eflatminor
Classical Liberal
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It just puts the problem off for a bit
Making it all the much worst when the shit does hit the fan.
$20 trillion, here we come!
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It just puts the problem off for a bit
I was pointing out the compromise. I'm not the one screaming about taxes going up. I would have preferred the payroll tax holiday not expire for another year, but that is what compromise is about. Everyone either gets a little of what they like, a little of what they hate or both.
Which would have helped to weaken Social Security even more
No it wouldn't. The money from the payroll tax holiday wasn't actually taken from SS, but from the General Fund. It wasn't "hurting" SS.
You guys need to get on the same page with the payroll tax holiday. Some of your RW friends are screaming about the middle class tax increase...of course those are the people with the most severe cases of ODS.
I'll say this over and over again. The President said (nearly 1300 times during his campaigns) that "No one, making under $250,000 will see their taxes rise one penny".
Every American that is now employed will see their taxes go up. PERIOD. END OF STORY.
Now, who is the liar?
See, that's where the liberals come out and try to make excuse after excuse, or example after example, doing their best to show everyone that "their boy" didn't lie.
Here's a news flash for you "true believers". Your guy is a liar and a thief.
Get used to it. We have 4 more years of his lies and thievery to go through.....
When caught in a gross exaggeration, comparing 10 years of tax increases to 2 months of spending cuts, the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood deny the truth and double down on the lie.Again pay attention to the technique of telling just enough truth but leaving out the critical info in order to deceive!So, $620 billion in tax increases (supposedly) in exchange for a promise of $15 billion in "cuts", a 41:1 ratio of taxes to cuts.
The cuts never come. They didn't come when Reagan was promised $3 in cuts for every $1 in tax hikes. The cuts didn't come when Bush I was promised $2 in cuts for every $1 in tax hikes.
Nobody is cutting shit.
The House is out of it's frickin' mind if they vote for this.
The $ 630 billion in tax increases is over 10 years, while the $15 billion in spending cuts is to cover the 2 month delay in sequestration!!!!!!!!
Lies like that do not happen by accident, they are premeditated. They are crafted to present a half-truth in the most deceptive way possible. Now even after the lie is exposed, the poster will continue to trust their source of this premeditated deception! The poster is a perfect example of the 'Misinformation Voter" the GOP depends on.
Bullshit. This is nothing more than than the same old game played for decades: tax hikes now in exchange for cuts later....cuts that NEVER come.
When caught in a gross exaggeration, comparing 10 years of tax increases to 2 months of spending cuts, the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood deny the truth and double down on the lie.Again pay attention to the technique of telling just enough truth but leaving out the critical info in order to deceive!
The $ 630 billion in tax increases is over 10 years, while the $15 billion in spending cuts is to cover the 2 month delay in sequestration!!!!!!!!
Lies like that do not happen by accident, they are premeditated. They are crafted to present a half-truth in the most deceptive way possible. Now even after the lie is exposed, the poster will continue to trust their source of this premeditated deception! The poster is a perfect example of the 'Misinformation Voter" the GOP depends on.
Bullshit. This is nothing more than than the same old game played for decades: tax hikes now in exchange for cuts later....cuts that NEVER come.
Your fiscal cliff deal cheat sheet
The sequester will be delayed for two months. Half of the delay will be offset by discretionary cuts, split between defense and non-defense. The other half will be offset by revenue raised by the voluntary transfer of traditional IRAs to Roth IRAs, which would tax retirement savings when theyre moved over.
Just as many times as you repeat your bullshit!When caught in a gross exaggeration, comparing 10 years of tax increases to 2 months of spending cuts, the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood deny the truth and double down on the lie.Bullshit. This is nothing more than than the same old game played for decades: tax hikes now in exchange for cuts later....cuts that NEVER come.
Your fiscal cliff deal cheat sheet
— The sequester will be delayed for two months. Half of the delay will be offset by discretionary cuts, split between defense and non-defense. The other half will be offset by revenue raised by the voluntary transfer of traditional IRAs to Roth IRAs, which would tax retirement savings when they’re moved over.
Gross exaggeration my ass. Just how many times do you think we'll fall for this shit? More taxes now, spending "cuts" later. Christ they aren't even cuts, merely slight reductions in the planned rate of increased spending. There will be no cuts. That's not what Washington does. It spends, whether we have the money or not.
Just as many times as you repeat your bullshit!When caught in a gross exaggeration, comparing 10 years of tax increases to 2 months of spending cuts, the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood deny the truth and double down on the lie.
Your fiscal cliff deal cheat sheet
The sequester will be delayed for two months. Half of the delay will be offset by discretionary cuts, split between defense and non-defense. The other half will be offset by revenue raised by the voluntary transfer of traditional IRAs to Roth IRAs, which would tax retirement savings when theyre moved over.
