God Calling

February 21 – Nothing Can Hurt
The way is plain.

You do not need to see far ahead. Just one step at a time with Me. The same light to guide you as the Hosts of Heaven know — the Son of Righteousness Himself.

Only self can cast a shadow on the way. Be more afraid of Spirit-unrest, of soul-disturbance, of any ruffling of the Spirit, than of earthquake or fire or any outside forces.

When you feel the absolute calm has been broken — away alone with Me until your heart sings, and all is strong and calm.

These are the only times when evil can find an entrance. The forces of the evil surround the city of man-soul, and are keenly alert for one such unguarded spot, through which an arrow can pierce and do havoc.

Remember all that you have to do is to keep calm and happy. God does the rest. No evil force can hinder My Power — only you yourself have power to do that. Think when all God’s mighty forces are arrayed to aid you — and your poor, puny self impedes their onward march.

“Take therefore no thought for the morrow…Sufficient
unto the day is the evil thereof.” Matthew 6:34


February 22 – You Must Trust
You must trust Me wholly. This lesson has to be learnt. You shall be helped, you shall be led, guided, continually. The children of Israel would long before have entered the Promised Land — only their doubts and fears continually drove them back into the wilderness. Remember always, doubts delay. Are you trusting all to Me or not?

I have told you how to live and you must do it. My children, I love you. Trust My tender Love. It will never fail you, but you must learn not to fail it.

Oh! could you see, you would understand. You have much to learn in turning out fear and being at peace. All your doubts arrest My work. You must not doubt. I died to save you from sin and doubt and worry. You must believe in Me absolutely.

“He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under
his wings shalt thou trust.” Psalm 91:4
It's really sad to see you giving up and mindlessly copy&pasting. He shall cover you in feathers, just after the tar is applied. :lol:
 
February 20 – Claim Your Rights
“In everything by prayer and supplication let your requests be made known unto God.”

But do not beg. Rather come just as a business manager bringing to the owner the needs, checks to be signed, etc., and knowing that to lay the matter before him means immediate supply.

I long to supply, but the asking — or the faith-assurance from you, is necessary, because to you that contact with Me is vital.

“If we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
And if we know that he hears us, whatever we ask, we know
that we have the petitions that we desired of him.” 1 John 5:14, 15
I used to think it was sort of silly and self absorbed to run through your list of needs with God. He knows what we need. Now I look at it differently. Asking Him for the things we need reminds us that we are reliant on Him to care for us.


I always thought it was foolish for people to ask God to do things for them even though they never do what God has asked of them..

They even pray begging for mercy and forgiveness as they are flipping him off and kneeling before a block of wood.


Seem a little risky......

I heard that God could get a little testy with hypocrites.
Then don't do it. Again I will tell you... you don't have beliefs, you have arguments against others having beliefs.



You are mistaken.

You profess belief without any understanding, without ever having sought verifiable proof of the truth that you profess to believe.

I believe in what I know, in what I have seen and heard with my own eyes and ears, in what I have perceived and understand in my own mind.

I am not arguing against others having belief I am showing where wrong and right and judgment lie so that others may have an opportunity to vindicate their belief and experience the fulfillment of their own hopes and dreams while they are still alive, to be worthy of eternal life and to stand in the presence of God.

You claim to believe in God, why would you object to being shown the errors that have built an impenetrable barrier between you and your God?

I know that you have never heard a single word from the living God in your entire life no matter how much you have been blubbering.

Has it never dawned on you that there is something within your adopted beliefs and in your chosen practices that might be amiss...something that you are saying or doing, or failing to say and do, that is offensive to God and has caused Him to hide his face from you?

Is that too hard for a believer to believe?
You do not know anything about my journey or how I came to my beliefs. I can see how God has worked in my life despite your beliefs about me. There is only one God. It does not matter what we call Him as long as we make the effort to know Him. He will find us. How we come to Him is of little importance.

