Finally! An Explanation Of The "global Warming" Scam!

[CrusaderFrank]

They can't show you any experiment that shows how a 120PPM increase in CO2 can raise temperature, you have to have FAITH

 

[flacaltenn]

What percentage of the population do you think has been duped?

Between my 3 cars I have 80 valves and about 900 horse. They get 16, 23 and 24 mpg. None are wildly modified. No juice. No aftermarket turbos.

New cars are even more wild. 13 sec 1/4 mile brand 2015 Mustangs. Unreal.

These new light bulbs use less energy and save me money.

How is this negatively affecting me now?

You seem never to miss an opportunity to miss the point of an OP.

There is no "global warming."

I thought you spent a few paragraphs talking about how ppl were going nuts because of global warming and I was asking how many ppl.

Your title had me searching for a conspiracy theory but I didn't find more than some hints at hippies wanting us to live as a happy global community one world government or something.

Then you talked about something like self inflicted pain for enjoyment of a religous purpose...never got into that.

So I asked a out how this has affected us in the last 20 years and gave real world examples from my life and asked how many nuts came over to take away your car or do whatever to gauge how large a problem this conspiracy theory is.

Oh well. Did you want me to get out solar charts and pictures of Exit glacier or something?

One MAJOR effect it's had on your quality of life is that the GWarming movement has MUGGED and BEATEN every other enviro issue into oblivion.. Whether its the increasing piles of ocean garbage, or 1000s of leaking canisters of nuclear waste at govt weapons labs, or smarter land use for species preservation --- every other issue has been stifled.

And the GOOD science that COULD be done on epidemics of tree disease or honeybee collapse have all been "prayed off" with a faulty diagnosis of "Global Warming" --- all because Enviro Science only gets funding if it follows the RELIGIOUS tenets of the Warmers..

 

[flacaltenn]

You only have to look at which organization is the LEAD GLOBAL agency of this Church of Global Warming. The United Nations agendas are ALL motivating factors for their interest in GW hype and hysteria.

Global redistribution, Social Justice, Sustainability, even WOMEN'S RIGHTS have ALL been incorporated into the litany of GW goals..

 

[mamooth]

Does anyone actually read PC's Unibomber Manifestos on any thread? Simply glancing at them threatens to remove IQ points. So it's probable a few of the deniers here have studied them deeply.

The telling thing of these discussions is how almost every denier is a bedwetting extremist right-wing fruitloop. You can identify modern American hardline conservatives these days by the smell of stale urine that accompanies them. Everything has them pissing themselves. Communists, Muslims, black men, scientists, independent women, liberals ... the righty cultists see 'em, and their bladder just lets go.

 

[ClosedCaption]

"So...some psychotherapy, a little prozac, and, perhaps a polo mallet, and the "Global Warming Movement" is history.

Remember when they simply dressed up as cowboys and Indians?"

...ok...so you wanna talk about Cosplay?

You did not say much about climate stats. Mostly talked about people wanting to associate with the oppressed. We can talk about that if we lay off the flame zone quality name calling and quit hiding this psych issue under a climate change banner.

Thats what PC does. She attempts to hide ad hominem attacks behind quotes and authors. In fact the OP saying that Global Warming hasnt occurred in the last few years tells you that she believes in Global Warming and doesnt know why there hasnt been any changes recently. You can find those answers thru science but the ad hominem attacker will dismiss scientists by simply proclaiming they are "liberals"

It isn't science.....it's a scam to authorize big government to get even bigger.

Worldwide thousands of scientists since the 1900's got together to plan to make the US govt bigger. Thats fantasic! And the purpose of that would be your obligatory "control our lives" stump speech right? Thats why your long posts arent interesting anymore. At the rue of it is the boring same old bull. Being against clean air and water is really something I'm working on understanding, sorry. not sorry

 

[PoliticalChic]

Does anyone actually read PC's Unibomber Manifestos on any thread? Simply glancing at them threatens to remove IQ points. So it's probable a few of the deniers here have studied them deeply.

The telling thing of these discussions is how almost every denier is a bedwetting extremist right-wing fruitloop. You can identify modern American hardline conservatives these days by the smell of stale urine that accompanies them. Everything has them pissing themselves. Communists, Muslims, black men, scientists, independent women, liberals ... the righty cultists see 'em, and their bladder just lets go.

