Evil

[Moonglow]

With a body-count of 50 million unborn human beings through abortion over the last 40 years, I'd have to say yes: Liberalism is inherently evil. It far surpasses the evil of Nazi Germany which exterminated 6 million Jews,and is vying for first place place with the Communist ideology, which has exterminated over a hundred million.

Yet you say not one word about babies and kids killed by US bombs in the Middle East during the last round of wars for profit.

Truly a tragedy. Are you equating casualties of war to abortion or making a two wrongs makes a right argument?

I don't see how you can support war and be against abortion it's like being a twisted bitch. Children are killed along with pregnant Mothers over the fact that the CIA installed a dictator gone rogue..

Which wars? Some wars are the lesser of two evils. But regardless of that I never rationalize any war as being moral. Or that war is not immoral. At the very least you rationalize that abortion is not immoral. So I have no incongruity in my beliefs. You do.

You rationalized your train of thought into my statement, doesn't work that way...

 

[anynameyouwish]

To be a Liberal, Leftist, Progressive, whatever, one must not only fail to recognize the myriad inconsistencies and failures of the doctrines of that faith....

....but one must steadfastly refuse to admit that evil actually exists as the force that innervates those doctrines, the slaughter of millions under its auspices, notwithstanding.


1. "Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes." Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913 Lenin 55. TO MAXIM GORKY

Perhaps the most precise explanation for the Left's hatred of religion is that it reveals that evil exists.


2. But the Left itself knows that evil exists, and sometimes admits it's dedication to same.
Barack Obama got his start as a community organizer in Chicago,saying it was "the best education I ever had, better than anything I got at Harvard Law School." And while he downplays his connections to ACORN, claiming he worked for churches, he was trained by (Saul) Alinsky's Industrial Areas Foundation and then spent years in the 1980s teaching the Alinsky method to others through several Alinsky offshoots such as Project Vote and Developing Communities Project in Chicago.

Barack Obama's mentor was proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief




3. Three stood in the way of world domination by that major iteration of depravity, 'The Evil Empire.'

"Twenty-six months separated the elections of John Paul II and Ronald Reagan, and Margaret Thatcher began her premiership roughly in between. Fewer than three months (to be precise, seventy days) separated Reagan’s election and the attempt on his life by John Hinckley on March 30, 1981. John Paul II narrowly survived an attempted assassination a mere forty-three days later, in May 13. And three years later Thatcher escaped unharmed when an IRA bomb intended to kill her exploded in the Grand Hotel in Brighton on October 12, 1984, killing five people and wounding many others, including her close friend and ally Norman Tebbit.

There is an almost cinematic neatness about this series of crimes. In The Omen or The Exorcist they would be readily explained as the forces of Satan seeking to destroy the apostles of hope before they could do too much good (though a more formulaic film director than God would have insisted that Satan move his attempt on Thatcher’s life up to 1981). This slightly eerie impression is reinforced by the extraordinary narrowness of the escape of all three intended victims. At least two of those intended victims believed that God had intervened to preserve their lives, and guided their later action by the light of that belief."
John O'sullivan, "The President, the Pope, and the Prime Minister: Three Who Changed the World," p.65-66



Today there may be a different seat of, and for, evil.....but it exists, it is powerful, and it need be defeated.

I think wanting to kill liberals simply because they don't hate gays and would like affordable health care and don't want evangelical christians making the bible the law of the land makes YOU evil,


YOU are evil.

 

[ding]

Yet you say not one word about babies and kids killed by US bombs in the Middle East during the last round of wars for profit.

Truly a tragedy. Are you equating casualties of war to abortion or making a two wrongs makes a right argument?

I don't see how you can support war and be against abortion it's like being a twisted bitch. Children are killed along with pregnant Mothers over the fact that the CIA installed a dictator gone rogue..

Which wars? Some wars are the lesser of two evils. But regardless of that I never rationalize any war as being moral. Or that war is not immoral. At the very least you rationalize that abortion is not immoral. So I have no incongruity in my beliefs. You do.