You absolutely are arguing against me having my beliefs. You claimed my beliefs are without understanding. You claimed I have never heard a single word from God. You claimed I blubber. You claimed there is something wrong with my beliefs. You claimed I am offensive to God. These are not the words of a man who accepts the beliefs of another. These are the words of a man trying to get someone to reject his beliefs. So please don't pretend you are not here to argue against my beliefs. Because you are literally trying to force me to conform to your beliefs.

Do you think you speak for God when you tell me that He hides his face from me? What is wrong with you? Who does that? I'll tell you who does that... militant atheists who attack a rival religion, that's who. I have had several conversations with people of other faiths where we respected each other's beliefs, even though our beliefs were different. They don't behave like you do. We have very pleasant conversations where we both honor God. Growth filled communities should explore all sides of an issue to arrive at objective truth. Honest men can have honest differences of opinion without having to act like jerks or be attacked for expressing their beliefs.

I too believe in what I know, in what I have seen and heard with my own eyes and ears, in what I have perceived and understand in my own mind. Almost everything we know we accept on the authority of others. Anyone who rejected knowledge on the authority of others would have to go around knowing next to nothing his whole life.
He's right, you DO blubber. A lot. :lmao:
 
I died to save you from sin and doubt and worry. You must believe in Me absolutely.

Bunk
Why do you say that?

In my study of the occult we have to work out our own sins, over many incarnations.

The idea that Jesus died for our sins is just a Christian doctrine.
How exactly do you work out your own sins over many incarnations? And why can't you do that over one lifetime?

Maybe you don't understand what Jesus taught about that?
 
I died to save you from sin and doubt and worry. You must believe in Me absolutely.

Bunk
Why do you say that?

In my study of the occult we have to work out our own sins, over many incarnations.

The idea that Jesus died for our sins is just a Christian doctrine.
How exactly do you work out your own sins over many incarnations? And why can't you do that over one lifetime?

Actions have consequences, its called karma. Your future is shaped by your past actions, this goes on for many, many incarnations. Being judged on the actions of one lifetime would be a system with injustice built into it.

What if you die when you are a baby? you are an untried untested, unwritten slate. If you go to heaven you will always be inadequate compared with men of great experience.

Besides as far as I can see much of the human race still behave like savages, we have not completed our spiritual growth, but over many lives we might reach enlightenment and join the Buddha in a state of grace.
 
I died to save you from sin and doubt and worry. You must believe in Me absolutely.

Bunk
Why do you say that?

In my study of the occult we have to work out our own sins, over many incarnations.

The idea that Jesus died for our sins is just a Christian doctrine.
How exactly do you work out your own sins over many incarnations? And why can't you do that over one lifetime?

Actions have consequences, its called karma. Your future is shaped by your past actions, this goes on for many, many incarnations. Being judged on the actions of one lifetime would be a system with injustice built into it.

What if you die when you are a baby? you are an untried untested, unwritten slate. If you go to heaven you will always be inadequate compared with men of great experience.

Besides as far as I can see much of the human race still behave like savages, we have not completed our spiritual growth, but over many lives we might reach enlightenment and join the Buddha in a state of grace.
That didn't answer the fundamental question though, how does one actually get better just because he lives more than one life? What is it that he does that causes him to improve? If you tell me that then we can better understand if he can or can't do it in one lifetime, right?
 
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I died to save you from sin and doubt and worry. You must believe in Me absolutely.

Bunk
Why do you say that?

In my study of the occult we have to work out our own sins, over many incarnations.

The idea that Jesus died for our sins is just a Christian doctrine.
How exactly do you work out your own sins over many incarnations? And why can't you do that over one lifetime?

Maybe you don't understand what Jesus taught about that?
Jesus was wrong, like the rest of the bible. Pay attention to what Daj says.
 

In my study of the occult we have to work out our own sins, over many incarnations.

