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Discussion in 'Energy' started by lehr, May 27, 2011.

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    the whole world drills for oil ---- amerika builds useless 10th. century wind mills
     
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    And we spend billions on high speed rail that will cost way more than advertised and will never ever be a paying proposition. And of course the solar panels that are made somewhere else. But God forbid we should drill more oil wells, or allow existing wells to reopen.
     
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    God forbid someone should tell you the sad truth. We have 3% of the world's reserves of petroleum, and use 24% of the world's production of oil. Now how do you propose to drill out of that fact?
     
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    Here's a thought, instead of improving on 10th century technology why not try exploiting the oil reserves under our control in the Gulf of Mexico instead of selling them to Russia and Venezuela? Why not create jobs and open a tiny portion of ANWAR to American companies instead of supporting (Soros invested) Brazil oil? Why in the world would an American president tell a foreign oil producer "we want to be your best costomer" while referring to the US Chamber of Commerce as a sinsiter tool of the GOP? I'll answer that. The "greenie" movement is a conglomerate of the burned out hippies, the modern idealistic ignorant yuppies and the political movement dedicated to the destruction of the United States as we know it. Democrats have prevented the US from being independent of foreign oil for decades. The radicals, the ignorant and the hypocrites complain that America is somehow "unfair" in it's energy consumption while they enjoy the benefits of the greatest Country in the world. There is no substitute for fossil fuel and the lefties who tell you that the US needs to be brought down to the level of a 3rd world country are fools and traitors.
     
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    the world will never run out of oil - as long as we have a molten core - the earth makes oil - oil is made by extreme pressure and extreme heat on plant life - it taked billions of years - but every day someplace under the earth it has reached a billion years - there is no such thing as "peak oil " - communist demokrats know oil makes amerika strong,,,that is why they refuse to drill for it

    " catastrophe " by chris ruddy

    " klinton gave 500,000 metric tons of oil to n. korea every year " p. 71 - he refused to drill for oil in alaska because he said it would take 10 yrs. to get to the lower 48 anyway = communist demokrats will use any excuse to destroy our economy - they want to re-build amerika arounf communism
     
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    First of all, about those high speed rail systems:

    “High-speed rail is good for society and it’s good for the environment, but it’s not a profitable business,” said Mr. Barrón of the International Union of Railways. He reckons that only two routes in the world — between Tokyo and Osaka, and between Paris and Lyon, France — have broken even.
    Spain’s High-Speed Rail Offers Guideposts for U.S. - NYTimes.com

    These things are money hogs, they take billions to run and maintain, the building costs are staggering, and they require a hell of a lot of power. Stupid idea for us, I think we'd have to install new tracks for it cuz what we got now won't support high speeds.

    Check this out:

    Sadly for rail advocates, these claims are largely bogus, says Cox, who believes that rail promoters ignore accounting principles:
    In some countries, government payments that would be called subsidies in the United States are called commercial revenues.
    In others, high speed rail operators operate over tracks owned by government infrastructure companies, which are likewise subsidized in some cases.
    Often, previous write-offs are not a part of the profit equation.
    The lack of transparency in accounting practices makes it difficult to make a judgment as to the level of profitability.
    Taiwan Today recently characterized the high-speed rail system as "loss-plagued" and noted it was in the process of seeking to restructure its debt.
    A principal problem was that less than 90,000 of the 275,000 daily riders projected to use the system bothered to buy tickets.
    The stations aren't full of turnstile-hopping commuters; the Taiwanese were either staying at home or using other forms of transportation.
    Projecting more passengers than show up is not unusual in high-speed rail, notes Cox:
    The Eurostar service from Paris to London attracts less than one-half of the ridership forecast five years ago and has required a government financial bailout.
    The new high-speed rail system in Korea is carrying little more than one-half the passengers originally projected.

    HIGH SPEED RAIL IS AN UNPROFITABLE TRAIN WRECK


    BTW, did you know that solar power company (SolarWorld) in Oregon you're so proud of? You know that company is based in Germany, right?


    I propose to increase our oil production and increase our oil shale and natural gas production. I'm okay with renewable sources of energy, but it's gotta be economically feasible, we can't be subsidizing everything, and we can't afford to be paying higher prices to heat or cool our homes. And I think nuclear power should still be on the table, if we can have nuclear powered subs why can't we have nuclear powered cities and towns? The price has gotta be right though, the big spending days are about over. One way or another.
     
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    Windmills are a joke. They had to rig a Cape Cod windmill to run only at a speed that didn't work because the vibration and the hummmmm was driving people crazy. Even at peak efficiency and brand new, windmills are a joke. Solar panels? It would take a football field of solar panels to keep a typical family comfortable. Our socialist president understands the politics behind "alternate" energy. That's why he hired a communist former leader of an arson and looting rampage to be on his "green jobs" panel. Bye the way, where are the "green jobs"?
     
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    Holy CRAP is this some epic fail.

    You know, it was Soviet scientists who first championed the "abiotic" oil theory. Why do you hate Amerika?
     

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