Free Market Failures

[bedowin62]

"free market failures"

why is every thread here an excercise in left-wing stupidity?

can we talk on the failures of the Progressive agenda?


in year EIGHT of Progressive majority rule we have record levels of welfare and food stamps; and the lowest percentage of ABLE-BODIED, WORKING-AGE AMERICANS participating in the Labor Market in almost 40 years

 

[bedowin62]

Let me guess, you think I am a idiot with the same need to defend Bush that you have to defend Obama.

Wrong, I oppose the government no matter who is in charge.

But at least you admitted that the VA is a failure, got any other government agency that -you think is a success?

Absolutely not. I think you're an idiot for saying that because no one has ever called you a neoliberal the term is not in use and nothing says stupidity like nobody-ever-called-me-neoliberal-therefore-it-doesn't-exist.

I don't defend Obama. His policies are neoliberal.

I'm telling you point blank that the problems that the VA has are due to cuts that were made. I'm also telling you that you sitting on the sideline and thinking that you get a good guffaw while doing whatever you can to defund it makes you a chump.

You think I am an idiot because I said something I never said? How does that work, exactly?

You are the guy that pointed to the VA as a successful government agency when I asked for an example, now you are claiming that the fact that it isn't a success is because it didn't have enough money. You can't have it both ways, either it is successful, or it isn't. Since it, obviously, isn't, you were wrong to point to it as an example of success. Making excuses for your failure just makes you look pathetic.

the Left cant survive if they cant make excuses for their failures

and they always blame their failures on the very people they insist they are so much smarter and more savvy than.

idiots and hypocrites

 

[HelenaHandbag]

No, the one that is ignorant here is you. You are merely parroting right wing talking points. That has become painfully obvious.

The act of you calling others ignorant and merely parroting talking points is both ironically funny and tedious at the same time.

You can't manage to defend your arguments because you don't have one.

Tedious irony within tedious irony. At least you are good at that.

So...........you still got nothing.

I have the existence of every failed federal bureaucracy nd program that still exists, despite their wastefulness, incompetence, fraud and old school graft. Such would not happen in a real free market, as those entities would be forced out of business and, in the worst of cases, those running those operations might well be behind bars.

All government failure means to hardliner partisan progressives like you is that they just didn't have enough money and power. Just one more law, one more regulation, just another billion dollars here and there, and everything will be sunshine, love beads and lollipops!

 

[Disir]

The act of you calling others ignorant and merely parroting talking points is both ironically funny and tedious at the same time.


Tedious irony within tedious irony. At least you are good at that.

So...........you still got nothing.

I have the existence of every failed federal bureaucracy nd program that still exists, despite their wastefulness, incompetence, fraud and old school graft. Such would not happen in a real free market, as those entities would be forced out of business and, in the worst of cases, those running those operations might well be behind bars.

All government failure means to hardliner partisan progressives like you is that they just didn't have enough money and power. Just one more law, one more regulation, just another billion dollars here and there, and everything will be sunshine, love beads and lollipops!

You don't have a damn thing. I told you to bring me failed and you couldn't get off your ass to get that. You got nothing but rhetoric you right wing wanna be libertopian hack.

 

[bedowin62]

So...........you still got nothing.

I have the existence of every failed federal bureaucracy nd program that still exists, despite their wastefulness, incompetence, fraud and old school graft. Such would not happen in a real free market, as those entities would be forced out of business and, in the worst of cases, those running those operations might well be behind bars.

All government failure means to hardliner partisan progressives like you is that they just didn't have enough money and power. Just one more law, one more regulation, just another billion dollars here and there, and everything will be sunshine, love beads and lollipops!

You don't have a damn thing. I told you to bring me failed and you couldn't get off your ass to get that. You got nothing but rhetoric you right wing wanna be libertopian hack.

$17 trillion in debt

obama isnt responsible for all of that; but he's outspent Bush already leftard

and for what?
record profits on Wall Street?

libs are losers who lie to themselves

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So...........you still got nothing.

I have the existence of every failed federal bureaucracy nd program that still exists, despite their wastefulness, incompetence, fraud and old school graft. Such would not happen in a real free market, as those entities would be forced out of business and, in the worst of cases, those running those operations might well be behind bars.

