Do You Believe We Came From Monkeys?

[LittleNipper]

I trying to point out that you are neither the son of a monkey or an ape ---

Which is moronic of you to say in a discussion of evolution, since nobody claimed or believes that. So, basically, you have absolutely nothing of value to add.

They are saying exactly that. YOU are the end product of evolution up from the slime.Your grandfather 50,75,100, 100 times removed was some animal. You are an animal. Don't play naive on me. You believe you are the end product of apes in you past linage..What you value has no value.

 

[TomParks]

I can’t believe human beings think they came from apes and monkeys haha.....God made the heavens and the earth, all the creatures on the earth, and man period.

 

[Cecilie1200]

If there was any BS, then the Bible would be disproven.

It has been. Literally every single detail of its moronic creation myth has been disproven, as much as anything can possibly be disproven.

Of course, by "disproven" you mean "derided and insulted by atheist twits with no actual evidence involved".

 

[Cecilie1200]

The Bible has never been disproven in any way

You are embarrassing yourself.

Has Science Disproved God?

Has science proved God?

Do things not exist prior to "being proven by science"?

 

[Cecilie1200]

The Bible has never been disproven in any way

You are embarrassing yourself.

Has Science Disproved God?

Has science proved God?

Science just has best theories. Not proofs. Creation science has some great theories about God.

LOL, the Bible offers no proof of anything.

Probably because it's not a textbook, and "offering proof" is not its job. Is it your position that anything which is NOT a textbook and tasked specifically with "offering proof" is, by definition, false?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Tell me all about these:
But all other winged creatures that have four legs you are to detest

What are the winged creatures that have four legs?
Bats? 2 legs
Birds? 2 legs
Insects? 6 legs

This is what we should expect from a bunch of illterate, science-ignorant people.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They are saying exactly that

You are a shameless little liar. They are not, and you know that they arent.

 

[Syriusly]

I trying to point out that you are neither the son of a monkey or an ape ---

Which is moronic of you to say in a discussion of evolution, since nobody claimed or believes that. So, basically, you have absolutely nothing of value to add.

They are saying exactly that. YOU are the end product of evolution up from the slime.Your grandfather 50,75,100, 100 times removed was some animal. You are an animal. Don't play naive on me. You believe you are the end product of apes in you past linage..What you value has no value.

You believe you were created by some fairy in the sky.

What you value are fairy tales.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Probably because it's not a textbook, and "offering proof" is not its job

This is so weird. Sometimes, you freely admit that what you have is faith. Other times, you act embarrassed of your faith and you do that goofy thing where you try to equate it to actual knowledge.

 

[Syriusly]

Is Darwinism indeed scientific fact or a belief based on naturalism 9 Scientific Facts Prove the "Theory of Evolution" is False | Humans Are Free

'Darwinism'? LOL

The Theory of Evolution is a theory that best fits the evidence we have.

Christian creation beliefs are myths that do not fit any of the evidence we have.

The FLOOD is not a myth. Sodom and Gomorrah is not a Myth. Nebekenezer is not a myth. Joseph in Egypt is not a myth.The birth of Jesus is not a myth. GOD is not a myth. He is very real. Evolution doesn't fit who we are and what we are.

Floods are not a myth.

A flood that covered the Himilayas and the entire earth 4,000 years ago is a myth.
Sodom and Gomorrah might have existed as towns- but their is no evidence that any god murdered all of the men, women and children of Sodom and Gomorroah as in your myth.
Likely there were many Jesus's born in Palestine and surrounding areas- but there is no evidence that any of them performed any miracles or came back to life.

But most importantly of all- for you literalists- everything about Genesis one is contradicted by what we know from science.

Which is why you want to stay away from Genesis 1

 

[Syriusly]

Has science proved God?

Science just has best theories. Not proofs. Creation science has some great theories about God.

LOL, the Bible offers no proof of anything.

You're wrong. So very blindly wrong. The Bible clearly demonstrates with examples that various kinds of behavior bring about specific repercussions. Over and over and over the Bible clearly shows to anyone who will read it, that if you do this there is the strong likelihood that this will happen. And if one does that there is the strong likelihood that that will happen. It's not sometimes it happens or in this one case it happened. It will happen That should prove GOD exists. Random meaningless possibilities would indicate chance. Mere chance is proof that the is no GOD. But destiny is the revelation that GOD is a reality. There can be no destiny without HIM!

LOL- you are welcome to believe your fairy tales- but nothing there has anything to do with science or facts.

Nothing to laugh at. More people today are choosing suicide and mass shootings because they are in despair. Despair is the result of rejecting GOD.

