Divided, We Stand?

[Rustic]

You’re right, it is a sad state we are in. Politics is almost entirely about winning elections and dirty campaigning unfortunately has proven to be the most effective tactic. We the people have become drama hungry puppets being fed by trolls. Don’t know how it changes but I hope something can change our course

It begins in places just like this. We may post because we won't to change hearts and mind but what we really do is build walls between us such that the opposition hears only what confirms their position. What we should be doing is creating threads that are more neutral where ideas can be shared and agreements can be reached. And secondly, we should use techniques that actually work. Calling someone a stupid idiot will never change their opinion and will just derail the thread.

Do discussions on USMB of race, religion, abortion, climate change, illegal immigration, etc change the minds of the opposition? I think not and that's because posters are far more interesting in stating their own opinion than actually changing the opinions of others.

I read much, much more than I post. And I'm not looking for evidence of my opinion, I read both sides.

I don't think I've had any of my opinions or beliefs reversed, but you can gain a bit of understanding of the opposing viewpoints and that's important too.

That is typical of people who don't post that often. People that post often usually have very strong opinions and seek information that bolsters their opinion. Most of them aren't interested in changing the opinion of others because they use rhetoric that polarizes opinion.

Lol
That’s the difference between me and people like me, I’m not trying to convince you and your socialist friends of anything. But socialist constantly have to force people into their...

 

[Mac1958]

We have centuries of proof that socialism does not work for the good of any society. Why continue the insanity of trying the same thing over and over again expecting different results?

I don't know what you mean by "socialism".

The word has been so over-used that it now means nothing. Or anything.
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[Rustic]

How many stars in the American flag?

Fifty, you say? I'm not sure. If there were fifty, then citizens of liberal states and conservative states would join in common purpose on the blue field which is, after all, called, "the union."

Instead, it seems, we are recklessly tugging at the thread that holds us together. Today, liberals and conservatives barricade themselves in digital citadels where some media, with calculated bias, assure their viewers that what they already believe is correct. If we wall ourselves in castles of confirming information, I fear a new Cold War. This time, a cold civil war.

Given this danger, why do both parties promote almost nothing but divisive scandals? Because it is so much easier than health insurance or immigration reform. Taking on actual challenges would require work, and listening, and thought, and union.

"Divided, we stand"? Scott Pelley on our American flag, and our common purpose - CBS News

Nice sentiment, but either Pelley is dense as hell, or simply does not understand the nature of those who covet power for its own sake.

One does not normally unite with an enemy striving to fundamentally change the country into a model that has failed wherever forced.

The Democratic Party is no longer American, and must be driven from political authority.

There are 34 other political parties out there. It's not as if they are not expendable.

You might not know it bk but Putin is the real head of your party

Putin is in all parts of your brain 24/7 and has become the lefties boogeyman, second only to Trump.

Putin is the republican parties leader Trump takes orders from him

 

[edward37]

You’re right, it is a sad state we are in. Politics is almost entirely about winning elections and dirty campaigning unfortunately has proven to be the most effective tactic. We the people have become drama hungry puppets being fed by trolls. Don’t know how it changes but I hope something can change our course

It begins in places just like this. We may post because we won't to change hearts and mind but what we really do is build walls between us such that the opposition hears only what confirms their position. What we should be doing is creating threads that are more neutral where ideas can be shared and agreements can be reached. And secondly, we should use techniques that actually work. Calling someone a stupid idiot will never change their opinion and will just derail the thread.

Do discussions on USMB of race, religion, abortion, climate change, illegal immigration, etc change the minds of the opposition? I think not and that's because posters are far more interesting in stating their own opinion than actually changing the opinions of others.

I read much, much more than I post. And I'm not looking for evidence of my opinion, I read both sides.

I don't think I've had any of my opinions or beliefs reversed, but you can gain a bit of understanding of the opposing viewpoints and that's important too.

That is typical of people who don't post that often. People that post often usually have very strong opinions and seek information that bolsters their opinion. Most of them aren't interested in changing the opinion of others because they use rhetoric that polarizes opinion.

Lol
That’s the difference between me and people like me, I’m not trying to convince you and your socialist friends of anything. But socialist constantly have to force people into their...