All government failure means to hardliner partisan progressives like you is that they just didn't have enough money and power. Just one more law, one more regulation, just another billion dollars here and there, and everything will be sunshine, love beads and lollipops!

You don't have a damn thing. I told you to bring me failed and you couldn't get off your ass to get that. You got nothing but rhetoric you right wing wanna be libertopian hack.

I am still waiting for an example of one that isn't a failure. Until you come up with one I am sticking with my position that they have all failed.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

So...........you still got nothing.

I have the existence of every failed federal bureaucracy nd program that still exists, despite their wastefulness, incompetence, fraud and old school graft. Such would not happen in a real free market, as those entities would be forced out of business and, in the worst of cases, those running those operations might well be behind bars.

All government failure means to hardliner partisan progressives like you is that they just didn't have enough money and power. Just one more law, one more regulation, just another billion dollars here and there, and everything will be sunshine, love beads and lollipops!

You don't have a damn thing. I told you to bring me failed and you couldn't get off your ass to get that. You got nothing but rhetoric you right wing wanna be libertopian hack.

I did bring you failed: The Department of Education.

By any objective metric, the department is a failure.

SAT scores? Lower today than 1979.
Graduation rate? Lower today than 1979.
Literacy rate? Lower today than 1979.
Reading and math skills at all grade levels? Lower today than 1979.
Dropout rate? About the only thing higher than it was in 1979.

Despite all of that failure, blind statist hacks like you still whine that all we need to do is throw more money at education.

Then you have the nerve to moan and groan about free market failures.

 

[bedowin62]

So...........you still got nothing.

I have the existence of every failed federal bureaucracy nd program that still exists, despite their wastefulness, incompetence, fraud and old school graft. Such would not happen in a real free market, as those entities would be forced out of business and, in the worst of cases, those running those operations might well be behind bars.

All government failure means to hardliner partisan progressives like you is that they just didn't have enough money and power. Just one more law, one more regulation, just another billion dollars here and there, and everything will be sunshine, love beads and lollipops!

You don't have a damn thing. I told you to bring me failed and you couldn't get off your ass to get that. You got nothing but rhetoric you right wing wanna be libertopian hack.

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normal people have to understand when dealing with Left-wing nutjobs like Desir that thesse are self-deluding losers pretending record welfare and food stamps is "forward progress"

so they dont recognize their own failures

 

[boedicca]

"free market failures"

why is every thread here an excercise in left-wing stupidity?

can we talk on the failures of the Progressive agenda?


in year EIGHT of Progressive majority rule we have record levels of welfare and food stamps; and the lowest percentage of ABLE-BODIED, WORKING-AGE AMERICANS participating in the Labor Market in almost 40 years

It's there nature. The Progs always blame somebody else for their failures.

 

[Indeependent]

Sure it can.

The impossible task...Supply me with an example.
You can't because no Libertarian nation has ever existed.

Railroads in this country were largely built with private money.

The bottom line is that the closer a nation gets to laizzes faire capitalism, the better it does. The more if follows the policies you endorse, the worse it does.

Not to mention European and Asian slave labor.
Asians and Europeans were conned into immigrating to the US for a certain wage and working conditions and were lied to.
Just how stupid and/or racist are you?

 

[bedowin62]

The impossible task...Supply me with an example.
You can't because no Libertarian nation has ever existed.

Railroads in this country were largely built with private money.

The bottom line is that the closer a nation gets to laizzes faire capitalism, the better it does. The more if follows the policies you endorse, the worse it does.

Not to mention European and Asian slave labor.
Asians and Europeans were conned into immigrating to the US for a certain wage and working conditions and were lied to.
Just how stupid and/or racist are you?

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

poor babies
why not tear up the tracks and start over with union labor?

hwo would that work out leftard?

 

[Disir]

"free market failures"

why is every thread here an excercise in left-wing stupidity?

can we talk on the failures of the Progressive agenda?


in year EIGHT of Progressive majority rule we have record levels of welfare and food stamps; and the lowest percentage of ABLE-BODIED, WORKING-AGE AMERICANS participating in the Labor Market in almost 40 years

It's there nature. The Progs always blame somebody else for their failures.