Translation: "I read it, but cannot find even a single thing wrong with it....woe is me."

 

[Billy_Bob]

Worldwide thousands of scientists since the 1900's got together to plan to make the US govt bigger. Thats fantasic! And the purpose of that would be your obligatory "control our lives" stump speech right? Thats why your long posts arent interesting anymore. At the rue of it is the boring same old bull. Being against clean air and water is really something I'm working on understanding, sorry. not sorry

You dont get it do you... In the late 1970's there were real problems found with air quality and once they were addressed those problems vanished in the US. Without a job the EPA went looking for a new cause and they found one in socialist control.. they now use that power way beyond the agencies original intent to forward socialist agenda by trying to kill capitalism.

Only a fool can not see what it has become. We have never been about not wanting a good environment for our children, That lie is one touted by alarmist to create fear.. Foolish fear of nothing.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"So...some psychotherapy, a little prozac, and, perhaps a polo mallet, and the "Global Warming Movement" is history.

Remember when they simply dressed up as cowboys and Indians?"

...ok...so you wanna talk about Cosplay?

You did not say much about climate stats. Mostly talked about people wanting to associate with the oppressed. We can talk about that if we lay off the flame zone quality name calling and quit hiding this psych issue under a climate change banner.

Thats what PC does. She attempts to hide ad hominem attacks behind quotes and authors. In fact the OP saying that Global Warming hasnt occurred in the last few years tells you that she believes in Global Warming and doesnt know why there hasnt been any changes recently. You can find those answers thru science but the ad hominem attacker will dismiss scientists by simply proclaiming they are "liberals"

It isn't science.....it's a scam to authorize big government to get even bigger.

Worldwide thousands of scientists since the 1900's got together to plan to make the US govt bigger. Thats fantasic! And the purpose of that would be your obligatory "control our lives" stump speech right? Thats why your long posts arent interesting anymore. At the rue of it is the boring same old bull. Being against clean air and water is really something I'm working on understanding, sorry. not sorry

"Worldwide thousands of scientists since the 1900's..."

"Civil war erupted between the "Red" (Bolshevik) and "White" (anti-Bolshevik) factions, which was to continue for several years, with the Bolsheviks ultimately victorious. In this way, the Revolution paved the way for the creation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) in 1922."
Russian Revolution - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Quite the coincidence, huh?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Worldwide thousands of scientists since the 1900's got together to plan to make the US govt bigger. Thats fantasic! And the purpose of that would be your obligatory "control our lives" stump speech right? Thats why your long posts arent interesting anymore. At the rue of it is the boring same old bull. Being against clean air and water is really something I'm working on understanding, sorry. not sorry

You dont get it do you... In the late 1970's there were real problems found with air quality and once they were addressed those problems vanished in the US. Without a job the EPA went looking for a new cause and they found one in socialist control.. they now use that power way beyond the agencies original intent to forward socialist agenda by trying to kill capitalism.

Well hey now...Since we had real problems with air quality and fixed it we shouldnt believe those same scientists because they've been so wrong before. And are you referring to the Ozone layer? Because that wasnt a US problem if I remember correctly.

Only a fool can not see what it has become. We have never been about not wanting a good environment for our children, That lie is one touted by alarmist to create fear.. Foolish fear of nothing.

Foolish fear of nothing? Are you talking about your conspiracy theories about me and every person, org and scientist worldwide all wanting to expand the US govt? Or are you referring to the data from scientist that got rid of the Air Quality problems we had before?

 

[ClosedCaption]

"So...some psychotherapy, a little prozac, and, perhaps a polo mallet, and the "Global Warming Movement" is history.

Remember when they simply dressed up as cowboys and Indians?"

...ok...so you wanna talk about Cosplay?

You did not say much about climate stats. Mostly talked about people wanting to associate with the oppressed. We can talk about that if we lay off the flame zone quality name calling and quit hiding this psych issue under a climate change banner.