You rationalized your train of thought into my statement, doesn't work that way...

I did no such thing. All you have to do is admit that abortion is immoral and your incongruity is resolved.

I have already stated that war and abortion are immoral.

 

[anynameyouwish]

You people have no idea what a liberal is, much less what liberalism represents..No surprise, people like you have to make an enemy to justify your illogical operations and deceit..

I'll go further.

They DEMONIZE and VILIFY liberals because of their blood lust.

They want to KILL liberals.

but they want to JUSTIFY their murder.

"we HAD to kill all of the liberals because liberals were EVIL"

THAT is how evil CONSERVATIVES are.


And politicalchic is just about the MOST evil of them all.

 

[Moonglow]

Yet you say not one word about babies and kids killed by US bombs in the Middle East during the last round of wars for profit.

Truly a tragedy. Are you equating casualties of war to abortion or making a two wrongs makes a right argument?

I don't see how you can support war and be against abortion it's like being a twisted bitch. Children are killed along with pregnant Mothers over the fact that the CIA installed a dictator gone rogue..

Which wars? Some wars are the lesser of two evils. But regardless of that I never rationalize any war as being moral. Or that war is not immoral. At the very least you rationalize that abortion is not immoral. So I have no incongruity in my beliefs. You do.

You rationalized your train of thought into my statement, doesn't work that way...

I did no such thing. All you have to do is admit that abortion is immoral and your incongruity is resolved.

I have already stated that war and abortion are immoral.

I do not advocate abortion and never have, Miss Daisy can you finish taking a shit now or is there some other form of expression that allows you to carry on?

 

[Moonglow]

You people have no idea what a liberal is, much less what liberalism represents..No surprise, people like you have to make an enemy to justify your illogical operations and deceit..

I'll go further.

They DEMONIZE and VILIFY liberals because of their blood lust.

They want to KILL liberals.

but they want to JUSTIFY their murder.

"we HAD to kill all of the liberals because liberals were EVIL"

THAT is how evil CONSERVATIVES are.


And politicalchic is just about the MOST evil of them all.

and they want to kill people at our borders, these people are nothing more than vindictive hypocrites I know..Once they think they are "saved" they have no recantations of the scripture they push for their political objectives which in the end amounts to control, the same thing their God wants.

 

[ding]

Truly a tragedy. Are you equating casualties of war to abortion or making a two wrongs makes a right argument?

I don't see how you can support war and be against abortion it's like being a twisted bitch. Children are killed along with pregnant Mothers over the fact that the CIA installed a dictator gone rogue..

Which wars? Some wars are the lesser of two evils. But regardless of that I never rationalize any war as being moral. Or that war is not immoral. At the very least you rationalize that abortion is not immoral. So I have no incongruity in my beliefs. You do.

You rationalized your train of thought into my statement, doesn't work that way...

I did no such thing. All you have to do is admit that abortion is immoral and your incongruity is resolved.

I have already stated that war and abortion are immoral.

I do not advocate abortion and never have, Miss Daisy can you finish taking a shit now or is there some other form of expression that allows you to carry on?

Not the same thing as you saying you believe abortion is immoral.

You are literally defending abortion by arguing that war kills babies which it most likely does.

Of course everyone dies so you might as well argue abortion is moral because everyone dies, right.

So which is it? Is abortion immoral or not?

 

[Moonglow]

I don't see how you can support war and be against abortion it's like being a twisted bitch. Children are killed along with pregnant Mothers over the fact that the CIA installed a dictator gone rogue..

Which wars? Some wars are the lesser of two evils. But regardless of that I never rationalize any war as being moral. Or that war is not immoral. At the very least you rationalize that abortion is not immoral. So I have no incongruity in my beliefs. You do.

You rationalized your train of thought into my statement, doesn't work that way...

I did no such thing. All you have to do is admit that abortion is immoral and your incongruity is resolved.

I have already stated that war and abortion are immoral.

