Do You Believe We Came From Monkeys?

If there was any BS, then the Bible would be disproven.
It has been. Literally every single detail of its moronic creation myth has been disproven, as much as anything can possibly be disproven.
I don't know what rock you've been hiding under but you obviously never read anything but comic books and watch Japanese Anime. The Bible has never been disproven in any way. Disputed maybe, but that is true of anything.
 
If there was any BS, then the Bible would be disproven.
It has been. Literally every single detail of its moronic creation myth has been disproven, as much as anything can possibly be disproven.
I don't know what rock you've been hiding under but you obviously never read anything but comic books and watch Japanese Anime. The Bible has never been disproven in any way. Disputed maybe, but that is true of anything.
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If there was any BS, then the Bible would be disproven.
It has been. Literally every single detail of its moronic creation myth has been disproven, as much as anything can possibly be disproven.
I don't know what rock you've been hiding under but you obviously never read anything but comic books and watch Japanese Anime. The Bible has never been disproven in any way. Disputed maybe, but that is true of anything.
OMG
Sorry, but I'm merely a disciple of Christ and not GOD.
 
The web is full of answers to your questions. Do some research on your own. Educate yourself, dingbat.

In other words, you can't answer his question. You just ASSume that it has been answered, by someone, somewhere, because you want to believe.

That's an awful lot of blind faith for someone deriding others for their faith.

My blind faith is backed up by lots of DNA and fossil evidence. What evidence is there for the Book of Genesis?

No, your blind faith is backed up by ASSUMPTIONS about the DNA and fossil evidence. The fossil record CANNOT prove evolution, unless you simply nip out the parts that don't suit you. Likewise with DNA. Both are "proof" only if you really, REALLY want to think they are.

There are a number of assertions about the way things work which the Bible makes, and which scientists rejected and derided for centuries, but which now appear to be validated, at least in part.

The Bible claims that the universe had a specific beginning.

What Is the Big Bang Theory?

You yourself have admitted that there is sufficient evidence, scientific and otherwise, to indicate that Noah's flood is based in reality. And the oldest writings archaeologists have found reference it.

Thus says the Lord, who gives the sun for light by day and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— Jeremiah 31:35

I assume I don't have to prove to you that the moon and the stars have fixed, predictable paths.

And let's look at archaeology, shall we? A hundred years ago, Bible critics were telling us that the Hittites were a Biblical fiction, a made-up group of people who existed only in stories. And then archaeologists in Turkey discovered the ruins of Hattusas, and historical records showing an empire in the second millennium BC . . . about where the Bible said they were.

The Code of Hammurabi and the Nuzi tablets both show remarkable resemblances to the Semitic laws given in the first five books of the Bible.

The various peoples mentioned in the Bible have turned up in other archaeological references. The Philistines are on the Temple of Rameses III at Thebes, c. 1150 BC. Their five cities mentioned in the Bible - Ashkelon, Ashdod, Gaza, Gath, and Ekron - have all been excavated or even exist as cities today.
Ah yes...the "Alamo" of magical thinkers like you:

Lacking any good argument of evidence for any of your magical bullshit, and lacking any good evidence or argument to counter scientific knowledge whochjndermines your magical bullshit, you are left with only one option:

You attempt to drag scientific knowledge down into the muck of your magical bullshit by labelling it "faith".

What an embarrassing display....

If there was any BS, then the Bible would be disproven. The Resurrection would've been disproven. It has withstood the test of time. The Bible is inerrant, accurate, authoritative, true and complete.

LOL- how can you 'disprove' a book of fairy tales? How can I disprove Aesops fables?

How can I disprove Jesus's resurrection any more than i can disprove that that Athena was not born from the head of Zeus?

I am certain that the Bible is 'authoritative' to you- but certainly isn't to billions of other human beings.

As far as 'accurate'- there are some accuracies- hell bound to get something right- but plenty of inaccuracies.

I find it fascinating to watch the Christian cultists who insist that every word in the Bible is correct dance to rationalize around what is clearly just flat out false.

All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground. Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper. But all other winged creatures that have four legs you are to detest

Insects have 6 legs
 
In other words, you can't answer his question. You just ASSume that it has been answered, by someone, somewhere, because you want to believe.

That's an awful lot of blind faith for someone deriding others for their faith.

My blind faith is backed up by lots of DNA and fossil evidence. What evidence is there for the Book of Genesis?

No, your blind faith is backed up by ASSUMPTIONS about the DNA and fossil evidence. The fossil record CANNOT prove evolution, unless you simply nip out the parts that don't suit you. Likewise with DNA. Both are "proof" only if you really, REALLY want to think they are.

