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PoliticalChic,What the heck is it with the Chicken Little "the sky is falling" brigade?
How many years of no global warming will it take for them to wander off into well deserved obscurity??
More and more folks realize it's about Global Governance, not Global Warming....politics not science!
Now, from Stanley Kurtz....an explanation of the popularity in the 'hair on fire' brigade: seems it's all about playing make-believe victim.
1. "... French intellectual gadfly Pascal Bruckner (in The Fanaticism of the Apocalypse: Save the Earth, Punish Human Beings), does the most thorough job yet of explaining the climate movement as a secular religion, an odd combination of deformed Christianity and reconstructed Marxism.
2. Bruckner describes a historical process wherein “the long list of emblematic victims — Jews, blacks, slaves, proletarians, colonized peoples — was replaced, little by little, with the Planet.” The planet, says Bruckner, “has become the new proletariat that must be saved from exploitation.”
3. ... odd that a “mood of catastrophe” should prevail in the West, the most well-off part of the world. .... is that the only way to turn the prosperous into victims is to threaten the very existence of a world they otherwise command.
4. ... why should the privileged wish to become victims? To alleviate guilt and to appropriate the victim’s superior prestige. In the neo-Marxist dispensation now regnant on our college campuses, after all, the advantaged are ignorant and guilty while the oppressed are innocent and wise.
5. .... the privileged to identify with “struggling groups” by wearing, say, a Palestinian keffiyeh. Yet better than merely empathizing with the oppressed is tobe oppressed. This is the climate movement’s signal innovation.
6. .... begin with Bill McKibben, the most influential environmental activist in the country, and leader of the campus fossil-fuel divestment movement..... “My leftism grew more righteous in college,” he says, “but still there was something pro forma about it.” The problem? “Being white, male, straight, and of impeccably middle-class background, I could not realistically claim to be a victim of anything.”
7. ...McKibben continued to enthusiastically support every leftist-approved victim group he could find. Nonetheless, something was missing. None of these causes seemed truly his own. When McKibben almost singlehandedly turned global warming into a public issue in 1989, his problem was solved. Now everyone could be a victim.
8. ... despite vast differences between the upper-middle-class college students who make up much of today’s climate movement and southern blacks living under segregation in the 1950s, climate activists think of themselves on the model of the early civil-rights protesters.
9. When climate activists court arrest through civil disobedience, they imagine themselves to be reliving the struggles of persecuted African Americans staging lunch-counter sit-ins at risk of their lives.
10. Today’s climate protesters,...“feel themselves oppressed by powerful, corrupt forces beyond their control.” And they fight “not only for people in faraway places but, increasingly, for themselves.”
The Wannabe Oppressed National Review Online
So...some psychotherapy, a little prozac, and, perhaps a polo mallet, and the "Global Warming Movement" is history.
Remember when they simply dressed up as cowboys and Indians?
Well the only response from the non believers is they always chip away at little things. So they wont ever say that the data is wrong, they simply say its questionable or concerning or they ask hypothetical questions like: "How could that be true if their data was accurate?"And the irony?
After 20+ years of perpetual bomb throwing, the AGW crowd STILL has not made their case despite 90% of the media being on their side and in lockstep!!
Heres the one thing they NEVER EVER EVER do tho. They pick away at the peer reviewed science with a bunch of excuses, conspiracy theories etc. Yet, they NEVER EVER EVER provide their own conclusions to be checked by the scientific community. Do you know why? Because peanut galleries dont have solutions...just complaints.
Just like Billy Bob did earlier. Post people who ask a series of questions but they never have a solution to why there is a break in the last few years and WHY there was increases before. The most you'll get out of them is to say something vague like "patterns" or "its natural"
PC's a great example of how some people's political ideologies cross over the line from political philosophy and right on into psychological illness.
PoliticalChic,What the heck is it with the Chicken Little "the sky is falling" brigade?
How many years of no global warming will it take for them to wander off into well deserved obscurity??
More and more folks realize it's about Global Governance, not Global Warming....politics not science!
Now, from Stanley Kurtz....an explanation of the popularity in the 'hair on fire' brigade: seems it's all about playing make-believe victim.