If your faith brings you comfort and prevents you from committing suicide- then obviously your faith is right for you.

Just don't tell me that it has anything to do with science.

 

[Syriusly]

Really want to go with the Bible and the sun and the moon and the stars?

And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

So according to the Bible- God created earth- and light- the first day- where did that light come from?

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

And I guess God created the atmosphere on the second day

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

And apparently when the earth was first created there was no sea or ground- but on the third day he created 'land and 'seas'

11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

And here is where it gets really interesting- on the third day he created all of the plants of the world- and evening and morning

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

Okay on the fourth day God created the Sun and the Moon. - and the stars.
So the order is:
a) Earth
b) Day/Night
c) Vegetation
d) Sun/moon

So- how did we have a day and night without a sun? How did the vegetation survives the absolute zero temperatures on earth without any sun being in existence?

Nothing but crickets from our 'Creationists'.

lol

So according to the Bible- God created earth- and light- the first day- where did that light come from?

First day light came from EMS.

And I guess God created the atmosphere on the second day

Correct.

And apparently when the earth was first created there was no sea or ground- but on the third day he created 'land and 'seas'

The Earth was covered with water vapor and water. This was the first day. He pulled the water back to have dry land and plants and seas on the third day..

I went back and checked- Here is the quote again- where is the reference to 'water vapor'?

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.


3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.


6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.


9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

Nothing but crickets from the CreatoChristian cultists.

What is your point? The description is right under your nose.

My point is that nowhere in Genesis does it mention 'water vapor'

 

[Syriusly]

It has been. Literally every single detail of its moronic creation myth has been disproven, as much as anything can possibly be disproven.

I don't know what rock you've been hiding under but you obviously never read anything but comic books and watch Japanese Anime. The Bible has never been disproven in any way. Disputed maybe, but that is true of anything.

OMG

It's not just OMG, but about the afterlife. I think what's been strongly argued against is that humans evolved from monkeys.].

Feel free to believe in an afterlife. I certainly don't care- science will never be able to 'disprove' that it exists- but it isn't science to believe in it- it is faith.

Everyone argues against humans evolving from monkeys- both you CreatoChristian cultists- and those who believe in science.

No one- no one is arguing that humans evolved from monkeys.

And you believe that we came from monkeys based on faith. .

Since I just said that no one is arguing that 'we' - humans came from monkeys- I guess you are going to hell for lying now.....oh wait- your loving god will forgive you your lies since you do so to glorify him......

 

[LittleNipper]

Tell me all about these:
But all other winged creatures that have four legs you are to detest

What are the winged creatures that have four legs?
Bats? 2 legs
Birds? 2 legs
Insects? 6 legs

This is what we should expect from a bunch of illterate, science-ignorant people.

Do you have 4 legs or 2? Some seemingly unobservant scientist trying to oversimplify things said, "It's only an insect, all its appendages can be called legs." However, have you ever watched a common housefly grooming itself? It uses its 2 front appendages as you would your arms and hands. Look at the Praying Manius. Use your common sense. The Biblical insight is far more ancient and is far more accurately descriptive. I had some person one time badger me that dinosaur is not mentioned in the Bible. Well that word wasn't invented until nearly the middle of the 19th century. Behemoth and Leviathan are in the Bible... And so is dragon.

 

[james bond]

My blind faith is backed up by lots of DNA and fossil evidence. What evidence is there for the Book of Genesis?

No, your blind faith is backed up by ASSUMPTIONS about the DNA and fossil evidence. The fossil record CANNOT prove evolution, unless you simply nip out the parts that don't suit you. Likewise with DNA. Both are "proof" only if you really, REALLY want to think they are.

There are a number of assertions about the way things work which the Bible makes, and which scientists rejected and derided for centuries, but which now appear to be validated, at least in part.

The Bible claims that the universe had a specific beginning.

What Is the Big Bang Theory?

You yourself have admitted that there is sufficient evidence, scientific and otherwise, to indicate that Noah's flood is based in reality. And the oldest writings archaeologists have found reference it.

Thus says the Lord, who gives the sun for light by day and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— Jeremiah 31:35

I assume I don't have to prove to you that the moon and the stars have fixed, predictable paths.

Really want to go with the Bible and the sun and the moon and the stars?

And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

So according to the Bible- God created earth- and light- the first day- where did that light come from?