There are a number of assertions about the way things work which the Bible makes, and which scientists rejected and derided for centuries, but which now appear to be validated, at least in part.

The Bible claims that the universe had a specific beginning.

What Is the Big Bang Theory?

You yourself have admitted that there is sufficient evidence, scientific and otherwise, to indicate that Noah's flood is based in reality. And the oldest writings archaeologists have found reference it.

Thus says the Lord, who gives the sun for light by day and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— Jeremiah 31:35

I assume I don't have to prove to you that the moon and the stars have fixed, predictable paths.

Really want to go with the Bible and the sun and the moon and the stars?

And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

So according to the Bible- God created earth- and light- the first day- where did that light come from?


6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

And I guess God created the atmosphere on the second day

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

And apparently when the earth was first created there was no sea or ground- but on the third day he created 'land and 'seas'


11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

And here is where it gets really interesting- on the third day he created all of the plants of the world- and evening and morning

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

Okay on the fourth day God created the Sun and the Moon. - and the stars.
So the order is:
a) Earth
b) Day/Night
c) Vegetation
d) Sun/moon

So- how did we have a day and night without a sun? How did the vegetation survives the absolute zero temperatures on earth without any sun being in existence?

Nothing but crickets from our 'Creationists'.

lol

So according to the Bible- God created earth- and light- the first day- where did that light come from?

First day light came from EMS..

EMS? Emergency Medical System?
 
In other words, you can't answer his question. You just ASSume that it has been answered, by someone, somewhere, because you want to believe.

That's an awful lot of blind faith for someone deriding others for their faith.

My blind faith is backed up by lots of DNA and fossil evidence. What evidence is there for the Book of Genesis?

No, your blind faith is backed up by ASSUMPTIONS about the DNA and fossil evidence. The fossil record CANNOT prove evolution, unless you simply nip out the parts that don't suit you. Likewise with DNA. Both are "proof" only if you really, REALLY want to think they are.

There are a number of assertions about the way things work which the Bible makes, and which scientists rejected and derided for centuries, but which now appear to be validated, at least in part.

The Bible claims that the universe had a specific beginning.

What Is the Big Bang Theory?

You yourself have admitted that there is sufficient evidence, scientific and otherwise, to indicate that Noah's flood is based in reality. And the oldest writings archaeologists have found reference it.

Thus says the Lord, who gives the sun for light by day and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— Jeremiah 31:35

I assume I don't have to prove to you that the moon and the stars have fixed, predictable paths.

Really want to go with the Bible and the sun and the moon and the stars?

And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

So according to the Bible- God created earth- and light- the first day- where did that light come from?


6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

And I guess God created the atmosphere on the second day

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

And apparently when the earth was first created there was no sea or ground- but on the third day he created 'land and 'seas'


11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

And here is where it gets really interesting- on the third day he created all of the plants of the world- and evening and morning

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

Okay on the fourth day God created the Sun and the Moon. - and the stars.
So the order is:
a) Earth
b) Day/Night
c) Vegetation
d) Sun/moon

So- how did we have a day and night without a sun? How did the vegetation survives the absolute zero temperatures on earth without any sun being in existence?

Nothing but crickets from our 'Creationists'.

lol

So according to the Bible- God created earth- and light- the first day- where did that light come from?

First day light came from EMS.

And I guess God created the atmosphere on the second day

Correct.

And apparently when the earth was first created there was no sea or ground- but on the third day he created 'land and 'seas'

The Earth was covered with water vapor and water. This was the first day. He pulled the water back to have dry land and plants and seas on the third day..

I went back and checked- Here is the quote again- where is the reference to 'water vapor'?

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.


3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.


6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.


9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
 
In other words, you can't answer his question. You just ASSume that it has been answered, by someone, somewhere, because you want to believe.

That's an awful lot of blind faith for someone deriding others for their faith.

My blind faith is backed up by lots of DNA and fossil evidence. What evidence is there for the Book of Genesis?

No, your blind faith is backed up by ASSUMPTIONS about the DNA and fossil evidence. The fossil record CANNOT prove evolution, unless you simply nip out the parts that don't suit you. Likewise with DNA. Both are "proof" only if you really, REALLY want to think they are.

There are a number of assertions about the way things work which the Bible makes, and which scientists rejected and derided for centuries, but which now appear to be validated, at least in part.

The Bible claims that the universe had a specific beginning.

What Is the Big Bang Theory?

You yourself have admitted that there is sufficient evidence, scientific and otherwise, to indicate that Noah's flood is based in reality. And the oldest writings archaeologists have found reference it.

Thus says the Lord, who gives the sun for light by day and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— Jeremiah 31:35

I assume I don't have to prove to you that the moon and the stars have fixed, predictable paths.