Gross exaggeration my ass. Just how many times do you think we'll fall for this shit? More taxes now, spending "cuts" later. Christ they aren't even cuts, merely slight reductions in the planned rate of increased spending. There will be no cuts. That's not what Washington does. It spends, whether we have the money or not.
The spending cuts are already in place, that's what the sequester is, spending cuts! In order to delay the sequestered spending cuts, equivalent spending cut offsets had to be found to cover the 2 month delay. If Congress can't agree on more directed spending cuts, by law the across the board sequestered spending cuts take effect.
That is why it is so obviously dishonest to count only the 2 month delay offset spending cuts, without the sequestered spending cuts, as the only spending cuts involved in the deal. But you couldn't be part of the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood if you weren't dishonest!!!
Again, caught in an exaggeration so gross as to be a lie, the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhoos simply lies some more and tries to divert. The out of context quote, in context, means the undirected across the board sequestration spending cuts will be replaced with directed SPENDING CUTS!!!!!!Just as many times as you repeat your bullshit!Gross exaggeration my ass. Just how many times do you think we'll fall for this shit? More taxes now, spending "cuts" later. Christ they aren't even cuts, merely slight reductions in the planned rate of increased spending. There will be no cuts. That's not what Washington does. It spends, whether we have the money or not.
The spending cuts are already in place, that's what the sequester is, spending cuts! In order to delay the sequestered spending cuts, equivalent spending cut offsets had to be found to cover the 2 month delay. If Congress can't agree on more directed spending cuts, by law the across the board sequestered spending cuts take effect.
That is why it is so obviously dishonest to count only the 2 month delay offset spending cuts, without the sequestered spending cuts, as the only spending cuts involved in the deal. But you couldn't be part of the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood if you weren't dishonest!!!
Keeping in mind that Obama said the sequestration "will not happen" and given the history of promised "cuts" that never actually hit the books, I call bullshit. We will spend more this year than we did last year. Same the year after that. Good grief, just look at the budget Obama proposed:
When we actually CUT spending, you let us know...
As usual, you have nothing to contribute!HA!...Look at edthe¢himp making excuses for the big fat pork-a-thon disguised as a solution to the fecal cliff!
What a fucking rube!
...spending cuts will be replaced with directed SPENDING CUTS
So, $620 billion in tax increases (supposedly) in exchange for a promise of $15 billion in "cuts", a 41:1 ratio of taxes to cuts.
The cuts never come. They didn't come when Reagan was promised $3 in cuts for every $1 in tax hikes. The cuts didn't come when Bush I was promised $2 in cuts for every $1 in tax hikes.
Nobody is cutting shit.
The House is out of it's frickin' mind if they vote for this.
Again, the sequestered spending cuts are already enacted by already passed and signed law. If the GOP House does not approve of the new directed spending cuts and do nothing the sequestered spending cuts will be enforced....spending cuts will be replaced with directed SPENDING CUTS
Sure they will, whatever you say...
So, $620 billion in tax increases (supposedly) in exchange for a promise of $15 billion in "cuts", a 41:1 ratio of taxes to cuts.
The cuts never come. They didn't come when Reagan was promised $3 in cuts for every $1 in tax hikes. The cuts didn't come when Bush I was promised $2 in cuts for every $1 in tax hikes.
Nobody is cutting shit.
The House is out of it's frickin' mind if they vote for this.Again, the sequestered spending cuts are already enacted by already passed and signed law. If the GOP House does not approve of the new directed spending cuts and do nothing the sequestered spending cuts will be enforced....spending cuts will be replaced with directed SPENDING CUTS
Sure they will, whatever you say...
No matter how you try to spin it, it was a lie for YOU to claim that only $15 billion in spending cuts are the total of spending cuts involved in the deal.
BTW, the spending cuts under St Ronnie were nixed by REAGAN himself because he would not allow cuts to his Star Wars pork barrel military spending, and if spending cuts are nixed now it will be because the GOP will not give up its pork filled military spending slush fund!
Repeating your lie will not make it true!Again, the sequestered spending cuts are already enacted by already passed and signed law. If the GOP House does not approve of the new directed spending cuts and do nothing the sequestered spending cuts will be enforced.So, $620 billion in tax increases (supposedly) in exchange for a promise of $15 billion in "cuts", a 41:1 ratio of taxes to cuts.
The cuts never come. They didn't come when Reagan was promised $3 in cuts for every $1 in tax hikes. The cuts didn't come when Bush I was promised $2 in cuts for every $1 in tax hikes.
Nobody is cutting shit.
The House is out of it's frickin' mind if they vote for this.
When we actually cut spending, you let us know.
Repeating your lie will not make it true!Again, the sequestered spending cuts are already enacted by already passed and signed law. If the GOP House does not approve of the new directed spending cuts and do nothing the sequestered spending cuts will be enforced.
When we actually cut spending, you let us know.
I already posted that fiscal 2012 has spending of $3.8 trillion and the chart YOU posted shows fiscal 2013 spending at $3.62 trillion.