Whoops.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Ooo. A typo of a homonym.

Wow, you really got her there!

 

[Disir]

I have the existence of every failed federal bureaucracy nd program that still exists, despite their wastefulness, incompetence, fraud and old school graft. Such would not happen in a real free market, as those entities would be forced out of business and, in the worst of cases, those running those operations might well be behind bars.

All government failure means to hardliner partisan progressives like you is that they just didn't have enough money and power. Just one more law, one more regulation, just another billion dollars here and there, and everything will be sunshine, love beads and lollipops!

You don't have a damn thing. I told you to bring me failed and you couldn't get off your ass to get that. You got nothing but rhetoric you right wing wanna be libertopian hack.

I did bring you failed: The Department of Education.

By any objective metric, the department is a failure.

SAT scores? Lower today than 1979.
Graduation rate? Lower today than 1979.
Literacy rate? Lower today than 1979.
Reading and math skills at all grade levels? Lower today than 1979.
Dropout rate? About the only thing higher than it was in 1979.

Despite all of that failure, blind statist hacks like you still whine that all we need to do is throw more money at education.

Then you have the nerve to moan and groan about free market failures.

Where did it fail again? You'll need to back that up AND you will need to recognize the state's responsibility.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

You don't have a damn thing. I told you to bring me failed and you couldn't get off your ass to get that. You got nothing but rhetoric you right wing wanna be libertopian hack.

I did bring you failed: The Department of Education.

By any objective metric, the department is a failure.

SAT scores? Lower today than 1979.
Graduation rate? Lower today than 1979.
Literacy rate? Lower today than 1979.
Reading and math skills at all grade levels? Lower today than 1979.
Dropout rate? About the only thing higher than it was in 1979.

Despite all of that failure, blind statist hacks like you still whine that all we need to do is throw more money at education.

Then you have the nerve to moan and groan about free market failures.

Where did it fail again? You'll need to back that up AND you will need to recognize the state's responsibility.

There you have it: Failure is not failure, if you can pass the buck.

Classic.

 

[Disir]

Let me guess, you think I am a idiot with the same need to defend Bush that you have to defend Obama.

Wrong, I oppose the government no matter who is in charge.

But at least you admitted that the VA is a failure, got any other government agency that -you think is a success?

Absolutely not. I think you're an idiot for saying that because no one has ever called you a neoliberal the term is not in use and nothing says stupidity like nobody-ever-called-me-neoliberal-therefore-it-doesn't-exist.

I don't defend Obama. His policies are neoliberal.

I'm telling you point blank that the problems that the VA has are due to cuts that were made. I'm also telling you that you sitting on the sideline and thinking that you get a good guffaw while doing whatever you can to defund it makes you a chump.

You think I am an idiot because I said something I never said? How does that work, exactly?

You are the guy that pointed to the VA as a successful government agency when I asked for an example, now you are claiming that the fact that it isn't a success is because it didn't have enough money. You can't have it both ways, either it is successful, or it isn't. Since it, obviously, isn't, you were wrong to point to it as an example of success. Making excuses for your failure just makes you look pathetic.

Right here:

I am not the idiot that argued that European Socialism, aka neoliberalism, supports free markets, am I?

In the 1960s, usage of the term "neoliberal" heavily declined. When the term was reintroduced in the 1980s in connection with Augusto Pinochet’s economic reforms in Chile, the usage of the term had shifted. It had not only become a term with negative connotations employed principally by critics of market reform, but it also had shifted in meaning from a moderate form of liberalism to a more radical and laissez-faire capitalist set of ideas. Scholars now tended to associate it with the theories of economists Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman.[5] Once the new meaning of neoliberalism was established as a common usage among Spanish-speaking scholars, it diffused directly into the English-language study of political economy.[6] The term neoliberal is now used mainly by those who are critical of legislative initiatives that push for free trade, deregulation, enhanced privatization, and an overall reduction in government control of the economy.[7]
Neoliberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have been pushing for all of those things for years, no one has ever called me a neoliberal. In fact, they usually call me a crazy right wing conservative.