Really want to go with the Bible and the sun and the moon and the stars?

And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

So according to the Bible- God created earth- and light- the first day- where did that light come from?


6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

And I guess God created the atmosphere on the second day

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

And apparently when the earth was first created there was no sea or ground- but on the third day he created 'land and 'seas'


11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

And here is where it gets really interesting- on the third day he created all of the plants of the world- and evening and morning

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

Okay on the fourth day God created the Sun and the Moon. - and the stars.
So the order is:
a) Earth
b) Day/Night
c) Vegetation
d) Sun/moon

So- how did we have a day and night without a sun? How did the vegetation survives the absolute zero temperatures on earth without any sun being in existence?

Nothing but crickets from our 'Creationists'.

lol

So according to the Bible- God created earth- and light- the first day- where did that light come from?

First day light came from EMS.

And I guess God created the atmosphere on the second day

Correct.

And apparently when the earth was first created there was no sea or ground- but on the third day he created 'land and 'seas'

The Earth was covered with water vapor and water. This was the first day. He pulled the water back to have dry land and plants and seas on the third day.

And here is where it gets really interesting- on the third day he created all of the plants of the world- and evening and morning

Day and night was created on the first day. Plants was on the third day.
Okay on the fourth day God created the Sun and the Moon. - and the stars.
So the order is:
a) Earth
b) Day/Night
c) Vegetation
d) Sun/moon

So- how did we have a day and night without a sun? How did the vegetation survives the absolute zero temperatures on earth without any sun being in existence?
 
Doesn't it fit the Bible timeline of Noah's ancestors?
No, it doesn't. Like, not at all. You clearly do not understand any of this. The world would still have been populated , worlwide, with humans. In fact, the research depends on it.

As it clearly states in the study -- which you clearly regurgitated from some goofy YEC site, and of which you clearly did not read a single word, -- that the results are dependent upon the data of all the people that lived in the last 20,000 years. It also says that the same methods can be used to work backwards, that is, into the future. What this means is that all of the people 2000 or 3000 years from now will be descended from most of us. But but but look around! No flood, no Noah, no population bottleneck.

So, no, the study does not imply anything like what you are saying at all. In fact, it implies exactly the opposite. Just stop.

You're one of the most f*cking dumb*ss posters I've ever witnessed. You are one who does not understand the Bible nor science. There is a lesson to be taught here..

First, it fits the timeline because science backs up the Bible.

The lesson is that you have no idea what the study says- or what science is- all you have are insults to those who point out your idiocy.

There is nothing- absolutely nothing- about that study which supports anything in the Bible.

Nor is there any 'science' which supports the Biblical myth of the creation of earth, or the either of the Biblical myths about the creation of mankind.

Why don't you criticize Fort Fun Indiana? I've known him longer than you so he gets my usual wrath and substance. He usually just has wrath and no substance.

As for the study, Fort Fun Indiana does not explain in his own words. He just dances around it. Who knows what he is talking about? Can you do better and explain it in your own words?

Why should I criticize him?
 
There is a great deal more scientific evidence than there is evidence to support the story of Genesis. I think the Bible is a wonderful book and has a great deal of good in it about caring and charity and living a good life. But I don't take Genesis literally. I'm a science geek and I believe the science. And I don't believe I've ever claimed anything as fact.

I think people have a misconception of science. What is fact is the evidence (unless it's been doctored or is misinterpreted as evidence). We derive science based on our observations, beliefs and worldviews. In other words, science and religion are both sides of the same coin. It's about what is the truth..

We derive science from our observations, from experimentation and from the facts.

The difference between science and 'religion'- by which you really mean Christianity- and not just Christianity but that bizarre branch of Christianity which insists that the Bible must be literally true- is that science starts from a position that we do not know everything- and will never know everything, but we can continually learn from everything.

Creationists like yourself believe that everything in the Bible must be correct- and look to 'science' just as a tool to justify your beliefs.

The difference between yourself and myself- is if 'science' tomorrow came up with strong evidence that the world was indeed formed in less than a week- and that earth actually was created before the sun- I would go with the evidence.

You will always go with the Bible- not the evidence.

No we do not look to science to justify our beliefs. To the contrary, we find science honors the work of God. If you could have an open mind and see how great God's works is, then you'd have faith. Faith is the first step to understanding. Not the other way around. We see that science backs up the Bible, and thus we build faith upon the inerrancy of the Bible.

As for going by the evidence, evolution is based on fitting the evidence to the theory. Not the other way around. .

Sigh- doesn't your Bible say something disapproving about bearing false witness?

In Darwin's first publication about 'evolution', he based the theory on the evidence he had observed.