Your heads are so hard we'd need drills

 

[Rustic]

You’re right, it is a sad state we are in. Politics is almost entirely about winning elections and dirty campaigning unfortunately has proven to be the most effective tactic. We the people have become drama hungry puppets being fed by trolls. Don’t know how it changes but I hope something can change our course

It begins in places just like this. We may post because we won't to change hearts and mind but what we really do is build walls between us such that the opposition hears only what confirms their position. What we should be doing is creating threads that are more neutral where ideas can be shared and agreements can be reached. And secondly, we should use techniques that actually work. Calling someone a stupid idiot will never change their opinion and will just derail the thread.

Do discussions on USMB of race, religion, abortion, climate change, illegal immigration, etc change the minds of the opposition? I think not and that's because posters are far more interesting in stating their own opinion than actually changing the opinions of others.

You’re right, most of what goes on here is trolling and fighting. I’ve engaged in some good debates which have caused me to rethink my positions and/or learn events and history that I wasn’t aware of. I’ve also been guilty of engaging in ugly attacking ways. In the end, we are all responsible for how we engage and we all need to better

Insults never change anyone's opinion. In fact, they tend to do the opposite.

There has been much research by cognitive scientists funded by political campaigns, businesses, and various public service organization about changing public opinion. In short, what they found is that your best option is to do exactly the opposite of what you find on USMB.
Facts do not change opinions. They polarize audiences. They are ignored or they send the opposition searching for contradictory facts which are likewise ignored. Facts that do not match their beliefs are happily rationalized or dismissed. You see this clearly in climate change discussions in which each side presents screen after screen of graphs, formulas, and tables of data which are not well understood by the writer and is totally ignored by the opposition who replies with screens of more scientific gobbledygook. Nothing is ever resolved and both sides move further apart.

So if facts don't work what does? Focusing on things that both sides can agree on rather what they can't be agree on. For example in our climate change example, a group which does not share the belief that climate is changing were hit with data that climate change is far worst than we thought and drastic action must be taken. Instead of the group agreeing something must done, they went in the opposite direction declaring it's a total hoax and we should do nothing. Another group that did not believe in climate change were told climate change is not near as bad we thought and we need make changes but not as drastic as previously thought. The group then began talking about ways of making changes but not drastic changes in taxes and our daily lives. Thus a compromise is reached and the two sides were open to discuss the issue. Each side then harbors the hope that since the opposition has agreed to something, they can be moved in their direction.

Lol
If socialism is so great why don’t you fuckers keep it to yourselves? Millions of Americans want nothing to do it and will never want anything to do with it…

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Not really both parties. The President has offered proposals on immigration reform which are identical to what the Democrats offered in Senate bill S. 744 in 2013, but the Democrats refuse to respond it. He has offered new trade agreements with Canada and Mexico, but the Democrats have refused to consider them.

NOT both parties? Apparently you were in a coma from 2009 to 2017....

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I don't know what you mean by "socialism".

Neither does he...

 

[Rustic]

You’re right, it is a sad state we are in. Politics is almost entirely about winning elections and dirty campaigning unfortunately has proven to be the most effective tactic. We the people have become drama hungry puppets being fed by trolls. Don’t know how it changes but I hope something can change our course

It begins in places just like this. We may post because we won't to change hearts and mind but what we really do is build walls between us such that the opposition hears only what confirms their position. What we should be doing is creating threads that are more neutral where ideas can be shared and agreements can be reached. And secondly, we should use techniques that actually work. Calling someone a stupid idiot will never change their opinion and will just derail the thread.

Do discussions on USMB of race, religion, abortion, climate change, illegal immigration, etc change the minds of the opposition? I think not and that's because posters are far more interesting in stating their own opinion than actually changing the opinions of others.

I read much, much more than I post. And I'm not looking for evidence of my opinion, I read both sides.

I don't think I've had any of my opinions or beliefs reversed, but you can gain a bit of understanding of the opposing viewpoints and that's important too.

That is typical of people who don't post that often. People that post often usually have very strong opinions and seek information that bolsters their opinion. Most of them aren't interested in changing the opinion of others because they use rhetoric that polarizes opinion.

Lol
That’s the difference between me and people like me, I’m not trying to convince you and your socialist friends of anything. But socialist constantly have to force people into their...