The idea that Jesus died for our sins is just a Christian doctrine.
How exactly do you work out your own sins over many incarnations? And why can't you do that over one lifetime?

Actions have consequences, its called karma. Your future is shaped by your past actions, this goes on for many, many incarnations. Being judged on the actions of one lifetime would be a system with injustice built into it.

What if you die when you are a baby? you are an untried untested, unwritten slate. If you go to heaven you will always be inadequate compared with men of great experience.

Besides as far as I can see much of the human race still behave like savages, we have not completed our spiritual growth, but over many lives we might reach enlightenment and join the Buddha in a state of grace.
That didn't answer the fundamental question though, how does one actually get better just because he lives more than one life? What is it that he does that causes him to improve? If you tell me that then we can better understand if he can or can't do it in one lifetime, right?

We may start out as innocent spirits incarnate for the first time, but during that life we may act selfishly or hurtfully because we are unevolved, therefore unable to empathise with others. But our actions that cause harm will have consequences. They will come back on us in the future and we will face harder experiences that will make us more aware of the feelings of others. This process is far too long to be concluded in one short life, and it may take as many as hundreds of lives, on this and other planets.
We are not the small human beings we seem to be, the bible itself says ' ye are Gods' . I believe we evolve spiritually to a higher state of being than the human race has yet reached. I once heard a spirit guide speaking through a trance medium say that we are like children at our present stage of evolution.
 
Why do you say that?

In my study of the occult we have to work out our own sins, over many incarnations.

The idea that Jesus died for our sins is just a Christian doctrine.
How exactly do you work out your own sins over many incarnations? And why can't you do that over one lifetime?

Actions have consequences, its called karma. Your future is shaped by your past actions, this goes on for many, many incarnations. Being judged on the actions of one lifetime would be a system with injustice built into it.

What if you die when you are a baby? you are an untried untested, unwritten slate. If you go to heaven you will always be inadequate compared with men of great experience.

Besides as far as I can see much of the human race still behave like savages, we have not completed our spiritual growth, but over many lives we might reach enlightenment and join the Buddha in a state of grace.
That didn't answer the fundamental question though, how does one actually get better just because he lives more than one life? What is it that he does that causes him to improve? If you tell me that then we can better understand if he can or can't do it in one lifetime, right?

We may start out as innocent spirits incarnate for the first time, but during that life we may act selfishly or hurtfully because we are unevolved, therefore unable to empathise with others. But our actions that cause harm will have consequences. They will come back on us in the future and we will face harder experiences that will make us more aware of the feelings of others. This process is far too long to be concluded in one short life, and it may take as many as hundreds of lives, on this and other planets.
We are not the small human beings we seem to be, the bible itself says ' ye are Gods' . I believe we evolve spiritually to a higher state of being than the human race has yet reached. I once heard a spirit guide speaking through a trance medium say that we are like children at our present stage of evolution.
I appreciate the theology of your beliefs but I am focusing on the mechanism for improvement right now. How exactly do the experiences the second or third or fourth time around make us more aware of the feelings of others if it didn't do it first time around? Are the consequences of failed behavior somehow different the second, third or fourth time around?
 
In my study of the occult we have to work out our own sins, over many incarnations.

The idea that Jesus died for our sins is just a Christian doctrine.
How exactly do you work out your own sins over many incarnations? And why can't you do that over one lifetime?

Actions have consequences, its called karma. Your future is shaped by your past actions, this goes on for many, many incarnations. Being judged on the actions of one lifetime would be a system with injustice built into it.

What if you die when you are a baby? you are an untried untested, unwritten slate. If you go to heaven you will always be inadequate compared with men of great experience.

Besides as far as I can see much of the human race still behave like savages, we have not completed our spiritual growth, but over many lives we might reach enlightenment and join the Buddha in a state of grace.
That didn't answer the fundamental question though, how does one actually get better just because he lives more than one life? What is it that he does that causes him to improve? If you tell me that then we can better understand if he can or can't do it in one lifetime, right?