Thats what PC does. She attempts to hide ad hominem attacks behind quotes and authors. In fact the OP saying that Global Warming hasnt occurred in the last few years tells you that she believes in Global Warming and doesnt know why there hasnt been any changes recently. You can find those answers thru science but the ad hominem attacker will dismiss scientists by simply proclaiming they are "liberals"

It isn't science.....it's a scam to authorize big government to get even bigger.

Worldwide thousands of scientists since the 1900's got together to plan to make the US govt bigger. Thats fantasic! And the purpose of that would be your obligatory "control our lives" stump speech right? Thats why your long posts arent interesting anymore. At the rue of it is the boring same old bull. Being against clean air and water is really something I'm working on understanding, sorry. not sorry

"Worldwide thousands of scientists since the 1900's..."

"Civil war erupted between the "Red" (Bolshevik) and "White" (anti-Bolshevik) factions, which was to continue for several years, with the Bolsheviks ultimately victorious. In this way, the Revolution paved the way for the creation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) in 1922."
Russian Revolution - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Quite the coincidence, huh?

Yeah, I see the coincidence. I mentioned the 1900's and you're talking about something that occurred in that century.

 

[boedicca]

"So...some psychotherapy, a little prozac, and, perhaps a polo mallet, and the "Global Warming Movement" is history.

Remember when they simply dressed up as cowboys and Indians?"

...ok...so you wanna talk about Cosplay?

You did not say much about climate stats. Mostly talked about people wanting to associate with the oppressed. We can talk about that if we lay off the flame zone quality name calling and quit hiding this psych issue under a climate change banner.

Thats what PC does. She attempts to hide ad hominem attacks behind quotes and authors. In fact the OP saying that Global Warming hasnt occurred in the last few years tells you that she believes in Global Warming and doesnt know why there hasnt been any changes recently. You can find those answers thru science but the ad hominem attacker will dismiss scientists by simply proclaiming they are "liberals"

It isn't science.....it's a scam to authorize big government to get even bigger.

Worldwide thousands of scientists since the 1900's got together to plan to make the US govt bigger. Thats fantasic! And the purpose of that would be your obligatory "control our lives" stump speech right? Thats why your long posts arent interesting anymore. At the rue of it is the boring same old bull. Being against clean air and water is really something I'm working on understanding, sorry. not sorry

"Worldwide thousands of scientists since the 1900's..."

"Civil war erupted between the "Red" (Bolshevik) and "White" (anti-Bolshevik) factions, which was to continue for several years, with the Bolsheviks ultimately victorious. In this way, the Revolution paved the way for the creation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) in 1922."
Russian Revolution - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Quite the coincidence, huh?

GREEN is the New Red.

 

[ClosedCaption]

LOL! Ok someone simply explain how concern for global warming translates into communism? Seriously, how will your lives become similar to communist Russia?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Well hey now...Since we had real problems with air quality and fixed it we shouldnt believe those same scientists because they've been so wrong before. And are you referring to the Ozone layer? Because that wasnt a US problem if I remember correctly.


Foolish fear of nothing? Are you talking about your conspiracy theories about me and every person, org and scientist worldwide all wanting to expand the US govt? Or are you referring to the data from scientist that got rid of the Air Quality problems we had before?

All I can do is laugh at your reading comprehension problems...

One: The O-zone hole is directly related to solar output. Recent study's of the Ozone process show that CFC's were NOT the cause of its depletion. Solar Radiation was. Now that the sun has decreased activity the ozone process has rapidly increased. There is even theroy that this is a potential cause for long term ice ages.

Two: You missed where the EPA shifted its mission from scientific to one of political control and Constitutional Subversion. that is why those "scientists" can no longer be trusted.

Finally: Why dont you go and tell the Chinese what they have to do first!

 

[PoliticalChic]

"So...some psychotherapy, a little prozac, and, perhaps a polo mallet, and the "Global Warming Movement" is history.

Remember when they simply dressed up as cowboys and Indians?"

...ok...so you wanna talk about Cosplay?

You did not say much about climate stats. Mostly talked about people wanting to associate with the oppressed. We can talk about that if we lay off the flame zone quality name calling and quit hiding this psych issue under a climate change banner.

Thats what PC does. She attempts to hide ad hominem attacks behind quotes and authors. In fact the OP saying that Global Warming hasnt occurred in the last few years tells you that she believes in Global Warming and doesnt know why there hasnt been any changes recently. You can find those answers thru science but the ad hominem attacker will dismiss scientists by simply proclaiming they are "liberals"

It isn't science.....it's a scam to authorize big government to get even bigger.

