Free George Zimmerman

[KissMy]

Interesting post under the article linked to in the OP.

8 facts that support Zimmerman's claim of lawful self defense:

Fact 1:
Zimmerman had a broken nose supporting his claim that Trayvon punched him in the face.

Fact 2:

Zimmerman had wet grass stains on the back of his jacket supporting his claim that Trayvon knocked him on his back.

Fact 3:
Zimmerman had open cuts on the back of his head supporting his claim that Trayvon smashed the back of his head repeatedly on the ground.

Fact 4:
A black resident of the community testified that the man lying on the
ground being hit [and screaming for help] was wearing a red jacket. Zimmerman was
the person wearing the red jacket.

Fact 5:
When the lead detective played the recorded screams back to Trayvon's
father, the father emphatically stated that the person screaming was not
his son. (Note: Later the father denied telling the detective that. But why would the detective have lied?)

Fact 6:
Zimmerman was interrogated for five hours without legal
representation. The next day the investigators went back to the housing
complex with Zimmerman and Zimmerman reenacted in detail the events of
the previous evening. Neither during 5 hour police interrogation, or the
next day reenactment of the event, did Zimmerman contradict his
original testimony.

Fact 7:
[Prior to the shooting]
Zimmerman called the police and gave them the address where they should
meet him. Needless to say, if Zimmerman was planning to shoot Trayvon
it would have been absurd for him to call the police prior to the shooting.

Fact 8:
Though Zimmerman at one time weighed 250 pounds, at the time of the shooting
he weighed only 170 pounds. His height was five foot eight inches. According
to police reports,Trayvon was 160 pounds and 6 foot in height. (His parents say he was 6 foot 3 inches in height.)

Conclusion:

Zimmerman found himself confronted by a 6 foot male (perhaps 6'3") weighing 160 pounds. Trayvon was not the small child that the media deceitfully attempts to portray him.

Given the latter 8 facts, they was no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman.
However, there was probable cause to arrest Trayvon for first degree
assault, if he had survived the shooting.

Issue 1:

If it is shown that Trayvon had massive gun powder residue deposited on his body, that will prove that Zimmerman fired his weapon at less than one foot distance from Trayvon.

Issue 2:

If it is shown that the bullet's trajectory was vertical, rather than horizontal, that would demonstrate that Zimmerman was on the ground when he shot Trayvon.

The latter two issues can be readily determined (if they haven't been determined already).

A non-arguable reality:

Zimmerman had a broken nose and cuts on the back of his head. These injuries were obviously incurred prior to shooting Trayvon. Therefore, we know Trayvon physically assaulted Zimmerman.

Given Zimmerman's wounds, and the wet grass stains on the back of his jacket, Trayvon's physical assault on Zimmerman is not up for dispute.

The central question is:

Did Trayvon assault Zimmerman in self defense?

Answer:
If Trayvon [doubled back] and punched Zimmerman in the nose, got on top of him, and slammed his head repeatedly into the ground, Trayvon was guilty of criminal assault.

Proof that Trayvon did in fact double back and physically assault Zimmerman:

Zimmerman told the police dispatcher that Trayvon had sprinted away from him. Shortly thereafter, Zimmerman walked a [short distance] from his car to get the exact street address to give to the police dispatcher.

If Trayvon had not doubled back, the fight would have occurred at a location far removed from where it occurred.

All the documented facts support Zimmerman's claim that Trayvon unlawfully assaulted him with the intent of causing death or serious bodily injury.

Under such circumstances, the application of deadly force is legally justified.

 

[Rocko]

Lets let the justice system take it's course. We will know more as the trial develops. There is no need to speculate. The only thing I hope for is justice.

 

[Ariux]

All any attorney has to do is play the video of obama putting his worthless 2 cents in and it's a mistrial.

You don't understand the N!gg3r Rules.

Consider, if blacks are 10 times more likely to commit crime X, but are only 2 time times more likely to be arrested, then it means that blacks are getting away with crime a lot more often than whites. Yet, the position the government and the media is that blacks are 2 times more likely to be arrested, and therefor the police are Discriminating against blacks.

Same with a jury. 19 out of 20 blacks are racist pieces-of-shit, meaning without discrimination, 19 of 20 blacks would be kept off of the jury. But, the judge is going to block efforts to remove many of the racist blacks (just like the police don't catch a lot of black criminals), and even though blacks are still being let on the jury, where similarly racist whites wouldn't be allowed, the media will still report that blacks are unfairly being kept off of the jury.

In essence, we generally ignore what blacks are, and pretend that they're decent people. So, it doesn't matter what Obama said.

On the plus side, it only takes one good person, with backbone, on a jury to prevent a wrongful conviction.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Alan Dershowitz, the Harvard professor known for decades as the great liberal, says the affidavit presented to the judge will not substantiate continuing with a charge of murder in the 2nd. He says it is an unethical and immoral document, aimed at forcing GZ to accept a plea to voluntary manslaughter. On "Hardball" of all places.