We may start out as innocent spirits incarnate for the first time, but during that life we may act selfishly or hurtfully because we are unevolved, therefore unable to empathise with others. But our actions that cause harm will have consequences. They will come back on us in the future and we will face harder experiences that will make us more aware of the feelings of others. This process is far too long to be concluded in one short life, and it may take as many as hundreds of lives, on this and other planets.
We are not the small human beings we seem to be, the bible itself says ' ye are Gods' . I believe we evolve spiritually to a higher state of being than the human race has yet reached. I once heard a spirit guide speaking through a trance medium say that we are like children at our present stage of evolution.
I appreciate the theology of your beliefs but I am focusing on the mechanism for improvement right now. How exactly do the experiences the second or third or fourth time around make us more aware of the feelings of others if it didn't do it first time around? Are the consequences of failed behavior somehow different the second, third or fourth time around?

The occult theory is that every action must be accounted for, and we may accumulate karma that will be carried over into future incarnations. We may find ourselves in harder circumstances which may cause us to make more wrong actions that will also have consequences. The journey of the soul, learning by trial and error is a long one. Every debt must be settled by good actions.

In theory there are a race of beings we call angels that never incarnate and their job is to guide human evolution. They work behind the scenes and select our incarnation for us, the circumstances of which will be determined by our past karma. They are not concerned that the experiences they guide us to may be hard because they know that's the only way to purify our souls.

The process of our spiritual evolution goes on for as many lives as it takes, and until all our karma is settled.
 
How exactly do you work out your own sins over many incarnations? And why can't you do that over one lifetime?

Actions have consequences, its called karma. Your future is shaped by your past actions, this goes on for many, many incarnations. Being judged on the actions of one lifetime would be a system with injustice built into it.

What if you die when you are a baby? you are an untried untested, unwritten slate. If you go to heaven you will always be inadequate compared with men of great experience.

Besides as far as I can see much of the human race still behave like savages, we have not completed our spiritual growth, but over many lives we might reach enlightenment and join the Buddha in a state of grace.
That didn't answer the fundamental question though, how does one actually get better just because he lives more than one life? What is it that he does that causes him to improve? If you tell me that then we can better understand if he can or can't do it in one lifetime, right?

We may start out as innocent spirits incarnate for the first time, but during that life we may act selfishly or hurtfully because we are unevolved, therefore unable to empathise with others. But our actions that cause harm will have consequences. They will come back on us in the future and we will face harder experiences that will make us more aware of the feelings of others. This process is far too long to be concluded in one short life, and it may take as many as hundreds of lives, on this and other planets.
We are not the small human beings we seem to be, the bible itself says ' ye are Gods' . I believe we evolve spiritually to a higher state of being than the human race has yet reached. I once heard a spirit guide speaking through a trance medium say that we are like children at our present stage of evolution.
I appreciate the theology of your beliefs but I am focusing on the mechanism for improvement right now. How exactly do the experiences the second or third or fourth time around make us more aware of the feelings of others if it didn't do it first time around? Are the consequences of failed behavior somehow different the second, third or fourth time around?

The occult theory is that every action must be accounted for, and we may accumulate karma that will be carried over into future incarnations. We may find ourselves in harder circumstances which may cause us to make more wrong actions that will also have consequences. The journey of the soul, learning by trial and error is a long one. Every debt must be settled by good actions.

In theory there are a race of beings we call angels that never incarnate and their job is to guide human evolution. They work behind the scenes and select our incarnation for us, the circumstances of which will be determined by our past karma. They are not concerned that the experiences they guide us to may be hard because they know that's the only way to purify our souls.

The process of our spiritual evolution goes on for as many lives as it takes, and until all our karma is settled.
Right, so the exact same act the second time around will have more severe consequences? Can you give me an example?
 
