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How many stars in the American flag?
Fifty, you say? I'm not sure. If there were fifty, then citizens of liberal states and conservative states would join in common purpose on the blue field which is, after all, called, "the union."
Instead, it seems, we are recklessly tugging at the thread that holds us together. Today, liberals and conservatives barricade themselves in digital citadels where some media, with calculated bias, assure their viewers that what they already believe is correct. If we wall ourselves in castles of confirming information, I fear a new Cold War. This time, a cold civil war.
Given this danger, why do both parties promote almost nothing but divisive scandals? Because it is so much easier than health insurance or immigration reform. Taking on actual challenges would require work, and listening, and thought, and union.
"Divided, we stand"? Scott Pelley on our American flag, and our common purpose - CBS News
Basically true but over-dramatic.
Jeez...everyone goes through phases, even countries.
And look around America - nationalism and extremism are in the rise in most of the West.
And there are set, logical reasons for it. Human DNA didn't suddenly just go all wonky.
And there are set, logical reasons why it will almost certainly (though not 100% certainly), eventually pass.
My major concern is how much 'damage' will there be before western humanity comes out the other side?
Absolutely. The problem is that the loudest voices are the loudest because they have descended into shallow, binary thinking patterns and no longer possess the capacity for the reason and logic required to engage effectively.Are you willing to grant that those that oppose you politically might do so because of a valid difference of opinion?
Absolutely. The problem is that the loudest voices are the loudest because they have descended into shallow, binary thinking patterns and no longer possess the capacity for the reason and logic required to engage effectively.Are you willing to grant that those that oppose you politically might do so because of a valid difference of opinion?
Trying to communicate with people like that would be like trying to engage in constructive conversation with a wild-eyed teenager on the streets of Damascus or a protest sign-carrying Westboro Baptist Church member picketing the funeral of a fallen soldier. It's all but pointless.
Identifying and addressing valid differences of opinion can lead to the collaboration and innovation that create great things. But the parties involved have to have the skill set to engage. Right now, those people are very difficult to find, and we're witnessing the predictable results in real time.
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Tell you what: I'm nobody. You two can pound this out. Let me know how it goes.Absolutely. The problem is that the loudest voices are the loudest because they have descended into shallow, binary thinking patterns and no longer possess the capacity for the reason and logic required to engage effectively.Are you willing to grant that those that oppose you politically might do so because of a valid difference of opinion?
Trying to communicate with people like that would be like trying to engage in constructive conversation with a wild-eyed teenager on the streets of Damascus or a protest sign-carrying Westboro Baptist Church member picketing the funeral of a fallen soldier. It's all but pointless.
Identifying and addressing valid differences of opinion can lead to the collaboration and innovation that create great things. But the parties involved have to have the skill set to engage. Right now, those people are very difficult to find, and we're witnessing the predictable results in real time.
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So, your solution is what?
Sit and wait until people become 'reasonable'?
How lazy and condescending of you.
Here is an idea...instead of just insulting most the world by inferring they have de-evolved - why not take a more positive approach and assume that people in general are not the problem but events/circumstances have simply brought more negative personalities to the fore.
And once those events/circumstances have been identified, carry out rectifying methods to bring balance back?
Tell you what: I'm nobody. You two can pound this out. Let me know how it goes.Absolutely. The problem is that the loudest voices are the loudest because they have descended into shallow, binary thinking patterns and no longer possess the capacity for the reason and logic required to engage effectively.Are you willing to grant that those that oppose you politically might do so because of a valid difference of opinion?
Trying to communicate with people like that would be like trying to engage in constructive conversation with a wild-eyed teenager on the streets of Damascus or a protest sign-carrying Westboro Baptist Church member picketing the funeral of a fallen soldier. It's all but pointless.
Identifying and addressing valid differences of opinion can lead to the collaboration and innovation that create great things. But the parties involved have to have the skill set to engage. Right now, those people are very difficult to find, and we're witnessing the predictable results in real time.
.
So, your solution is what?
Sit and wait until people become 'reasonable'?
How lazy and condescending of you.
Here is an idea...instead of just insulting most the world by inferring they have de-evolved - why not take a more positive approach and assume that people in general are not the problem but events/circumstances have simply brought more negative personalities to the fore.