 

[earlycuyler]

As the shooting was not near the Defendant's vehicle, how does anyone know he didn't; his girlfriend reports he was hiding behind a tree.

That is true, I make that speculation based om my past experience as a 17 year old boy and the stupid things they do. Sadly, Travon's lesson cost him his life. Same for Zimmerman.

Zimmerman isn't facing the death penalty.

No, but he is dead nonetheless. Even before his trial, he will be confined to a jail cell unless he makes bail. If he is found guilty, he will go to prison. He will be known as the racist white guy who gunned down a sweet black kid on one side, or the red blooded American guy who only defended him self. Lots of employment opportunity's will be closed off to him because he may be a convicted felon, or because he is to big a liability. Not that I encourage it or anything, but I would not be surprised if he attempted suicide in the hear future.

 

[Peach]

Lets let the justice system take it's course. We will know more as the trial develops. There is no need to speculate. The only thing I hope for is justice.

The state filed a probable cause affidavit, it moves forward. The defense can move to dismiss of course once the Information is filed.

Prosecutors: George Zimmerman profiled Trayvon Martin | News - Home

 

[JakeStarkey]

Lets let the justice system take it's course. We will know more as the trial develops. There is no need to speculate. The only thing I hope for is justice.

The state filed a probable cause affidavit, it moves forward. The defense can move to dismiss of course once the Information is filed.

Prosecutors: George Zimmerman profiled Trayvon Martin | News - Home

Alan Dershowitz, the Harvard professor known for decades as the great liberal, says the affidavit presented to the judge will not substantiate continuing with a charge of murder in the 2nd. He says it is an unethical and immoral document, aimed at forcing GZ to accept a plea to voluntary manslaughter. On "Hardball" of all places.

 

[Peach]

Lets let the justice system take it's course. We will know more as the trial develops. There is no need to speculate. The only thing I hope for is justice.

The state filed a probable cause affidavit, it moves forward. The defense can move to dismiss of course once the Information is filed.

Prosecutors: George Zimmerman profiled Trayvon Martin | News - Home

Alan Dershowitz, the Harvard professor known for decades as the great liberal, says the affidavit presented to the judge will not substantiate continuing with a charge of murder in the 2nd. He says it is an unethical and immoral document, aimed at forcing GZ to accept a plea to voluntary manslaughter. On "Hardball" of all places.

Dershowitz has spoken out of turn in the past.

 

[PredFan]

Look at the wing nut extremists on the far right weep.

Crocodile tears!

You still have yet to explain what we are supposed to be weeping about.

 

[PredFan]

Lets let the justice system take it's course. We will know more as the trial develops. There is no need to speculate. The only thing I hope for is justice.

There are a few here who cannot grasp the concept that they weren't there and that they don't know everything that happened.

 

[jillian]

Lets let the justice system take it's course. We will know more as the trial develops. There is no need to speculate. The only thing I hope for is justice.

Exactly.

I'm not quite sure why the racists are so vested in there not being a trial.

 

[PredFan]

Alan Dershowitz, the Harvard professor known for decades as the great liberal, says the affidavit presented to the judge will not substantiate continuing with a charge of murder in the 2nd. He says it is an unethical and immoral document, aimed at forcing GZ to accept a plea to voluntary manslaughter. On "Hardball" of all places.

Therein lies the problem. He's about as trust worthy as Bernie Madeoff.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Alan Dershowitz, the Harvard professor known for decades as the great liberal, says the affidavit presented to the judge will not substantiate continuing with a charge of murder in the 2nd. He says it is an unethical and immoral document, aimed at forcing GZ to accept a plea to voluntary manslaughter. On "Hardball" of all places.

 

[Peach]

Lets let the justice system take it's course. We will know more as the trial develops. There is no need to speculate. The only thing I hope for is justice.

Exactly.

I'm not quite sure why the racists are so vested in there not being a trial.

It could be dismissed prior to trial, pled down, who knows?

 

[PredFan]

Lets let the justice system take it's course. We will know more as the trial develops. There is no need to speculate. The only thing I hope for is justice.

Exactly.

I'm not quite sure why the racists are so vested in there not being a trial.

Well, the racists wanted him arrested without even knowing if there was a crime.

 

[jgbkab]

You don't understand the N!gg3r Rules.

Consider, if blacks are 10 times more likely to commit crime X, but are only 2 time times more likely to be arrested, then it means that blacks are getting away with crime a lot more often than whites. Yet, the position the government and the media is that blacks are 2 times more likely to be arrested, and therefor the police are Discriminating against blacks.

You dumb ass, you act as if a criminal only commits one crime and then gets arrested.

 

[zzzz]

With all the supposedly eyewitness testimony being contradictory and if the evidence shows injuries and grass on Zim's back I can see reasonable doubt and that's all it takes for acquittal.

Reasonable doubt of what? What makes you think the prosecution is going to deny that a physical altercation took place? All the stuff about Zimmerman having grass on his back and having minor injuries is STILL 100% consistent with a Zimmerman-aggressor scenario.

