'Evil little thing' or defender of the constitution?

[kidrocks]

Well?

Is Jessica Ahlquist an... "'Evil little thing' or defender of the constitution?" You decide but as for me I vote on the side of the seperation of church and state. You constitutionalists should also.







NYT: Atheist teen forces school to remove prayer - US news - The New York Times - msnbc.com

CRANSTON, R.I. She is 16, the daughter of a firefighter and a nurse, a self-proclaimed nerd who loves Harry Potter and Facebook. But Jessica Ahlquist is also an outspoken atheist who has incensed this heavily Roman Catholic city with a successful lawsuit to get a prayer removed from the wall of her high school auditorium, where it has hung for 49 years.

A federal judge ruled this month that the prayer’s presence at Cranston High School West was unconstitutional, concluding that it violated the principle of government neutrality in religion.

In the weeks since, residents have crowded school board meetings to demand an appeal, Jessica has received online threats and the police have escorted her at school, and Cranston, a dense city of 80,000 just south of Providence, has throbbed with raw emotion.

State Representative Peter G. Palumbo, a Democrat from Cranston, called Jessica “an evil little thing” on a popular talk radio show. Three separate florists refused to deliver her roses sent from a national atheist group. The group, the Freedom From Religion Foundation, has filed a complaint with the Rhode Island Commission for Human Rights...

 

[Truthmatters]

bless her constitution loving heart

 

[zzzz]

To me this goes beyond the intent of the founding fathers. Articles of religion like the ten commandments on courthouses and this prayer (although being 8 feet high is a little overboard) do not infringe on that separation. If the people of this country want to bar all religious symbols from government property start with the currency!!

Is this separation of state and religion? If it is then what is a prayer hanging on a wall. She says it makes her feel like she does not belong. Perhaps the money should make her feel that she does not belong in America?

 

[bodecea]

Well?

Is Jessica Ahlquist an... "'Evil little thing' or defender of the constitution?" You decide but as for me I vote on the side of the seperation of church and state. You constitutionalists should also.







NYT: Atheist teen forces school to remove prayer - US news - The New York Times - msnbc.com

CRANSTON, R.I. She is 16, the daughter of a firefighter and a nurse, a self-proclaimed nerd who loves Harry Potter and Facebook. But Jessica Ahlquist is also an outspoken atheist who has incensed this heavily Roman Catholic city with a successful lawsuit to get a prayer removed from the wall of her high school auditorium, where it has hung for 49 years.

A federal judge ruled this month that the prayer’s presence at Cranston High School West was unconstitutional, concluding that it violated the principle of government neutrality in religion.

In the weeks since, residents have crowded school board meetings to demand an appeal, Jessica has received online threats and the police have escorted her at school, and Cranston, a dense city of 80,000 just south of Providence, has throbbed with raw emotion.

State Representative Peter G. Palumbo, a Democrat from Cranston, called Jessica “an evil little thing” on a popular talk radio show. Three separate florists refused to deliver her roses sent from a national atheist group. The group, the Freedom From Religion Foundation, has filed a complaint with the Rhode Island Commission for Human Rights...

Sure, no harassment of non-Christians in this country as long as they "know their place".

 

[bodecea]

To me this goes beyond the intent of the founding fathers. Articles of religion like the ten commandments on courthouses and this prayer (although being 8 feet high is a little overboard) do not infringe on that separation. If the people of this country want to bar all religious symbols from government property start with the currency!!

Is this separation of state and religion? If it is then what is a prayer hanging on a wall. She says it makes her feel like she does not belong. Perhaps the money should make her feel that she does not belong in America?

No problem taking that phrase off of money. It will spend just as well without it.

 

[kidrocks]

To me this goes beyond the intent of the founding fathers. Articles of religion like the ten commandments on courthouses and this prayer (although being 8 feet high is a little overboard) do not infringe on that separation. If the people of this country want to bar all religious symbols from government property start with the currency!!

Is this separation of state and religion? If it is then what is a prayer hanging on a wall. She says it makes her feel like she does not belong. Perhaps the money should make her feel that she does not belong in America?

What's "God" doing on the dollar bill anyway? Didn't god say that money is the root of all evil or something to that effect?

 

[California Girl]

Well?

Is Jessica Ahlquist an... "'Evil little thing' or defender of the constitution?" You decide but as for me I vote on the side of the seperation of church and state. You constitutionalists should also.







NYT: Atheist teen forces school to remove prayer - US news - The New York Times - msnbc.com

CRANSTON, R.I. She is 16, the daughter of a firefighter and a nurse, a self-proclaimed nerd who loves Harry Potter and Facebook. But Jessica Ahlquist is also an outspoken atheist who has incensed this heavily Roman Catholic city with a successful lawsuit to get a prayer removed from the wall of her high school auditorium, where it has hung for 49 years.

A federal judge ruled this month that the prayer’s presence at Cranston High School West was unconstitutional, concluding that it violated the principle of government neutrality in religion.

In the weeks since, residents have crowded school board meetings to demand an appeal, Jessica has received online threats and the police have escorted her at school, and Cranston, a dense city of 80,000 just south of Providence, has throbbed with raw emotion.

State Representative Peter G. Palumbo, a Democrat from Cranston, called Jessica “an evil little thing” on a popular talk radio show. Three separate florists refused to deliver her roses sent from a national atheist group. The group, the Freedom From Religion Foundation, has filed a complaint with the Rhode Island Commission for Human Rights...