Since then science has tested the theory he proposed- and mostly it has been correct- but sure- Darwin got some stuff wrong- and guess what- when the evidence doesn't fit the theory- then the theory then has to be corrected- and is.

The difference between science and your belief in the Bible is conveyed by your own words:

The Bible is inerrant, accurate, authoritative, true and complete.

No scientists will ever say that about any scientific theory or anything else about science- because science assumes that we do not know everything about science- while you presume that the Bible is inerrant, accurate, auuthoritative, true and complete.

Since it is 'complete'- you look only for what validates what you consider to be 'Biblical'- not for answers.
 
The Bible has never been disproven in any way
You are embarrassing yourself.
Has Science Disproved God?
Stop trying to change the subject. Those charlatan tactics are for fooling people in church and for fooling children. They won't work here.
I'm Not... I trying to point out that you are neither the son of a monkey or an ape --- even if you maybe look and act the part. The biggest fool is the one who doesn't see GOD in anything --- including himself.
 
There is a great deal more scientific evidence than there is evidence to support the story of Genesis. I think the Bible is a wonderful book and has a great deal of good in it about caring and charity and living a good life. But I don't take Genesis literally. I'm a science geek and I believe the science. And I don't believe I've ever claimed anything as fact.

I think people have a misconception of science. What is fact is the evidence (unless it's been doctored or is misinterpreted as evidence). We derive science based on our observations, beliefs and worldviews. In other words, science and religion are both sides of the same coin. It's about what is the truth..

We derive science from our observations, from experimentation and from the facts.

The difference between science and 'religion'- by which you really mean Christianity- and not just Christianity but that bizarre branch of Christianity which insists that the Bible must be literally true- is that science starts from a position that we do not know everything- and will never know everything, but we can continually learn from everything.

Creationists like yourself believe that everything in the Bible must be correct- and look to 'science' just as a tool to justify your beliefs.

The difference between yourself and myself- is if 'science' tomorrow came up with strong evidence that the world was indeed formed in less than a week- and that earth actually was created before the sun- I would go with the evidence.

You will always go with the Bible- not the evidence.

No we do not look to science to justify our beliefs. To the contrary, we find science honors the work of God. If you could have an open mind and see how great God's works is, then you'd have faith. Faith is the first step to understanding. Not the other way around. We see that science backs up the Bible, and thus we build faith upon the inerrancy of the Bible.

As for going by the evidence, evolution is based on fitting the evidence to the theory. Not the other way around. .

Sigh- doesn't your Bible say something disapproving about bearing false witness?

In Darwin's first publication about 'evolution', he based the theory on the evidence he had observed.

Since then science has tested the theory he proposed- and mostly it has been correct- but sure- Darwin got some stuff wrong- and guess what- when the evidence doesn't fit the theory- then the theory then has to be corrected- and is.

The difference between science and your belief in the Bible is conveyed by your own words:

The Bible is inerrant, accurate, authoritative, true and complete.

No scientists will ever say that about any scientific theory or anything else about science- because science assumes that we do not know everything about science- while you presume that the Bible is inerrant, accurate, auuthoritative, true and complete.

Since it is 'complete'- you look only for what validates what you consider to be 'Biblical'- not for answers.
A scientist doesn't consider himself GOD --------------- HOPEFULLY. The problem is that evolutionists do not try to validate that GOD doesn't exist and they seem incapable of generating a new species. Seriously, they believe all the species developed randomly on their own ---- but with thoughtful prodding and tinkering over many decades, they have nothing ---- no new separate species... Dogs remain dogs. Cats remain cats. And even woolly mammoths and saber tooth tigers seem superior to what we now have. But the tiger is still a tiger. Or could a tiger become a saber tooth if he lived 400 years or 600 years... Can you prove that they wouldn't? The sad issue is that I don't imagine you even care..................
 
If there was any BS, then the Bible would be disproven.
It has been. Literally every single detail of its moronic creation myth has been disproven, as much as anything can possibly be disproven.

Then you lie. You are so far from what Jesus taught. Remember that people had these same reactions during his time as you do now. We had evolution back then, too, in terms of Epicureans and the Stoics.
 
If there was any BS, then the Bible would be disproven.
It has been. Literally every single detail of its moronic creation myth has been disproven, as much as anything can possibly be disproven.
I don't know what rock you've been hiding under but you obviously never read anything but comic books and watch Japanese Anime. The Bible has never been disproven in any way. Disputed maybe, but that is true of anything.
OMG

It's not just OMG, but about the afterlife. I think what's been strongly argued against is that humans evolved from monkeys.

This isn't all there is and all there will be. It's kinda silly to work all your life to attain your rewards and not be able to take it with you when you die.
 

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