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

And I guess God created the atmosphere on the second day

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

And apparently when the earth was first created there was no sea or ground- but on the third day he created 'land and 'seas'

11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

And here is where it gets really interesting- on the third day he created all of the plants of the world- and evening and morning

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

Okay on the fourth day God created the Sun and the Moon. - and the stars.
So the order is:
a) Earth
b) Day/Night
c) Vegetation
d) Sun/moon

So- how did we have a day and night without a sun? How did the vegetation survives the absolute zero temperatures on earth without any sun being in existence?

Nothing but crickets from our 'Creationists'.

lol

So according to the Bible- God created earth- and light- the first day- where did that light come from?

First day light came from EMS.

And I guess God created the atmosphere on the second day

Correct.

And apparently when the earth was first created there was no sea or ground- but on the third day he created 'land and 'seas'

The Earth was covered with water vapor and water. This was the first day. He pulled the water back to have dry land and plants and seas on the third day.

And here is where it gets really interesting- on the third day he created all of the plants of the world- and evening and morning

Day and night was created on the first day. Plants was on the third day.

Okay on the fourth day God created the Sun and the Moon. - and the stars.
So the order is:
a) Earth
b) Day/Night
c) Vegetation
d) Sun/moon

So- how did we have a day and night without a sun? How did the vegetation survives the absolute zero temperatures on earth without any sun being in existence?

You're using uniformitarianism. We had separation of light and dark. The way you envision night and day didn't happen until the sun, moon, stars and planets were created. Which is more believable? Evolutionary processes, the Big Bang, formed the universe from invisible particles and all these stars, suns, moons and planets just expanded out. And there was no intelligent design involved with the Earth just being in the right place and distance away from the sun or else it wouldn't thrive. And all the fine tuning facts had to be met.

 

[james bond]

No, your blind faith is backed up by ASSUMPTIONS about the DNA and fossil evidence. The fossil record CANNOT prove evolution, unless you simply nip out the parts that don't suit you. Likewise with DNA. Both are "proof" only if you really, REALLY want to think they are.

There are a number of assertions about the way things work which the Bible makes, and which scientists rejected and derided for centuries, but which now appear to be validated, at least in part.

The Bible claims that the universe had a specific beginning.

What Is the Big Bang Theory?

You yourself have admitted that there is sufficient evidence, scientific and otherwise, to indicate that Noah's flood is based in reality. And the oldest writings archaeologists have found reference it.

Thus says the Lord, who gives the sun for light by day and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— Jeremiah 31:35

I assume I don't have to prove to you that the moon and the stars have fixed, predictable paths.

And let's look at archaeology, shall we? A hundred years ago, Bible critics were telling us that the Hittites were a Biblical fiction, a made-up group of people who existed only in stories. And then archaeologists in Turkey discovered the ruins of Hattusas, and historical records showing an empire in the second millennium BC . . . about where the Bible said they were.

The Code of Hammurabi and the Nuzi tablets both show remarkable resemblances to the Semitic laws given in the first five books of the Bible.

The various peoples mentioned in the Bible have turned up in other archaeological references. The Philistines are on the Temple of Rameses III at Thebes, c. 1150 BC. Their five cities mentioned in the Bible - Ashkelon, Ashdod, Gaza, Gath, and Ekron - have all been excavated or even exist as cities today.

Ah yes...the "Alamo" of magical thinkers like you:

Lacking any good argument of evidence for any of your magical bullshit, and lacking any good evidence or argument to counter scientific knowledge whochjndermines your magical bullshit, you are left with only one option:

You attempt to drag scientific knowledge down into the muck of your magical bullshit by labelling it "faith".

What an embarrassing display....

If there was any BS, then the Bible would be disproven. The Resurrection would've been disproven. It has withstood the test of time. The Bible is inerrant, accurate, authoritative, true and complete.

LOL- how can you 'disprove' a book of fairy tales? How can I disprove Aesops fables?

How can I disprove Jesus's resurrection any more than i can disprove that that Athena was not born from the head of Zeus?

I am certain that the Bible is 'authoritative' to you- but certainly isn't to billions of other human beings.

As far as 'accurate'- there are some accuracies- hell bound to get something right- but plenty of inaccuracies.

I find it fascinating to watch the Christian cultists who insist that every word in the Bible is correct dance to rationalize around what is clearly just flat out false.

All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground. Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper. But all other winged creatures that have four legs you are to detest

Insects have 6 legs

We're not talking about Aesop's fables, but the Bible. What historical event which you consider "story" from there do want to discuss? There are parables in there that Christ Jesus used to teach which are stories.

You're referring to Leviticus 11:20-21 "All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground. Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper.
Flying insects that walk on all fours would refer to for example the grasshopper as stated.



