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Dr Grump said:Jillian/Fisherking/Jeff
So this god has a huge ego that needs satiating? And so only he/she can understand her/his true greatness? In the end game, what is the whole point of his/her existance? Or ours?
Dr Grump said:Jillian/Fisherking/Jeff
So this god has a huge ego that needs satiating? And so only he/she can understand her/his true greatness? In the end game, what is the whole point of his/her existance? Or ours?
5stringJeff said:You aren't listening. God is infinite; man is finite. Therefore, we ought to be in awe of God, for that reason alone. It's similar to the reason that we hold sports stars, or great actors/authors/leaders in esteem. It has nothing to do with God's ego.
As to the ability of a finite being to understand an infinite being, I don't know how much more clearly I can explain it.
What is the point of God's existence? Because God is an uncaused being, He doesn't have a purpose, per se, although He fills the role of causation of the existence of everything else in the universe.
And I've already commented on the purpose of our existence.
Fisherking said:I have been amazed by the number of people who now do not accept the bible as the Word of God.
It seems that more and more are starting to believe that the Bible is flawed with time and translations.
That it is the word of man.
Does anyone still believe that the Bible is truth anymore?
Is it so far fetched to think that man could have written the Bible while under devine insperation by the Spirit of our Heavenly Father?
I dont think its so far fetched.
Some statistics show that less than half adults under 30 believe that God never existed. I hope that is exagerated.
I believe America is falling farther away from God, we have started to fall asleep, while God is saying its time to wake up.
Speculation allows for any possible reason for life, to evolve into more morall; purer beings, to make life better for your offspring than it was for you, etc. There is always the possiblity that there is no reason for our existance, that our existance is an entirely random event.What is our reason for being here?
I believe in the possiblity of such a purpose, just as I believe in the possiblity of GodDo you believe God has a purpose for mankind?
Ah the joys of being agnostic, I don't know.If so, what do you think that purpose is?
Dr Grump said:I'm listening all right. I just don't buy it. It makes no logical sense to me. I think god has been invented to try and explain things that we cannot explain. As time goes on, most of these things are explained - except for the really big stuff like - why are we here? Nobody knows. God, and man's interpretation of such a being, attempts to explain it, but to no avail (IMO of course)... Nothing any Christian has said to me on these boards has gotten me any closer to understanding their POV in that the reasons for a god's existence. C'est la vie I guess...
jillian said:Perhaps the problem is the disconnect between religion, which is really nothing more than ritual designed to worship in a particular fashion, and spirituality. Religion gives a set of acceptable behaviors depending upon the religion one chooses to follow. If one asks questions and pursues the larger spiritual questions that arise from those behaviors, then perhaps we move closer to the answers. I don't think we get to figure out those things in this life, though.
dilloduck said:Do we get any hints, clues or anything ?? Can we buy vowels ?? :happy2:
:tng:
jillian said:Perhaps the problem is the disconnect between religion, which is really nothing more than ritual designed to worship in a particular fashion, and spirituality. Religion gives a set of acceptable behaviors depending upon the religion one chooses to follow. If one asks questions and pursues the larger spiritual questions that arise from those behaviors, then perhaps we move closer to the answers. I don't think we get to figure out those things in this life, though.
Dr Grump said:Possibly. I'm more into the "random event" theory... :teeth:
Dr Grump said:Possibly. I'm more into the "random event" theory... :teeth:
dilloduck said:To claim that trying to be a giver is not a purpose is hogwash.
dilloduck said:It would appear that you allow man to provide his own pupose but at the same time you discount him when he says "My purpose is to be charitable".
rtwngAvngr said:You don't accept charity as a purpose because of some word games.
Phaedrus said:Sorry to dredge things up, but it appears I've been away for awhile.
What are you trying to do when you give? That is your purpose, not the act of giving. People can be charitable for selfish reasons. Charity isn't a purpose, it's an action. To what end are you being charitable? That is your purpose.
It's the same thing as saying skate-boarding is your purpose. That simply isn't be the case, your purpose could infact be self-glorification, self-improvement or a myriad of other things. Your purpose is the reason, not the action you use to achieve it.
Yep, because Charity isn't a purpose. Man can choose anything that is a purpose as his purpose. To preempt your next question, a purpose is anything that is an end in itself. Actions aren't purposes, they are means to achieving a purpose.
Words mean things. When you use them improperly, I will correct you. I'm just as fallible as you in this sense, but you can't expect people to understand you when you're unclear. I take alot of stock in using the correct word.
dilloduck said:Really?---What appeals to you about the random event theory?
Phaedrus said:Yo, no offense intended, your choice. I truly respect it, and simply disagree with, as you said, the "semantics."
Phaedrus said:Regardless of the actual words he is using, I understand what he's getting at. I still disagree with his words, but his concept is fine. Sounding intelligent means nothing, sounding like a troll means something.