I do not advocate abortion and never have, Miss Daisy can you finish taking a shit now or is there some other form of expression that allows you to carry on?

Not the same thing as you saying you believe abortion is immoral.

You are literally defending abortion by arguing that war kills babies which it most likely does.

Of course everyone dies so you might as well argue abortion is moral because everyone dies, right.

So which is it? Is abortion immoral or not?

This is a stupid message board where informal debate is suppose to happen, well guess what Dilbert I take the anti-stand on certain issues and on the same issues can be pro...Don't let this place get to yaa and make you think it's a place to preach your bullshit...

 

[ding]

Which wars? Some wars are the lesser of two evils. But regardless of that I never rationalize any war as being moral. Or that war is not immoral. At the very least you rationalize that abortion is not immoral. So I have no incongruity in my beliefs. You do.

You rationalized your train of thought into my statement, doesn't work that way...

I did no such thing. All you have to do is admit that abortion is immoral and your incongruity is resolved.

I have already stated that war and abortion are immoral.

I do not advocate abortion and never have, Miss Daisy can you finish taking a shit now or is there some other form of expression that allows you to carry on?

Not the same thing as you saying you believe abortion is immoral.

You are literally defending abortion by arguing that war kills babies which it most likely does.

Of course everyone dies so you might as well argue abortion is moral because everyone dies, right.

So which is it? Is abortion immoral or not?

This is a stupid message board where informal debate is suppose to happen, well guess what Dilbert I take the anti-stand on certain issues and on the same issues can be pro...Don't let this place get to yaa and make you think it's a place to preach your bullshit...

You conflict stands unresolved.

 

[Moonglow]

You rationalized your train of thought into my statement, doesn't work that way...

I did no such thing. All you have to do is admit that abortion is immoral and your incongruity is resolved.

I have already stated that war and abortion are immoral.

I do not advocate abortion and never have, Miss Daisy can you finish taking a shit now or is there some other form of expression that allows you to carry on?

Not the same thing as you saying you believe abortion is immoral.

You are literally defending abortion by arguing that war kills babies which it most likely does.

Of course everyone dies so you might as well argue abortion is moral because everyone dies, right.

So which is it? Is abortion immoral or not?

This is a stupid message board where informal debate is suppose to happen, well guess what Dilbert I take the anti-stand on certain issues and on the same issues can be pro...Don't let this place get to yaa and make you think it's a place to preach your bullshit...

You conflict stands unresolved.

It is your conflict because you need it..

 

[ding]

I did no such thing. All you have to do is admit that abortion is immoral and your incongruity is resolved.

I have already stated that war and abortion are immoral.

I do not advocate abortion and never have, Miss Daisy can you finish taking a shit now or is there some other form of expression that allows you to carry on?

Not the same thing as you saying you believe abortion is immoral.

You are literally defending abortion by arguing that war kills babies which it most likely does.

Of course everyone dies so you might as well argue abortion is moral because everyone dies, right.

So which is it? Is abortion immoral or not?

This is a stupid message board where informal debate is suppose to happen, well guess what Dilbert I take the anti-stand on certain issues and on the same issues can be pro...Don't let this place get to yaa and make you think it's a place to preach your bullshit...

You conflict stands unresolved.

It is your conflict because you need it..

Incorrect. I have zero preference for an outcome. I win either way.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

To be a Liberal, Leftist, Progressive, whatever..
....one must steadfastly refuse to admit that evil actually exists....

You're kidding right?
A white male... nuff said

 

[PoliticalChic]

Tell me how liberal Stalin was....I await the ignorance and poor nomenclature skills of the proletariats......

Stalin, Lenin and Marx were materialists. I am guessing like you. They were militant atheists. They condemned respect for anyone who believed in a higher power than man. Liberalism leads to radicalism. Radicalism leads to socialism. Socialism cannot resist becoming communism. A people without a heritage are easily persuaded.

Let's remind all that the Democrat Party stands for the same things the communist party did....



These were listed as the aims of the communist party, (CPUSA) after the war, and, to an almost 100% extent, they the same as today's Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.