We see that it has six legs, but the two hind legs aren't considered for walking but hopping as stated. It walks on the four front legs.

Tell me all about these:
But all other winged creatures that have four legs you are to detest

What are the winged creatures that have four legs?
Bats? 2 legs
Birds? 2 legs
Insects? 6 legs

God is warning us not to eat bats. It walks on fours. You learn something new every day. I didn't know how they walked.



Are you and Fort Fun Indiana prepared to go to hell now?

 

[james bond]

Nothing but crickets from our 'Creationists'.

lol

So according to the Bible- God created earth- and light- the first day- where did that light come from?

First day light came from EMS.

And I guess God created the atmosphere on the second day

Correct.

And apparently when the earth was first created there was no sea or ground- but on the third day he created 'land and 'seas'

The Earth was covered with water vapor and water. This was the first day. He pulled the water back to have dry land and plants and seas on the third day..

I went back and checked- Here is the quote again- where is the reference to 'water vapor'?

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.


3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.


6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.


9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

Nothing but crickets from the CreatoChristian cultists.

What is your point? The description is right under your nose.

My point is that nowhere in Genesis does it mention 'water vapor'

That's because you can't figure stuff out like I can. Been telling you this for some time now. I was giving you a chance to figure it out. The EMS produces heat. God created this watery substance and the heat liquidifies the substance and produces water vapors. We learn the Holy Spirit helped create this.

 

[james bond]

Fort Fun Indiana Let's do a game. Since you believe the Bible is full of myths, then you should just ignore the warning the God said to NOT eat bats. Why don't you have one for dinner tomorrow? I'll gladly pay for it.

"Certain bats are now suspected of causing some of the world’s most feared diseases. And all the trouble started because some people, rather than leave them alone, eat them.

Australian researchers Lin-Fa Wang and Hugh Field have found that horseshoe bats are the likely natural reservoir of the deadly SARS virus that struck southern China in 2002, killing over 700 people and sickening thousands. Originally, a SARS-like virus was found in an animal called the palm civet (a cousin to the “source” of Luak Coffee). When this turned out to be a red herring, Wang and Field placed their bets on bats. Sure enough, SARS-like viruses and antibodies against them showed up in a whole lotta bats, and the finding has been repeated by others around the world.

The duo had good reasons to suspect our flying friends. Bats had already been found to harbor the nasty Hendra and Neepa viruses. And bats have so many disease-harboring and -spreading talents that researcher Kathryn Holmes calls them “magnificent vectors”. They’re more closely related to humans than you might think (some classify them as primates). They are relatively long lived, a potentially stable home. They huddle together during the day, sneezing and coughing on each other and spreading viruses around, even to other bat species. Then at night, they spread out for miles, potentially spreading disease far and wide. Some even think they can carry diseases without getting very sick themselves. Yikes."

The Hazards of Eating Bats

 

[RWS]

Yes, we're all related due to evolution!

Had God Created Spontaneous Creation, we would not share those similar genetic traits.

You and I are not related and we have 99% similar DNA and 1% difference. The 1% is enough to show no relationship.

Heck yes we are related. As much as we argue, you are me. And I am you. Had God created everything spontaneously, we would have much different variations in our DNA.

Makin me superior of course....

No, my point was to show that even though we have similar DNA, out immediate families aren't related. As for what you are referring to, God didn't create us all spontaneiously. We came from a common ancestor of humans, Adam and Eve. Who is the common ancestor in your explanation?

I'm sorry but I have no idea what you were trying to say there.

Did God create life spontaneously or through evolution? And if evolution, did he create Adam an Eve spontaneously, and their offspring are the humans today?

And if so, why are some people different colors?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Tell me all about these:
But all other winged creatures that have four legs you are to detest

What are the winged creatures that have four legs?
Bats? 2 legs
Birds? 2 legs
Insects? 6 legs

This is what we should expect from a bunch of illterate, science-ignorant people.

Do you have 4 legs or 2? Some seemingly unobservant scientist trying to oversimplify things said, "It's only an insect, all its appendages can be called legs." However, have you ever watched a common housefly grooming itself? It uses its 2 front appendages as you would your arms and hands. Look at the Praying Manius. Use your common sense. The Biblical insight is far more ancient and is far more accurately descriptive. I had some person one time badger me that dinosaur is not mentioned in the Bible. Well that word wasn't invented until nearly the middle of the 19th century. Behemoth and Leviathan are in the Bible... And so is dragon.

Haha, look at the mental gymnastics you are forced to perform to fit your square book of fantasy into the round hole 9f modern science. Just stop, you are embarrassing yourself.