And once those events/circumstances have been identified, carry out rectifying methods to bring balance back?
.
I was asked a serious and direct question, and I provided a serious and direct response.Tell you what: I'm nobody. You two can pound this out. Let me know how it goes.Absolutely. The problem is that the loudest voices are the loudest because they have descended into shallow, binary thinking patterns and no longer possess the capacity for the reason and logic required to engage effectively.Are you willing to grant that those that oppose you politically might do so because of a valid difference of opinion?
Trying to communicate with people like that would be like trying to engage in constructive conversation with a wild-eyed teenager on the streets of Damascus or a protest sign-carrying Westboro Baptist Church member picketing the funeral of a fallen soldier. It's all but pointless.
Identifying and addressing valid differences of opinion can lead to the collaboration and innovation that create great things. But the parties involved have to have the skill set to engage. Right now, those people are very difficult to find, and we're witnessing the predictable results in real time.
.
So, your solution is what?
Sit and wait until people become 'reasonable'?
How lazy and condescending of you.
Here is an idea...instead of just insulting most the world by inferring they have de-evolved - why not take a more positive approach and assume that people in general are not the problem but events/circumstances have simply brought more negative personalities to the fore.
And once those events/circumstances have been identified, carry out rectifying methods to bring balance back?
.
You are like a WW2-era M18 Hellcat...fast and relatively hard-hitting, but INCREDIBLY thin-skinned.
I was asked a serious and direct question, and I provided a serious and direct response.Tell you what: I'm nobody. You two can pound this out. Let me know how it goes.Absolutely. The problem is that the loudest voices are the loudest because they have descended into shallow, binary thinking patterns and no longer possess the capacity for the reason and logic required to engage effectively.Are you willing to grant that those that oppose you politically might do so because of a valid difference of opinion?
Trying to communicate with people like that would be like trying to engage in constructive conversation with a wild-eyed teenager on the streets of Damascus or a protest sign-carrying Westboro Baptist Church member picketing the funeral of a fallen soldier. It's all but pointless.
Identifying and addressing valid differences of opinion can lead to the collaboration and innovation that create great things. But the parties involved have to have the skill set to engage. Right now, those people are very difficult to find, and we're witnessing the predictable results in real time.
.
So, your solution is what?
Sit and wait until people become 'reasonable'?
How lazy and condescending of you.
Here is an idea...instead of just insulting most the world by inferring they have de-evolved - why not take a more positive approach and assume that people in general are not the problem but events/circumstances have simply brought more negative personalities to the fore.
And once those events/circumstances have been identified, carry out rectifying methods to bring balance back?
.
You are like a WW2-era M18 Hellcat...fast and relatively hard-hitting, but INCREDIBLY thin-skinned.
If my response has troubled you in some way, I guess we'll all just have to find the energy to carry on.
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Well for somebody who likes to win arguments you just threw out a pretty piss poor one. We can only control our own actions. Doing something you know isn’t right because “everybody else is doing it” is a lesson we learn in grade school. People who do that lack character, integrity and personal responsibility.Who gives a fuck whether it's useful? I said it was fun. It's fun to argue and beat people in arguments and debates. Trying to better ourselves won't fix this divide, unless the entire country is in agreements, and since that won't happen, I might as well use it to have some fun arguing with people on the internet.And calling somebody you don’t know a moron is useful in what way besides providing a false sense of superiority to compensate for deep rooted insecurities?Yes, having civil discussions is nice, but nowhere near as fun as calling someone you don't know a fucking moron because they think making the 1% pay for everything will fix our country.You’re right, most of what goes on here is trolling and fighting. I’ve engaged in some good debates which have caused me to rethink my positions and/or learn events and history that I wasn’t aware of. I’ve also been guilty of engaging in ugly attacking ways. In the end, we are all responsible for how we engage and we all need to betterIt begins in places just like this. We may post because we won't to change hearts and mind but what we really do is build walls between us such that the opposition hears only what confirms their position. What we should be doing is creating threads that are more neutral where ideas can be shared and agreements can be reached. And secondly, we should use techniques that actually work. Calling someone a stupid idiot will never change their opinion and will just derail the thread.You’re right, it is a sad state we are in. Politics is almost entirely about winning elections and dirty campaigning unfortunately has proven to be the most effective tactic. We the people have become drama hungry puppets being fed by trolls. Don’t know how it changes but I hope something can change our course
Do discussions on USMB of race, religion, abortion, climate change, illegal immigration, etc change the minds of the opposition? I think not and that's because posters are far more interesting in stating their own opinion than actually changing the opinions of others.