Want to try again?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/356454-free-market-failures-2.html#post9161190

Sure I can. It worked up until the major cuts (still does depending on the location)and the let's shift to faux privatization dirtbags rolled in. It has built in components that force accountability.

But, I'm sitting here watching your privatized social services and mental health care fail in a major way.

 

[bedowin62]

You don't have a damn thing. I told you to bring me failed and you couldn't get off your ass to get that. You got nothing but rhetoric you right wing wanna be libertopian hack.

I did bring you failed: The Department of Education.

By any objective metric, the department is a failure.

SAT scores? Lower today than 1979.
Graduation rate? Lower today than 1979.
Literacy rate? Lower today than 1979.
Reading and math skills at all grade levels? Lower today than 1979.
Dropout rate? About the only thing higher than it was in 1979.

Despite all of that failure, blind statist hacks like you still whine that all we need to do is throw more money at education.

Then you have the nerve to moan and groan about free market failures.

Where did it fail again? You'll need to back that up AND you will need to recognize the state's responsibility.

responsibility?

leftardz are "responsible" up to the point when they fail; then it's somebody else's fault

idiots n hypocrites

 

[bedowin62]

Absolutely not. I think you're an idiot for saying that because no one has ever called you a neoliberal the term is not in use and nothing says stupidity like nobody-ever-called-me-neoliberal-therefore-it-doesn't-exist.

I don't defend Obama. His policies are neoliberal.

I'm telling you point blank that the problems that the VA has are due to cuts that were made. I'm also telling you that you sitting on the sideline and thinking that you get a good guffaw while doing whatever you can to defund it makes you a chump.

You think I am an idiot because I said something I never said? How does that work, exactly?

You are the guy that pointed to the VA as a successful government agency when I asked for an example, now you are claiming that the fact that it isn't a success is because it didn't have enough money. You can't have it both ways, either it is successful, or it isn't. Since it, obviously, isn't, you were wrong to point to it as an example of success. Making excuses for your failure just makes you look pathetic.

Right here:

In the 1960s, usage of the term "neoliberal" heavily declined. When the term was reintroduced in the 1980s in connection with Augusto Pinochet’s economic reforms in Chile, the usage of the term had shifted. It had not only become a term with negative connotations employed principally by critics of market reform, but it also had shifted in meaning from a moderate form of liberalism to a more radical and laissez-faire capitalist set of ideas. Scholars now tended to associate it with the theories of economists Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman.[5] Once the new meaning of neoliberalism was established as a common usage among Spanish-speaking scholars, it diffused directly into the English-language study of political economy.[6] The term neoliberal is now used mainly by those who are critical of legislative initiatives that push for free trade, deregulation, enhanced privatization, and an overall reduction in government control of the economy.[7]
Neoliberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have been pushing for all of those things for years, no one has ever called me a neoliberal. In fact, they usually call me a crazy right wing conservative.

Want to try again?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/356454-free-market-failures-2.html#post9161190

Sure I can. It worked up until the major cuts (still does depending on the location)and the let's shift to faux privatization dirtbags rolled in. It has built in components that force accountability.

But, I'm sitting here watching your privatized social services and mental health care fail in a major way.

YAWN
always amazing how the Left can shift the blame for their own failures onto others

 

[Disir]

I did bring you failed: The Department of Education.

By any objective metric, the department is a failure.

SAT scores? Lower today than 1979.
Graduation rate? Lower today than 1979.
Literacy rate? Lower today than 1979.
Reading and math skills at all grade levels? Lower today than 1979.
Dropout rate? About the only thing higher than it was in 1979.

Despite all of that failure, blind statist hacks like you still whine that all we need to do is throw more money at education.

Then you have the nerve to moan and groan about free market failures.

Where did it fail again? You'll need to back that up AND you will need to recognize the state's responsibility.

There you have it: Failure is not failure, if you can pass the buck.

Classic.

Back it up.

 

[bedowin62]

Where did it fail again? You'll need to back that up AND you will need to recognize the state's responsibility.

There you have it: Failure is not failure, if you can pass the buck.

Classic.

Back it up.

record welfare and food stamps

your ilk calls it "forward progress'

ur a joke