1. "... French intellectual gadfly Pascal Bruckner (in The Fanaticism of the Apocalypse: Save the Earth, Punish Human Beings), does the most thorough job yet of explaining the climate movement as a secular religion, an odd combination of deformed Christianity and reconstructed Marxism.
2. Bruckner describes a historical process wherein “the long list of emblematic victims — Jews, blacks, slaves, proletarians, colonized peoples — was replaced, little by little, with the Planet.” The planet, says Bruckner, “has become the new proletariat that must be saved from exploitation.”
3. ... odd that a “mood of catastrophe” should prevail in the West, the most well-off part of the world. .... is that the only way to turn the prosperous into victims is to threaten the very existence of a world they otherwise command.
4. ... why should the privileged wish to become victims? To alleviate guilt and to appropriate the victim’s superior prestige. In the neo-Marxist dispensation now regnant on our college campuses, after all, the advantaged are ignorant and guilty while the oppressed are innocent and wise.
5. .... the privileged to identify with “struggling groups” by wearing, say, a Palestinian keffiyeh. Yet better than merely empathizing with the oppressed is tobe oppressed. This is the climate movement’s signal innovation.
6. .... begin with Bill McKibben, the most influential environmental activist in the country, and leader of the campus fossil-fuel divestment movement..... “My leftism grew more righteous in college,” he says, “but still there was something pro forma about it.” The problem? “Being white, male, straight, and of impeccably middle-class background, I could not realistically claim to be a victim of anything.”
7. ...McKibben continued to enthusiastically support every leftist-approved victim group he could find. Nonetheless, something was missing. None of these causes seemed truly his own. When McKibben almost singlehandedly turned global warming into a public issue in 1989, his problem was solved. Now everyone could be a victim.
8. ... despite vast differences between the upper-middle-class college students who make up much of today’s climate movement and southern blacks living under segregation in the 1950s, climate activists think of themselves on the model of the early civil-rights protesters.
9. When climate activists court arrest through civil disobedience, they imagine themselves to be reliving the struggles of persecuted African Americans staging lunch-counter sit-ins at risk of their lives.
10. Today’s climate protesters,...“feel themselves oppressed by powerful, corrupt forces beyond their control.” And they fight “not only for people in faraway places but, increasingly, for themselves.”
The Wannabe Oppressed National Review Online
So...some psychotherapy, a little prozac, and, perhaps a polo mallet, and the "Global Warming Movement" is history.
Remember when they simply dressed up as cowboys and Indians?
Each year all the volcanoes on earth put out an estimated 200 million tons of CO2 into the biosphere. Each year, human activity is the cause for an estimated 26.8 billion tons of CO2 into the environment. That isn't a scam. If you look at a graph of how much CO2 humans have caused since the beginning of the industral revloution, you will see that it keeps going up at an ever steep rate. That isn't a scam.
Climate at a Glance National Climatic Data Center NCDC
Set the time period for 14 years, 17 years or 20 years, depending on which denier you are citing, and be sure to check the box for the trend line in the options on the right and set the same time period and see if the trend line rises or falls.
14 years
Climate at a Glance National Climatic Data Center NCDC
17 years
Climate at a Glance National Climatic Data Center NCDC
20 years
Climate at a Glance National Climatic Data Center NCDC
The Left Relentlessly Pushes Climate Hoax in All-Out Assault on Capitalism
September 23, 2014
RUSH: I'm just telling you there isn't any warming. There hadn't been in 20 years. There's cooling, in fact.
And every one of your links is to ADJUSTED DATA... You never use the real data you ALWAYS ADJUST IT FIRST.. Now why would that be?
Oh that's right, because the USCRN is showing how badly tampered with the real data is.. Lets take Las Vegas Nevada for instance. The CRN site nearest this area shows a full -0.7 deg C cooling trend over the 2002 to present time span. Yet the USHCN (HSS) shows +1.1 deg C rise over the same time period after adjustments. Yet when we take unadjusted station data we find that the unadjusted data has the same -0.7 deg C trend PRIOR TO ADJUSTMENT.
You alarmist have been pawned so badly and you dont even know it.. You make statements of fact and you haven't a clue where those facts have been and what has happened to them.
Please justify a +1.8 deg C Adjustment to historical records.. This is just the tip of the iceberg we have uncovered using superior data collection techniques. That is the totality of all warming in the last hundred years and its all artifact.