Worldwide thousands of scientists since the 1900's got together to plan to make the US govt bigger. Thats fantasic! And the purpose of that would be your obligatory "control our lives" stump speech right? Thats why your long posts arent interesting anymore. At the rue of it is the boring same old bull. Being against clean air and water is really something I'm working on understanding, sorry. not sorry

"Worldwide thousands of scientists since the 1900's..."

"Civil war erupted between the "Red" (Bolshevik) and "White" (anti-Bolshevik) factions, which was to continue for several years, with the Bolsheviks ultimately victorious. In this way, the Revolution paved the way for the creation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) in 1922."
Russian Revolution - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Quite the coincidence, huh?

Yeah, I see the coincidence. I mentioned the 1900's and you're talking about something that occurred in that century.

Here....let me help you to connect those dots....."it is "green on the outside and red on the inside"


"Eco-socialists are critical of many past and existing forms of both Green politics and socialism. They are often described as "Red Greens" - adherents to Green politics with clear anti-capitalist views, often inspired by Marxism (Red Greens are in contrast to eco-capitalists and Green anarchists).

The term "watermelon" is commonly applied, often pejoratively, to Greens who seem to put "social justice" goals above ecological ones, implying they are "green on the outside but red on the inside"; the term is usually attributed to either Petr Beckmann or, more frequently,Warren T. Brookes,[2][3][4] both critics of environmentalism, and is common in Australia,[5][6] New Zealand[7] and the United States.[8]

A New Zealand website, The Watermelon, uses the term proudly, stating that it is "green on the outside and liberal on the inside", while also citing "socialist political leanings", reflecting the use of the term "liberal" to describe the left wing in many English-speaking countries."
Eco-socialism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Billy_Bob]

They can't show you any experiment that shows how a 120PPM increase in CO2 can raise temperature, you have to have FAITH

This is correct. In our OPEN system that is precisely the issue. In the lab, the reflected heat, in theroy should cause warming. The problem is water vapor. When added to the mix negates over 96% of all reflected warming by absorption above the surface. The reduction in energy hitting the surface and the reflected energy is almost a zero sum game. This is why we have seen a 0.0 rise in 60 years when looking at the CRN data. All of the last 60 years of rise has been lost since 1998. Most of it in the last 10 years -0.6 deg C.

 

[PoliticalChic]

LOL! Ok someone simply explain how concern for global warming translates into communism? Seriously, how will your lives become similar to communist Russia?

"On the excellent webcast Uncommon Knowledge, Czech president Václav Klaus recently compared “two ideologies” that were “structurally very similar. They are against individual freedom. They are in favor of centralistic masterminding of our fates. They are both very similar in telling us what to do, how to live, how to behave, what to eat, how to travel, what we can do and what we cannot do.”

The first of Klaus’s “two ideologies” was Communism—a system with which he was deeply familiar, having participated in the Velvet Revolution in 1989. The second was environmentalism."
The Varieties of Liberal Enthusiasm by Benjamin A. Plotinsky, City Journal Spring 2010

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Liberal monasteries, the universities, have made it attractive to be a victim....

It began with the hippies trying to burn down the colleges that they now own.



13. " Back in the late 1960s and early 1970s, when the classic liberal-arts curriculum first came under challenge, courses in ethnic and gender studies were like tiny islands in a sea of traditionalism. Politicized in ways that were incompatible with liberal education, these ideologically based “studies” programs were generally dismissed as necessary concessions to the nascent multicultural zeitgeist.


Today the situation is reversed. Not only have the ideologically driven “studies” programs taken over a large share of the college curriculum, but many courses in conventional departments reflect the underlying assumptions of the various minority-studies concentrations.


Today, classic liberal-arts courses have themselves been turned into tiny besieged islands, while the study of alleged oppression represents the leading approach at America’s colleges and universities.


....students cannot help wishing to see themselves as members of a persecuted group. Climate activism answers their existential challenges and gives them a sense of crusading purpose in a lonely secular world. The planet, as Bruckner would have it, is the new proletariat.