1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.


2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.


3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.





4. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.


6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.





7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.


8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."





9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."







10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.


13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce


Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?



I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals




10 planks of Communist manifesto

Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

 

[PoliticalChic]

To be a Liberal, Leftist, Progressive, whatever, one must not only fail to recognize the myriad inconsistencies and failures of the doctrines of that faith....

....but one must steadfastly refuse to admit that evil actually exists as the force that innervates those doctrines, the slaughter of millions under its auspices, notwithstanding.


1. "Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes." Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913 Lenin 55. TO MAXIM GORKY

Perhaps the most precise explanation for the Left's hatred of religion is that it reveals that evil exists.


2. But the Left itself knows that evil exists, and sometimes admits it's dedication to same.
Barack Obama got his start as a community organizer in Chicago,saying it was "the best education I ever had, better than anything I got at Harvard Law School." And while he downplays his connections to ACORN, claiming he worked for churches, he was trained by (Saul) Alinsky's Industrial Areas Foundation and then spent years in the 1980s teaching the Alinsky method to others through several Alinsky offshoots such as Project Vote and Developing Communities Project in Chicago.

Barack Obama's mentor was proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief




3. Three stood in the way of world domination by that major iteration of depravity, 'The Evil Empire.'

"Twenty-six months separated the elections of John Paul II and Ronald Reagan, and Margaret Thatcher began her premiership roughly in between. Fewer than three months (to be precise, seventy days) separated Reagan’s election and the attempt on his life by John Hinckley on March 30, 1981. John Paul II narrowly survived an attempted assassination a mere forty-three days later, in May 13. And three years later Thatcher escaped unharmed when an IRA bomb intended to kill her exploded in the Grand Hotel in Brighton on October 12, 1984, killing five people and wounding many others, including her close friend and ally Norman Tebbit.

There is an almost cinematic neatness about this series of crimes. In The Omen or The Exorcist they would be readily explained as the forces of Satan seeking to destroy the apostles of hope before they could do too much good (though a more formulaic film director than God would have insisted that Satan move his attempt on Thatcher’s life up to 1981). This slightly eerie impression is reinforced by the extraordinary narrowness of the escape of all three intended victims. At least two of those intended victims believed that God had intervened to preserve their lives, and guided their later action by the light of that belief."
John O'sullivan, "The President, the Pope, and the Prime Minister: Three Who Changed the World," p.65-66



Today there may be a different seat of, and for, evil.....but it exists, it is powerful, and it need be defeated.

I think wanting to kill liberals simply because they don't hate gays and would like affordable health care and don't want evangelical christians making the bible the law of the land makes YOU evil,


YOU are evil.

Since you are unable to document any of your claims, you have merely provided proof of
Rule #2
To know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.




It's just one of the reasons you are called 'mud.'

 

[PoliticalChic]

To be a Liberal, Leftist, Progressive, whatever, one must not only fail to recognize the myriad inconsistencies and failures of the doctrines of that faith....

....but one must steadfastly refuse to admit that evil actually exists as the force that innervates those doctrines, the slaughter of millions under its auspices, notwithstanding.


1. "Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes." Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913 Lenin 55. TO MAXIM GORKY

Perhaps the most precise explanation for the Left's hatred of religion is that it reveals that evil exists.


2. But the Left itself knows that evil exists, and sometimes admits it's dedication to same.
Barack Obama got his start as a community organizer in Chicago,saying it was "the best education I ever had, better than anything I got at Harvard Law School." And while he downplays his connections to ACORN, claiming he worked for churches, he was trained by (Saul) Alinsky's Industrial Areas Foundation and then spent years in the 1980s teaching the Alinsky method to others through several Alinsky offshoots such as Project Vote and Developing Communities Project in Chicago.