Sure, no harassment of non-Christians in this country as long as they "know their place".

How exactly is a plaque with words on it 'harassment'?

 

[bodecea]

Well?

Is Jessica Ahlquist an... "'Evil little thing' or defender of the constitution?" You decide but as for me I vote on the side of the seperation of church and state. You constitutionalists should also.







NYT: Atheist teen forces school to remove prayer - US news - The New York Times - msnbc.com

CRANSTON, R.I. She is 16, the daughter of a firefighter and a nurse, a self-proclaimed nerd who loves Harry Potter and Facebook. But Jessica Ahlquist is also an outspoken atheist who has incensed this heavily Roman Catholic city with a successful lawsuit to get a prayer removed from the wall of her high school auditorium, where it has hung for 49 years.

A federal judge ruled this month that the prayer’s presence at Cranston High School West was unconstitutional, concluding that it violated the principle of government neutrality in religion.

In the weeks since, residents have crowded school board meetings to demand an appeal, Jessica has received online threats and the police have escorted her at school, and Cranston, a dense city of 80,000 just south of Providence, has throbbed with raw emotion.

State Representative Peter G. Palumbo, a Democrat from Cranston, called Jessica “an evil little thing” on a popular talk radio show. Three separate florists refused to deliver her roses sent from a national atheist group. The group, the Freedom From Religion Foundation, has filed a complaint with the Rhode Island Commission for Human Rights...

Sure, no harassment of non-Christians in this country as long as they "know their place".

How exactly is a plaque with words on it 'harassment'?

I am referring to how this girl is being reacted to.

 

[bodecea]

Waiting............

 

[California Girl]

Sure, no harassment of non-Christians in this country as long as they "know their place".

How exactly is a plaque with words on it 'harassment'?

I am referring to how this girl is being reacted to.

I personally think she's being a tad hysterical.... but 16 year olds are rarely the most rational people on earth. I just don't see the harm with a prayer on a wall.... and I would say the same thing if it was a quote from Karl Marx. It's words - no one should fear words. And words are free speech. Which I passionately defend.... even when those words offend me.

 

[California Girl]

As an entertaining aside.... My Dad has a sign on his desk... "In God we Trust - Everybody else pays cash".

Always makes me laugh.

Disclaimer: The mention of my Dad in relation to this topic does not give hacks like TruffMocker the right to drag my father or my family into her partisan bullshit.

 

[kidrocks]

Waiting............

For what?

 

[StevenC]

One preson complains about something and the courts bring out the twisted "seperation of Church and State" BS.

Here is the text. Tell me were it sayd seperation?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

From what I bolded it appears the courts are actually violating the Constitution with these rulings.

 

[bodecea]

Waiting............

For what?

Hopefully, we'll see. Still waiting.......

 

[StevenC]

I like this from the article.

For Jessica, who was baptized in the Catholic Church but said she stopped believing in God at age 10, the prayer was an affront. “It seemed like it was saying, every time I saw it, ‘You don’t belong here,’ ” she said the other night during an interview at a Starbucks here.


A friend brought the prayer to Jessica’s attention in 2010, when she was a high school freshman. She said nothing at first, but before long someone else — a parent who remained anonymous — filed a complaint with the American Civil Liberties Union.

She didn't even know about it before someone else told her about it. And then some ANONYMOUS twit brings a complaint.
So a small group of people get to decide an issue for the entire area?
And how is it saying she doesn't belong. I think the message is a good one wether you believe in God or not.

 

[kidrocks]

How exactly is a plaque with words on it 'harassment'?

I am referring to how this girl is being reacted to.

I personally think she's being a tad hysterical.... but 16 year olds are rarely the most rational people on earth. I just don't see the harm with a prayer on a wall.... and I would say the same thing if it was a quote from Karl Marx. It's words - no one should fear words. And words are free speech. Which I passionately defend.... even when those words offend me.

A blunt strike to the psyche can be just as unpleasant as a physical strike to the body. Mental abuse can be just as harmful as physical abuse when one is forced to tolerate.

 

[StevenC]

Sure, no harassment of non-Christians in this country as long as they "know their place".

How exactly is a plaque with words on it 'harassment'?

I am referring to how this girl is being reacted to.

Seems to me she is being treated with the same regard she is treating others.

 

[g5000]

What's "God" doing on the dollar bill anyway? Didn't god say that money is the root of all evil or something to that effect?

We are not Godless, that is why God is on the money.

God is an integral part of our nation. It was not the Founders' intent to banish God from public places. It was their intent not to have the religious laws which were unique to one sect become the law of the land.

And you should read Timothy 6:10 for the answer to your second question.


If I lived in a predominantly Muslim school district, I would not be shocked, surprised, or offended to discover a Muslim prayer on the wall of a school.

The little girl is being a dick. The plaque does not have the force of law.

 

[StevenC]

I am referring to how this girl is being reacted to.

I personally think she's being a tad hysterical.... but 16 year olds are rarely the most rational people on earth. I just don't see the harm with a prayer on a wall.... and I would say the same thing if it was a quote from Karl Marx. It's words - no one should fear words. And words are free speech. Which I passionately defend.... even when those words offend me.

A blunt strike to the psyche can be just as unpleasant as a physical strike to the body. Mental abuse can be just as harmful as physical abuse when one is forced to tolerate.

Who is being forced? Is she being held against her will in front of the sign and forced to read it. I say it is the community that is being forced to comply to the complaints of a small group.

 

[Truthmatters]

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