Your heads are so hard we'd need drills

Lol
Like I said you silly fuckers are fascists… Keep that shit socialism to yourselves.

 

[Flopper]

You’re right, it is a sad state we are in. Politics is almost entirely about winning elections and dirty campaigning unfortunately has proven to be the most effective tactic. We the people have become drama hungry puppets being fed by trolls. Don’t know how it changes but I hope something can change our course

It begins in places just like this. We may post because we won't to change hearts and mind but what we really do is build walls between us such that the opposition hears only what confirms their position. What we should be doing is creating threads that are more neutral where ideas can be shared and agreements can be reached. And secondly, we should use techniques that actually work. Calling someone a stupid idiot will never change their opinion and will just derail the thread.

Do discussions on USMB of race, religion, abortion, climate change, illegal immigration, etc change the minds of the opposition? I think not and that's because posters are far more interesting in stating their own opinion than actually changing the opinions of others.

You’re right, most of what goes on here is trolling and fighting. I’ve engaged in some good debates which have caused me to rethink my positions and/or learn events and history that I wasn’t aware of. I’ve also been guilty of engaging in ugly attacking ways. In the end, we are all responsible for how we engage and we all need to better

Yes, having civil discussions is nice, but nowhere near as fun as calling someone you don't know a fucking moron because they think making the 1% pay for everything will fix our country.

And that is much of what USMB and similar forums are all about, a place to lash out against strangers with different beliefs, something you would never do at work or at home. It's also good entertainment, but not to be taken seriously.

 

[Silver Blooded]

It begins in places just like this. We may post because we won't to change hearts and mind but what we really do is build walls between us such that the opposition hears only what confirms their position. What we should be doing is creating threads that are more neutral where ideas can be shared and agreements can be reached. And secondly, we should use techniques that actually work. Calling someone a stupid idiot will never change their opinion and will just derail the thread.

Do discussions on USMB of race, religion, abortion, climate change, illegal immigration, etc change the minds of the opposition? I think not and that's because posters are far more interesting in stating their own opinion than actually changing the opinions of others.

You’re right, most of what goes on here is trolling and fighting. I’ve engaged in some good debates which have caused me to rethink my positions and/or learn events and history that I wasn’t aware of. I’ve also been guilty of engaging in ugly attacking ways. In the end, we are all responsible for how we engage and we all need to better

Yes, having civil discussions is nice, but nowhere near as fun as calling someone you don't know a fucking moron because they think making the 1% pay for everything will fix our country.

And calling somebody you don’t know a moron is useful in what way besides providing a false sense of superiority to compensate for deep rooted insecurities?

Who gives a fuck whether it's useful? I said it was fun. It's fun to argue and beat people in arguments and debates. Trying to better ourselves won't fix this divide, unless the entire country is in agreements, and since that won't happen, I might as well use it to have some fun arguing with people on the internet.

Well for somebody who likes to win arguments you just threw out a pretty piss poor one. We can only control our own actions. Doing something you know isn’t right because “everybody else is doing it” is a lesson we learn in grade school. People who do that lack character, integrity and personal responsibility.

Dude, can you read or is your brain out-to-lunch. I don't care. Keep sucking your own dick about morality - I'm having fun. Oh, and when did I say I'm arguing because "everybody else is doing it." Take that shit out of quotes you disingenuous fucker. I said I'm doing it because it's enjoyable. Not because it's moral. Not because everyone is doing it. Because it's fun. You can attack me all you want; I don't give a shit. I'm enjoying myself on this message board arguing, and you want to please yourself by sucking your own dick about morality and how arguing on the internet "isn't right" and that I "lack character" then go for it. That's what message boards are for. Real life is for real issues. You take this place way too fucking serious if you think shit that happens on USMB actually matters in any way.

You’re right, it is a sad state we are in. Politics is almost entirely about winning elections and dirty campaigning unfortunately has proven to be the most effective tactic. We the people have become drama hungry puppets being fed by trolls. Don’t know how it changes but I hope something can change our course

It begins in places just like this. We may post because we won't to change hearts and mind but what we really do is build walls between us such that the opposition hears only what confirms their position. What we should be doing is creating threads that are more neutral where ideas can be shared and agreements can be reached. And secondly, we should use techniques that actually work. Calling someone a stupid idiot will never change their opinion and will just derail the thread.