Already discredited.PoliticalChic,What the heck is it with the Chicken Little "the sky is falling" brigade?
How many years of no global warming will it take for them to wander off into well deserved obscurity??
More and more folks realize it's about Global Governance, not Global Warming....politics not science!
Now, from Stanley Kurtz....an explanation of the popularity in the 'hair on fire' brigade: seems it's all about playing make-believe victim.
1. "... French intellectual gadfly Pascal Bruckner (in The Fanaticism of the Apocalypse: Save the Earth, Punish Human Beings), does the most thorough job yet of explaining the climate movement as a secular religion, an odd combination of deformed Christianity and reconstructed Marxism.
2. Bruckner describes a historical process wherein “the long list of emblematic victims — Jews, blacks, slaves, proletarians, colonized peoples — was replaced, little by little, with the Planet.” The planet, says Bruckner, “has become the new proletariat that must be saved from exploitation.”
3. ... odd that a “mood of catastrophe” should prevail in the West, the most well-off part of the world. .... is that the only way to turn the prosperous into victims is to threaten the very existence of a world they otherwise command.
4. ... why should the privileged wish to become victims? To alleviate guilt and to appropriate the victim’s superior prestige. In the neo-Marxist dispensation now regnant on our college campuses, after all, the advantaged are ignorant and guilty while the oppressed are innocent and wise.
5. .... the privileged to identify with “struggling groups” by wearing, say, a Palestinian keffiyeh. Yet better than merely empathizing with the oppressed is tobe oppressed. This is the climate movement’s signal innovation.
6. .... begin with Bill McKibben, the most influential environmental activist in the country, and leader of the campus fossil-fuel divestment movement..... “My leftism grew more righteous in college,” he says, “but still there was something pro forma about it.” The problem? “Being white, male, straight, and of impeccably middle-class background, I could not realistically claim to be a victim of anything.”
7. ...McKibben continued to enthusiastically support every leftist-approved victim group he could find. Nonetheless, something was missing. None of these causes seemed truly his own. When McKibben almost singlehandedly turned global warming into a public issue in 1989, his problem was solved. Now everyone could be a victim.
8. ... despite vast differences between the upper-middle-class college students who make up much of today’s climate movement and southern blacks living under segregation in the 1950s, climate activists think of themselves on the model of the early civil-rights protesters.
9. When climate activists court arrest through civil disobedience, they imagine themselves to be reliving the struggles of persecuted African Americans staging lunch-counter sit-ins at risk of their lives.
10. Today’s climate protesters,...“feel themselves oppressed by powerful, corrupt forces beyond their control.” And they fight “not only for people in faraway places but, increasingly, for themselves.”
The Wannabe Oppressed National Review Online
So...some psychotherapy, a little prozac, and, perhaps a polo mallet, and the "Global Warming Movement" is history.
Remember when they simply dressed up as cowboys and Indians?
Each year all the volcanoes on earth put out an estimated 200 million tons of CO2 into the biosphere. Each year, human activity is the cause for an estimated 26.8 billion tons of CO2 into the environment. That isn't a scam. If you look at a graph of how much CO2 humans have caused since the beginning of the industral revloution, you will see that it keeps going up at an ever steep rate. That isn't a scam.
"Taking the least-squares linear-regression trend on Remote Sensing Systems’ satellite-based monthly global mean lower-troposphere temperature dataset, there has been no global warming – none at all – for 17 years 10 months. This is the longest continuous period without any warming in the global instrumental temperature record since the satellites first watched in 1979. It has endured for more than half the entire satellite temperature record. Yet the lengthening Pause coincides with a continuing, rapid increase in atmospheric CO2 concentration."
RSS shows no global warming for 17 years 10 months Watts Up With That
You've been scammed.
Report it to the police.
Already discredited."Taking the least-squares linear-regression trend on Remote Sensing Systems’ satellite-based monthly global mean lower-troposphere temperature dataset, there has been no global warming – none at all – for 17 years 10 months. This is the longest continuous period without any warming in the global instrumental temperature record since the satellites first watched in 1979. It has endured for more than half the entire satellite temperature record. Yet the lengthening Pause coincides with a continuing, rapid increase in atmospheric CO2 concentration."