Second degree murder cases often involve a death that allegedly occurred because of a heat of passion or act that was so dangerous is warrants a criminal action be brought against the Defendant. The classic example is the spouse who finds their partner having an affair with another person and immediately acts to kill either the partner or the partner's lover. In order to convict a defendant in Florida of Second-degree murder, the State of Florida must prove the following three elements beyond a reasonable doubt:
The victim is dead;
The death was caused by the criminal act of the defendant;
There was an unlawful killing of the victim by an act imminently dangerous to another and demonstrating a depraved mind without regard for human life.
Understanding a second degree murder can be more confusing than the more serious first degree murder. The "criminal act" reference in the statute must be a single event or series of related actions arising from and performed pursuant to a single design or purpose of committing the murder or creating the dangerous condition that led to the death.
...

Second Degree Murder - Law Firm Arnold Law Firm, LLC Attorneys Jacksonville, Florida

 

[Rinata]

Weeping because the prosecutor weighed the evidence and then charged Zimmerman?.

And what evidence was that?

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Prosecutors contend George Zimmerman provoked confrontation with Trayvon Martin

George Zimmerman pursued Florida teenager Trayvon Martin as he tried to run home and provoked a confrontation before shooting Martin in the chest during a struggle, prosecutors contended in court documents made public Thursday. In the two-page affidavit, which The Orlando Sentinel said it had obtained before it was filed with the court, prosecutors said Zimmerman "confronted Martin and a struggle ensued." Zimmerman has claimed he shot in self-defense Feb. 26 in Sanford after Martin knocked him to the ground and began beating him about the face.

Martin "was on his way back to the townhouse where he was living when he was profiled by George Zimmerman," the affidavit says. "Martin was unarmed and was not committing a crime."

Zimmerman called police for advice because he thought Martin was suspicious, the affidavit says. He was told to wait for officers to arrive, and when the police dispatcher repeated his instructions for Zimmerman to stop, Zimmerman disregarded him, it says.

The allegations appear in a probable cause affidavit prepared in support of a second-degree murder charge against Zimmerman.

Zimmerman called police for advice because he thought Martin was suspicious, the affidavit says. He was told to wait for officers to arrive, and when the police dispatcher repeated his instructions for Zimmerman to stop, Zimmerman disregarded him, it says.

During this time, the affidavit says, "Martin was on the phone with a friend and described to her what was happening. The witness advised that Martin was scared because he was being followed through the complex by an unknown male and didn't know why."

When Martin tried to run home, "Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and followed Martin," it says.

"Zimmerman confronted Martin and a struggle ensued," it says.

U.S. News - Prosecutors contend George Zimmerman provoked confrontation with Trayvon Martin

 

[Rinata]

It was very brave of Angela Correy to file these charges and put her own career on the line. I hope, although I have my doubts, that the trial will be fair.

Angela Correy is a pandering coward. She did the Politically Correct thing, rather than the Correct thing. She's an elected official and doing the Correct thing would seriously harm her re-election changes.

Now, it's up to a jury to set Zimmerman free. And, they will, if the judge allows the Defense to keep biased people off of the jury.

You are an idiot racist. Plain and simple.

 

[PredFan]

Weeping because the prosecutor weighed the evidence and then charged Zimmerman?.

And what evidence was that?

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Prosecutors contend George Zimmerman provoked confrontation with Trayvon Martin

George Zimmerman pursued Florida teenager Trayvon Martin as he tried to run home and provoked a confrontation before shooting Martin in the chest during a struggle, prosecutors contended in court documents made public Thursday. In the two-page affidavit, which The Orlando Sentinel said it had obtained before it was filed with the court, prosecutors said Zimmerman "confronted Martin and a struggle ensued." Zimmerman has claimed he shot in self-defense Feb. 26 in Sanford after Martin knocked him to the ground and began beating him about the face.

Martin "was on his way back to the townhouse where he was living when he was profiled by George Zimmerman," the affidavit says. "Martin was unarmed and was not committing a crime."

Zimmerman called police for advice because he thought Martin was suspicious, the affidavit says. He was told to wait for officers to arrive, and when the police dispatcher repeated his instructions for Zimmerman to stop, Zimmerman disregarded him, it says.

The allegations appear in a probable cause affidavit prepared in support of a second-degree murder charge against Zimmerman.

Zimmerman called police for advice because he thought Martin was suspicious, the affidavit says. He was told to wait for officers to arrive, and when the police dispatcher repeated his instructions for Zimmerman to stop, Zimmerman disregarded him, it says.

During this time, the affidavit says, "Martin was on the phone with a friend and described to her what was happening. The witness advised that Martin was scared because he was being followed through the complex by an unknown male and didn't know why."

When Martin tried to run home, "Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and followed Martin," it says.

"Zimmerman confronted Martin and a struggle ensued," it says.

U.S. News - Prosecutors contend George Zimmerman provoked confrontation with Trayvon Martin

It's an affadavit. It still has to be proven in court, in front of a jury.