Do discussions on USMB of race, religion, abortion, climate change, illegal immigration, etc change the minds of the opposition? I think not and that's because posters are far more interesting in stating their own opinion than actually changing the opinions of others.

You’re right, most of what goes on here is trolling and fighting. I’ve engaged in some good debates which have caused me to rethink my positions and/or learn events and history that I wasn’t aware of. I’ve also been guilty of engaging in ugly attacking ways. In the end, we are all responsible for how we engage and we all need to better

Yes, having civil discussions is nice, but nowhere near as fun as calling someone you don't know a fucking moron because they think making the 1% pay for everything will fix our country.

And that is much of what USMB and similar forums are all about, a place to lash out against strangers with different beliefs, something you would never do at work or at home. It's also good entertainment, but not to be taken seriously.

Hey, that's why I joined. I have to sit at work and listen to people attack my political beliefs listen to Democrats talk about how all Republicans are racists, and stupid for supporting unborn children. Naturally, I'm not going to say anything to my coworkers, otherwise I'll be ostracized. So, I can come here and vent my frustrations. YES! And that's what I'm saying, but this dude is acting like discussions on the internet are fucking sacred. If REAL changes about the partisan divide are going to be made, it needs to start in the real world, not on a fucking internet message board.

 

[Flopper]

How many stars in the American flag?

Fifty, you say? I'm not sure. If there were fifty, then citizens of liberal states and conservative states would join in common purpose on the blue field which is, after all, called, "the union."

Instead, it seems, we are recklessly tugging at the thread that holds us together. Today, liberals and conservatives barricade themselves in digital citadels where some media, with calculated bias, assure their viewers that what they already believe is correct. If we wall ourselves in castles of confirming information, I fear a new Cold War. This time, a cold civil war.

Given this danger, why do both parties promote almost nothing but divisive scandals? Because it is so much easier than health insurance or immigration reform. Taking on actual challenges would require work, and listening, and thought, and union.

"Divided, we stand"? Scott Pelley on our American flag, and our common purpose - CBS News

Not really both parties. The President has offered proposals on immigration reform which are identical to what the Democrats offered in Senate bill S. 744 in 2013, but the Democrats refuse to respond it. He has offered new trade agreements with Canada and Mexico, but the Democrats have refused to consider them. He has offered proposals on infrastructure repair and development but the Democrats have insisted he roll back his tax cuts before they consider them. The list could go on, but the bottom line is the Democrats are simply not interested in doing the nation's business if there is any chance Trump will get any credit for the outcome.

That my friend is American Politics today. Republicans blocked practically everything Obama proposed in his last 4 years. Democrats did the same thing to Bush, etc......The problem is liberal republicans and conservative democrats are practically nonexistent so there can be no coalitions in congress that can break thru control by the parties. Today, major change requires total control of government by one party which only occurs 1/3 of the time. And during that time, the primary purpose is to wipe out what the opposition has done during it's time leading the country. This is why 90% of American have unfavorable view of congress and generally and unfavorable view of government.

 

[bripat9643]

Worse, it's a self-inflicted wound. No one is forcing us to behave this way. Ego and tribalism.

So you believe Republicans should unit with Dims to destroy the country?

Absolutely. I think destroying the country would be really cool 'n stuff.
.

You must if you believe we should unite with the people intent on doing it.

I believe we need as many people who are capable of collaboration and innovation as possible.

Collaboration & Innovation means creating great new things. Like our Constitution.

Those who lack that capacity can just keep screaming like frustrated children.
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If leftwingers had a hand in creating the Constitution, then half of us would be in concentration camps.

 

[bripat9643]

Instead, it seems, we are recklessly tugging at the thread that holds us together. Today, liberals and conservatives barricade themselves in digital citadels where some media, with calculated bias, assure their viewers that what they already believe is correct.

It seems to me that no one today knows any history at all. I mean DEEP history, the kind you only get by living it. I was born in 1946. I clearly remember living on an army air base where soldiers and their new boomer families were forced to live cause there just wasn't enough housing. Try and imagine this.... A United States with no leftards. Got that? I mean NO lefties like we got today. EVERYBODY in this country had just spent years of their lives, and the lives of their family and friends, literally, not virtually, but litterally, hundreds of thousands of your friends and family died in the fight for the freedom of the rest of the world.