RSS shows no global warming for 17 years 10 months Watts Up With That
You've been scammed.
Report it to the police.
You've been scammed.
By deniers cherry-picking a warm month to start the 17+ year clock and stopping on a cold month. Using the annual data you get a +.09C/Decade warming trend.BTW --- the satellite records are free from subjective interpretation and RSS does INDEED indicate a very near zero warming trend for the past 17+ years.. And most everything in that article that PC quoted is right dead on.. INCLUDING the anecdotal evidence of MUCH HIGHER multi-decadal warming that was experienced back in the 1600s. But there --- they neglected to note, that was during the initial recovery from the LIA..
Leftist love the weak minded. They play on their emotions....
BTW --- the satellite records are free from subjective interpretation and RSS does INDEED indicate a very near zero warming trend for the past 17+ years.. And most everything in that article that PC quoted is right dead on.. INCLUDING the anecdotal evidence of MUCH HIGHER multi-decadal warming that was experienced back in the 1600s. But there --- they neglected to note, that was during the initial recovery from the LIA..
By deniers cherry-picking a warm month to start the 17+ year clock and stopping on a cold month. Using the annual data you get a +.09C/Decade warming trend.BTW --- the satellite records are free from subjective interpretation and RSS does INDEED indicate a very near zero warming trend for the past 17+ years.. And most everything in that article that PC quoted is right dead on.. INCLUDING the anecdotal evidence of MUCH HIGHER multi-decadal warming that was experienced back in the 1600s. But there --- they neglected to note, that was during the initial recovery from the LIA..
There is a reason CAGW nuts do not want statisticians looking over their work... Math doesn't LIE..
By deniers cherry-picking a warm month to start the 17+ year clock and stopping on a cold month. Using the annual data you get a +.09C/Decade warming trend.BTW --- the satellite records are free from subjective interpretation and RSS does INDEED indicate a very near zero warming trend for the past 17+ years.. And most everything in that article that PC quoted is right dead on.. INCLUDING the anecdotal evidence of MUCH HIGHER multi-decadal warming that was experienced back in the 1600s. But there --- they neglected to note, that was during the initial recovery from the LIA..
You trying to Rush Limbaugh yourself into relevence here?? Stay on the bus --- the cliff is in sight... 
I have noticed. I think aftet the Al Gore backlash it got toned down a bit. There are some funny northern hemisphere open ice issues for sure. But when the economy sucks new regulations gain less traction.Is there ANYONE HERE who hasn't noticed the complete absence of scary graphs and predictions from the Church of Global Warming for the past few years. Anyone who hasn't noticed HOW FAR the predictions have backed down?
Other than that attempt to induce floods of Biblical proportions from a misrepresentation of a paper on the West Antarctic Ice Shelf --- hardly a peep.. NOT EVEN NEWS on the Climate Conference that was SUPPOSED TO BE --- "the last chance to save the planet"..
Crickets..
BTW --- the satellite records are free from subjective interpretation and RSS does INDEED indicate a very near zero warming trend for the past 17+ years.. And most everything in that article that PC quoted is right dead on.. INCLUDING the anecdotal evidence of MUCH HIGHER multi-decadal warming that was experienced back in the 1600s. But there --- they neglected to note, that was during the initial recovery from the LIA..
By deniers cherry-picking a warm month to start the 17+ year clock and stopping on a cold month. Using the annual data you get a +.09C/Decade warming trend.BTW --- the satellite records are free from subjective interpretation and RSS does INDEED indicate a very near zero warming trend for the past 17+ years.. And most everything in that article that PC quoted is right dead on.. INCLUDING the anecdotal evidence of MUCH HIGHER multi-decadal warming that was experienced back in the 1600s. But there --- they neglected to note, that was during the initial recovery from the LIA..
Flacaltenn, is this true also?
I have noticed. I think aftet the Al Gore backlash it got toned down a bit. There are some funny northern hemisphere open ice issues for sure. But when the economy sucks new regulations gain less traction.Is there ANYONE HERE who hasn't noticed the complete absence of scary graphs and predictions from the Church of Global Warming for the past few years. Anyone who hasn't noticed HOW FAR the predictions have backed down?