... substitute “upper-middle-class” for “planet,” and the progression of victimhood is explained. Global warming allows the upper-middle-class to join the proletariat, cloaking erstwhile oppressors in the mantle of righteous victimhood."
The Wannabe Oppressed National Review Online

 

[ClosedCaption]

Well hey now...Since we had real problems with air quality and fixed it we shouldnt believe those same scientists because they've been so wrong before. And are you referring to the Ozone layer? Because that wasnt a US problem if I remember correctly.


Foolish fear of nothing? Are you talking about your conspiracy theories about me and every person, org and scientist worldwide all wanting to expand the US govt? Or are you referring to the data from scientist that got rid of the Air Quality problems we had before?

All I can do is laugh at your reading comprehension problems...

One: The O-zone hole is directly related to solar output. Recent study's of the Ozone process show that CFC's were NOT the cause of its depletion. Solar Radiation was. Now that the sun has decreased activity the ozone process has rapidly increased. There is even theroy that this is a potential cause for long term ice ages.

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First to say that CFC's wasnt a problem shows either you dont know what you're talking about or you know and are actively lying about it. When CFCs and HCFCs reach the stratosphere, the ultraviolet radiation from the sun causes them to break apart and release chlorine atoms which react with ozone, starting chemical cycles of ozone destruction that deplete the ozone layer.

http://www.epa.gov/ozone/science/html or maybe you'll go the "the EPA is lying" route so here is the same from National Geographic: Ozone Depletion Information Ozone Depletion Facts Ozone Layer Ozone Hole - National Geographic

In fact if you did a search for ozone depletion you couldnt find not one source that says CFC's were not part of the cause of it. But since everyone is against you I'm sure you find some shadowy reason why you cant find evidence of it too.

Two: You missed where the EPA shifted its mission from scientific to one of political control and Constitutional Subversion. that is why those "scientists" can no longer be trusted.

Finally: Why dont you go and tell the Chinese what they have to do first!

yeah, I missed the part where the EPA went for political control because the only mention of how that happened is simply you saying it happened. Unfortunatly theres no part for me to see. If you'd like to link to anything or quote anything to back that up maybe the picture would be clearer.

 

[ClosedCaption]

LOL! Ok someone simply explain how concern for global warming translates into communism? Seriously, how will your lives become similar to communist Russia?

"On the excellent webcast Uncommon Knowledge, Czech president Václav Klaus recently compared “two ideologies” that were “structurally very similar. They are against individual freedom. They are in favor of centralistic masterminding of our fates. They are both very similar in telling us what to do, how to live, how to behave, what to eat, how to travel, what we can do and what we cannot do.”

The first of Klaus’s “two ideologies” was Communism—a system with which he was deeply familiar, having participated in the Velvet Revolution in 1989. The second was environmentalism."
The Varieties of Liberal Enthusiasm by Benjamin A. Plotinsky, City Journal Spring 2010

So again, I love the bias opinions as explanations and all that. Its like me saying Marshmellows are nasty then posting quotes from a "I hate marshmellows" group as proof.

But I asked you, simply explain how concern for global warming translates into communism?
how will your lives become similar to communist Russia?

 

[PoliticalChic]

LOL! Ok someone simply explain how concern for global warming translates into communism? Seriously, how will your lives become similar to communist Russia?

"On the excellent webcast Uncommon Knowledge, Czech president Václav Klaus recently compared “two ideologies” that were “structurally very similar. They are against individual freedom. They are in favor of centralistic masterminding of our fates. They are both very similar in telling us what to do, how to live, how to behave, what to eat, how to travel, what we can do and what we cannot do.”

The first of Klaus’s “two ideologies” was Communism—a system with which he was deeply familiar, having participated in the Velvet Revolution in 1989. The second was environmentalism."
The Varieties of Liberal Enthusiasm by Benjamin A. Plotinsky, City Journal Spring 2010

So again, I love the bias opinions as explanations and all that. Its like me saying Marshmellows are nasty then posting quotes from a "I hate marshmellows" group as proof.

But I asked you, simply explain how concern for global warming translates into communism?
how will your lives become similar to communist Russia?

Seriously???

You can't understand how that was answered and documented?


Must be that government schooling.