This is very clear to me, even all these years later. A leftard of today would have been, and I'm sure the few that voiced their opinions, were beaten senseless or simply disappeared. People were never seen again, the story was, "Oh, he moved to texas, got a good job" or some such. How would anyone know? No one had a cell phone, no one searched very hard. No internet, e-mail, no nothing.

So, liberals, especially the mad rabid tards we see today, ARE hard communists who think they are good Americans, and they are so wrong. They don't know what an American is.

This is what I am and I will NEVER change

I think what is clear to you is that life was far different then. We had less technology. People were more dependent on family by necessity. Except for the military, hardly anyone traveled abroad. Most people lived and died in the state they were born in. In fact, a rather large percent of the population never left the state of their birth.

We weren't concerned about racial, religious, or sexual bias because we believed it right and property. Women belonged in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant and obedient to their husband because that was her lot in life. Blacks were on the lowest rung of society because they were inferior, everybody knew that. If Darwin was right, then it was blacks that came from monkeys which what white teens called them. Christian didn't associate with Jews because they didn't believe in Jesus. The disabled which were called handicapped were forced to be dependent on the family. Homosexuals were locked away or they pretend they were heterosexual. Unwed mothers were shunned by the community denied jobs and education and the child was label as illegitimate on the birth certificate to insure that the sins of the mother carry forward to the child.

The changes brought about by WWII were the driving force behind the demand for equal treatment in society. American black soldiers after serving their country came home unwilling to conform to the old ways. During the war women experience the workplace as never before, doing responsible jobs with good pay and then promptly dismissed at end of the war. Disable veterans came home wanting good jobs, freedom of access and to escape from being a burden to their family. The religious and racial persecution and atrocities of the Nazis caused Americans to question religious and racial persecution. The liberals you're speaking of were men and women of all races, religions, demanding to be treated as individuals, judged on their merits.

BTW, I was there in the forties. I was born just before the war and was in elementary school in 1946 and a teen in 50's. I saw blacks thrown off the bus because they were sitting to close to front of the bus. I saw public water fountains and swimming pools closed because the city thought blacks would use them. When I was in high school, I was told I couldn't date a girl because she wasn't our kind of people, a code for being a Jew. My Mom worked in an office doing the work of men and making half the wages. One of the fun things kids did in those days was drive through black neighborhoods, call someone over to the car and throw a bottle of piss in their face. Those were really the good days. Thank God they are gone forever.

You may not change their opinion, but you definitely make them reluctant to voice it in public. The fewer idiot opinions the public is exposed to the better.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You may not change their opinion, but you definitely make them reluctant to voice it public.

Which was true of racist pukes for a while, there. Then president moron ran.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Worse, it's a self-inflicted wound. No one is forcing us to behave this way.

Ego and tribalism.
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No one is forcing trump either
“U.S. taxpayers have spent $81 million for the president’s two dozen trips to Florida, according to a HuffPost analysis. They spent $17 million for his 15 trips to New Jersey, another $1 million so he could visit his resort in Los Angeles and at least $3 million for his two days in Scotland last summer ― $1.3 million of which went just for rental cars for the massive entourage that accompanies a president abroad.”


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The Taxpayer Tab for Trump’s Golf Outings Tops $100 Million: Report

^^^^^Exhibit A of the OP's point

 

[toomuchtime_]

How many stars in the American flag?

Fifty, you say? I'm not sure. If there were fifty, then citizens of liberal states and conservative states would join in common purpose on the blue field which is, after all, called, "the union."

Instead, it seems, we are recklessly tugging at the thread that holds us together. Today, liberals and conservatives barricade themselves in digital citadels where some media, with calculated bias, assure their viewers that what they already believe is correct. If we wall ourselves in castles of confirming information, I fear a new Cold War. This time, a cold civil war.

Given this danger, why do both parties promote almost nothing but divisive scandals? Because it is so much easier than health insurance or immigration reform. Taking on actual challenges would require work, and listening, and thought, and union.