Other than that attempt to induce floods of Biblical proportions from a misrepresentation of a paper on the West Antarctic Ice Shelf --- hardly a peep.. NOT EVEN NEWS on the Climate Conference that was SUPPOSED TO BE --- "the last chance to save the planet"..
Crickets..
You know what is kinda interesting though. Was reading Motor Trend earlier and all these mainstream sedans they were testing get just upper 20's for fuel economy. My 97 Aurora and 98 MarkVII get 24 and 23 respectively. For their day those were performance type sedans lol and today's normal sedans are barely any better fuel economy wise.
So I don't feel like I am being restricted or punished by the regulations.
I have noticed. I think aftet the Al Gore backlash it got toned down a bit. There are some funny northern hemisphere open ice issues for sure. But when the economy sucks new regulations gain less traction.Is there ANYONE HERE who hasn't noticed the complete absence of scary graphs and predictions from the Church of Global Warming for the past few years. Anyone who hasn't noticed HOW FAR the predictions have backed down?
Other than that attempt to induce floods of Biblical proportions from a misrepresentation of a paper on the West Antarctic Ice Shelf --- hardly a peep.. NOT EVEN NEWS on the Climate Conference that was SUPPOSED TO BE --- "the last chance to save the planet"..
Crickets..
You know what is kinda interesting though. Was reading Motor Trend earlier and all these mainstream sedans they were testing get just upper 20's for fuel economy. My 97 Aurora and 98 MarkVII get 24 and 23 respectively. For their day those were performance type sedans lol and today's normal sedans are barely any better fuel economy wise.
So I don't feel like I am being restricted or punished by the regulations.
$100s of Billions dollars wasted on windmills and solar panels instead of improving reliable generation does affect you.. So does growing 1/3 of our corn just so we can burn it.. Bought a steak lately?
I have noticed. I think aftet the Al Gore backlash it got toned down a bit. There are some funny northern hemisphere open ice issues for sure. But when the economy sucks new regulations gain less traction.Is there ANYONE HERE who hasn't noticed the complete absence of scary graphs and predictions from the Church of Global Warming for the past few years. Anyone who hasn't noticed HOW FAR the predictions have backed down?
Other than that attempt to induce floods of Biblical proportions from a misrepresentation of a paper on the West Antarctic Ice Shelf --- hardly a peep.. NOT EVEN NEWS on the Climate Conference that was SUPPOSED TO BE --- "the last chance to save the planet"..
Crickets..
You know what is kinda interesting though. Was reading Motor Trend earlier and all these mainstream sedans they were testing get just upper 20's for fuel economy. My 97 Aurora and 98 MarkVII get 24 and 23 respectively. For their day those were performance type sedans lol and today's normal sedans are barely any better fuel economy wise.
So I don't feel like I am being restricted or punished by the regulations.
$100s of Billions dollars wasted on windmills and solar panels instead of improving reliable generation does affect you.. So does growing 1/3 of our corn just so we can burn it.. Bought a steak lately?
BTW --- the satellite records are free from subjective interpretation and RSS does INDEED indicate a very near zero warming trend for the past 17+ years.. And most everything in that article that PC quoted is right dead on.. INCLUDING the anecdotal evidence of MUCH HIGHER multi-decadal warming that was experienced back in the 1600s. But there --- they neglected to note, that was during the initial recovery from the LIA..
By deniers cherry-picking a warm month to start the 17+ year clock and stopping on a cold month. Using the annual data you get a +.09C/Decade warming trend.BTW --- the satellite records are free from subjective interpretation and RSS does INDEED indicate a very near zero warming trend for the past 17+ years.. And most everything in that article that PC quoted is right dead on.. INCLUDING the anecdotal evidence of MUCH HIGHER multi-decadal warming that was experienced back in the 1600s. But there --- they neglected to note, that was during the initial recovery from the LIA..
Flacaltenn, is this true also?
I only deal with satellite measurements of temperature. Much more uniform in time and coverage and much less disputed..
1998 WAS the warmest year. Major NATURAL fluctuation. But the longer the pause, the less an influence it has on the average. Makes up 1/17 of the result. BUT -- the latter years were not "cool" by any means.
The practice of denying that there has been a massive change in Global temperature direction is reserved for the hard-core warmer zealots. Not gonna argue about 1/100ths of degree with a rapid warmer..