Right, so the exact same act the second time around will have more severe consequences? Can you give me an example?

Not necessarily. The consequences depend on what is going to teach us the most. Everything is worked out by the angels of karma who direct us to circumstances that will serve the best purpose for our growth and development. It's not so much punishment as opportunity to change.
 
Right, so the exact same act the second time around will have more severe consequences? Can you give me an example?

Not necessarily. The consequences depend on what is going to teach us the most. Everything is worked out by the angels of karma who direct us to circumstances that will serve the best purpose for our growth and development. It's not so much punishment as opportunity to change.
Ok, so what happens when one experiences the consequences for his bad behavior/failed behavior/sins and rationalizes that it wasn't really his fault? How exactly will those consequences correct anything?
 
Right, so the exact same act the second time around will have more severe consequences? Can you give me an example?

Not necessarily. The consequences depend on what is going to teach us the most. Everything is worked out by the angels of karma who direct us to circumstances that will serve the best purpose for our growth and development. It's not so much punishment as opportunity to change.
Ok, so what happens when one experiences the consequences for his bad behavior/failed behavior/sins and rationalizes that it wasn't really his fault? How exactly will those consequences correct anything?

We ultimately do judge ourselves, but not in this world where the true state of our soul is obscured. In our ignorance. Here we are led by the angels of karma and we only get to make choices when after death we see the whole picture of what we have been and done.
 
Right, so the exact same act the second time around will have more severe consequences? Can you give me an example?

Not necessarily. The consequences depend on what is going to teach us the most. Everything is worked out by the angels of karma who direct us to circumstances that will serve the best purpose for our growth and development. It's not so much punishment as opportunity to change.
Ok, so what happens when one experiences the consequences for his bad behavior/failed behavior/sins and rationalizes that it wasn't really his fault? How exactly will those consequences correct anything?

We ultimately do judge ourselves, but not in this world where the true state of our soul is obscured. In our ignorance. Here we are led by the angels of karma and we only get to make choices when after death we see the whole picture of what we have been and done.
ok, but how does that help you in the next life exactly? You have already said that you don't remember anything from your previous lives, right? Are you telling me that you remember what happened between your previous lives.

Look, I'm not trying to be a jerk here or anything but it seems to me that there is a gap in how you are explaining the practical aspect of how re-incarnation actually makes one progress as human beings. It seems to me that your belief is the beatings will continue until the moral improves.
 
No I don't remember anything from between lives, because we use a brain to store memories during incarnations and most people cannot remember anything from before they were born. Although some say they can.

I have had experiences that may be indications of past lives, like I walked into the maritime museum when I was a boy, and saw Nelsons sword, and I felt a strong emotional surge like I recognised it. I am not saying I was Nelson but I thought I could have been a sailor in his fleet. Then another time I had a strong sense of belonging when I walked into a monastery.

Yes I think we will suffer through many lifetimes as we gradually spiritually develop and improve in character.
The main source of my view is the trance lectures of three famous mediums. Ursula Roberts, and Ivy Northage, and Grace Cook. They all taught reincarnation over many lifetimes of suffering and struggling.
I attended many lectures by them during the 1970s and that's mainly where I get my views.
 
I died to save you from sin and doubt and worry. You must believe in Me absolutely.

Bunk
Why do you say that?

In my study of the occult we have to work out our own sins, over many incarnations.

The idea that Jesus died for our sins is just a Christian doctrine.
Ok, so this is where we started from, right? What if I told you that you have oversimplified Christian doctrine and that Christian doctrine actually tells us how to work out our sins in this lifetime? What if I told you the basis and practice for working out your sins and how it ties to Christ paid for our sins? What if I were to explain it to you in everyday practical terms? What would you say to that? Would you say that was bunk? Or would you say, tell me more about this? Because I don't want to waste my time or your time arguing points like every other idiot on these boards does. I have no desire to convince you one way or another.
 

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