"Divided, we stand"? Scott Pelley on our American flag, and our common purpose - CBS News

Not really both parties. The President has offered proposals on immigration reform which are identical to what the Democrats offered in Senate bill S. 744 in 2013, but the Democrats refuse to respond it. He has offered new trade agreements with Canada and Mexico, but the Democrats have refused to consider them. He has offered proposals on infrastructure repair and development but the Democrats have insisted he roll back his tax cuts before they consider them. The list could go on, but the bottom line is the Democrats are simply not interested in doing the nation's business if there is any chance Trump will get any credit for the outcome.

That my friend is American Politics today. Republicans blocked practically everything Obama proposed in his last 4 years. Democrats did the same thing to Bush, etc......The problem is liberal republicans and conservative democrats are practically nonexistent so there can be no coalitions in congress that can break thru control by the parties. Today, major change requires total control of government by one party which only occurs 1/3 of the time. And during that time, the primary purpose is to wipe out what the opposition has done during it's time leading the country. This is why 90% of American have unfavorable view of congress and generally and unfavorable view of government.

That's just a reiteration of what the OP was complaining about, but at this time, it is entirely the Democrats who are blocking progress on nearly all important issues, not because of policy disagreements but only because of a desire to deny to America anything that might also benefit Trump.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

How many stars in the American flag?

Fifty, you say? I'm not sure. If there were fifty, then citizens of liberal states and conservative states would join in common purpose on the blue field which is, after all, called, "the union."

Instead, it seems, we are recklessly tugging at the thread that holds us together. Today, liberals and conservatives barricade themselves in digital citadels where some media, with calculated bias, assure their viewers that what they already believe is correct. If we wall ourselves in castles of confirming information, I fear a new Cold War. This time, a cold civil war.

Given this danger, why do both parties promote almost nothing but divisive scandals? Because it is so much easier than health insurance or immigration reform. Taking on actual challenges would require work, and listening, and thought, and union.

"Divided, we stand"? Scott Pelley on our American flag, and our common purpose - CBS News

This rhetoric might sound good but it’s fundamentally a false comparison, as conservatives have – for the most part – sought for decades to divide the American people with hot-button wedge ‘issues’ that are in fact not ‘issues’ at all, in an effort to conceal and deflect from the real problems the Nation must address, problems conservatives want to ignore.

 

[Nosmo King]

How many stars in the American flag?

Fifty, you say? I'm not sure. If there were fifty, then citizens of liberal states and conservative states would join in common purpose on the blue field which is, after all, called, "the union."

Instead, it seems, we are recklessly tugging at the thread that holds us together. Today, liberals and conservatives barricade themselves in digital citadels where some media, with calculated bias, assure their viewers that what they already believe is correct. If we wall ourselves in castles of confirming information, I fear a new Cold War. This time, a cold civil war.

Given this danger, why do both parties promote almost nothing but divisive scandals? Because it is so much easier than health insurance or immigration reform. Taking on actual challenges would require work, and listening, and thought, and union.

"Divided, we stand"? Scott Pelley on our American flag, and our common purpose - CBS News

Nice sentiment, but either Pelley is dense as hell, or simply does not understand the nature of those who covet power for its own sake.

One does not normally unite with an enemy striving to fundamentally change the country into a model that has failed wherever forced.

The Democratic Party is no longer American, and must be driven from political authority.

There are 34 other political parties out there. It's not as if they are not expendable.

Hillary was right. Some of you Trumpians do belong in a basket of deplorable so. You advocate one party rule while claiming while claiming Democrats must be driven out of political authority. How unAmerican can you get? Being a Trump supporter puts the first foot on that path.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Secession is the answer.

And here is yet further proof of how the right seeks to divide the American people.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

not because of policy disagreements but only because of a desire to deny to America anything that might also benefit Trump.

Oh really? Is that why the republican senate rejects Trumps trade deals?

Senate rejects Trump's deal to save Chinese company ZTE

Is that why the Republican senate rejected trump's border emergency?

Senate votes to reject Trump's border emergency declaration

Is that why the republican senate rebuked trump on the saudi/yemen war?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...6a24a8-45c2-11e9-8aab-95b8d80a1e4f_story.html

Is that why the republican senate rebuked trump on tariffs?

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/07/11/politics/senate-trump-tariff-vote/index.html?r=https://www.google.com/

Or, on russian sanctions?

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/15/politics/sanctions-senate-republicans-trump/index.html?r=https://www.google.com/&rm=1