Barack Obama's mentor was proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief




3. Three stood in the way of world domination by that major iteration of depravity, 'The Evil Empire.'

"Twenty-six months separated the elections of John Paul II and Ronald Reagan, and Margaret Thatcher began her premiership roughly in between. Fewer than three months (to be precise, seventy days) separated Reagan’s election and the attempt on his life by John Hinckley on March 30, 1981. John Paul II narrowly survived an attempted assassination a mere forty-three days later, in May 13. And three years later Thatcher escaped unharmed when an IRA bomb intended to kill her exploded in the Grand Hotel in Brighton on October 12, 1984, killing five people and wounding many others, including her close friend and ally Norman Tebbit.

There is an almost cinematic neatness about this series of crimes. In The Omen or The Exorcist they would be readily explained as the forces of Satan seeking to destroy the apostles of hope before they could do too much good (though a more formulaic film director than God would have insisted that Satan move his attempt on Thatcher’s life up to 1981). This slightly eerie impression is reinforced by the extraordinary narrowness of the escape of all three intended victims. At least two of those intended victims believed that God had intervened to preserve their lives, and guided their later action by the light of that belief."
John O'sullivan, "The President, the Pope, and the Prime Minister: Three Who Changed the World," p.65-66



Today there may be a different seat of, and for, evil.....but it exists, it is powerful, and it need be defeated.

 

[PoliticalChic]

To be a Liberal, Leftist, Progressive, whatever..
....one must steadfastly refuse to admit that evil actually exists....

You're kidding right?
A white male... nuff said

Please articulate a complete elucidation of your point.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

To be a Liberal, Leftist, Progressive, whatever..
....one must steadfastly refuse to admit that evil actually exists....

You're kidding right?
A white male... nuff said

Please articulate a complete elucidation of your point.

Tongue-in-cheek
Leftist see all white males as evil...

 

[JGalt]

With a body-count of 50 million unborn human beings through abortion over the last 40 years, I'd have to say yes: Liberalism is inherently evil. It far surpasses the evil of Nazi Germany which exterminated 6 million Jews,and is vying for first place place with the Communist ideology, which has exterminated over a hundred million.

Yet you say not one word about babies and kids killed by US bombs in the Middle East during the last round of wars for profit.

Big difference: The sixth commandment in the Ten Commandments says "Thou shalt not kill", which literally means "Thou shalt not murder."

Abortion is deliberate murder with an intended victim. Bombing raids on terrorist targets are not "murder", they are war. If there are any collateral casualties, they were not the intended targets of the strike.

Glad I could straighten you out. You're welcome.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Tell me how liberal Stalin was....I await the ignorance and poor nomenclature skills of the proletariats......

Stalin, Lenin and Marx were materialists. I am guessing like you. They were militant atheists. They condemned respect for anyone who believed in a higher power than man. Liberalism leads to radicalism. Radicalism leads to socialism. Socialism cannot resist becoming communism. A people without a heritage are easily persuaded.

Let's remind all that the Democrat Party stands for the same things the communist party did....



These were listed as the aims of the communist party, (CPUSA) after the war, and, to an almost 100% extent, they the same as today's Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.



1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.


2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.


3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.





4. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.


6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.





7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.


8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."





9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."







10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.


13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce


Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?



I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals




10 planks of Communist manifesto

Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

 

[Moonglow]

With a body-count of 50 million unborn human beings through abortion over the last 40 years, I'd have to say yes: Liberalism is inherently evil. It far surpasses the evil of Nazi Germany which exterminated 6 million Jews,and is vying for first place place with the Communist ideology, which has exterminated over a hundred million.

Yet you say not one word about babies and kids killed by US bombs in the Middle East during the last round of wars for profit.

Big difference: The sixth commandment in the Ten Commandments says "Thou shalt not kill", which literally means "Thou shalt not murder."

Abortion is deliberate murder with an intended victim. Bombing raids on terrorist targets are not "murder", they are war. If there are any collateral casualties, they were not the intended targets of the strike.

Glad I could straighten you out. You're welcome.

Yet they were killed, murdered or terminated for a just cause that God always allows to happen. In yer eyes the Nazis committed zero atrocities against anyone because it was in the course of war...