Not really both parties. The President has offered proposals on immigration reform which are identical to what the Democrats offered in Senate bill S. 744 in 2013, but the Democrats refuse to respond it. He has offered new trade agreements with Canada and Mexico, but the Democrats have refused to consider them. He has offered proposals on infrastructure repair and development but the Democrats have insisted he roll back his tax cuts before they consider them. The list could go on, but the bottom line is the Democrats are simply not interested in doing the nation's business if there is any chance Trump will get any credit for the outcome.How many stars in the American flag?
Fifty, you say? I'm not sure. If there were fifty, then citizens of liberal states and conservative states would join in common purpose on the blue field which is, after all, called, "the union."
Instead, it seems, we are recklessly tugging at the thread that holds us together. Today, liberals and conservatives barricade themselves in digital citadels where some media, with calculated bias, assure their viewers that what they already believe is correct. If we wall ourselves in castles of confirming information, I fear a new Cold War. This time, a cold civil war.
Given this danger, why do both parties promote almost nothing but divisive scandals? Because it is so much easier than health insurance or immigration reform. Taking on actual challenges would require work, and listening, and thought, and union.
"Divided, we stand"? Scott Pelley on our American flag, and our common purpose - CBS News
LolHow many stars in the American flag?
Fifty, you say? I'm not sure. If there were fifty, then citizens of liberal states and conservative states would join in common purpose on the blue field which is, after all, called, "the union."
Instead, it seems, we are recklessly tugging at the thread that holds us together. Today, liberals and conservatives barricade themselves in digital citadels where some media, with calculated bias, assure their viewers that what they already believe is correct. If we wall ourselves in castles of confirming information, I fear a new Cold War. This time, a cold civil war.
Given this danger, why do both parties promote almost nothing but divisive scandals? Because it is so much easier than health insurance or immigration reform. Taking on actual challenges would require work, and listening, and thought, and union.
"Divided, we stand"? Scott Pelley on our American flag, and our common purpose - CBS News
The number one threat to mankind is people who think "global warming" is the number one threat to mankind.I know this isn't a serious thread because it didnt mention the number one threat to mankind....global warming
LolYou’re right, it is a sad state we are in. Politics is almost entirely about winning elections and dirty campaigning unfortunately has proven to be the most effective tactic. We the people have become drama hungry puppets being fed by trolls. Don’t know how it changes but I hope something can change our course
We have centuries of proof that socialism does not work for the good of any society.Worse, it's a self-inflicted wound. No one is forcing us to behave this way.
Ego and tribalism.
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LolHow many stars in the American flag?
Fifty, you say? I'm not sure. If there were fifty, then citizens of liberal states and conservative states would join in common purpose on the blue field which is, after all, called, "the union."
Instead, it seems, we are recklessly tugging at the thread that holds us together. Today, liberals and conservatives barricade themselves in digital citadels where some media, with calculated bias, assure their viewers that what they already believe is correct. If we wall ourselves in castles of confirming information, I fear a new Cold War. This time, a cold civil war.
Given this danger, why do both parties promote almost nothing but divisive scandals? Because it is so much easier than health insurance or immigration reform. Taking on actual challenges would require work, and listening, and thought, and union.
"Divided, we stand"? Scott Pelley on our American flag, and our common purpose - CBS News
Pretty much correct.
The good news (if you want to call it that) is that the angry white men are dying off faster than ever thanks to the high fat/low fiber lifestyles of most in the South. With them, the bigotry, hatred, and (the worst part) the intellectual dishonesty and oneupmanship is dying off as well. So that is indeed good news. Not that people are dying but the basic bottom line result.
LolNo one is forcing trump eitherWorse, it's a self-inflicted wound. No one is forcing us to behave this way.
Ego and tribalism.
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“U.S. taxpayers have spent $81 million for the president’s two dozen trips to Florida, according to a HuffPost analysis. They spent $17 million for his 15 trips to New Jersey, another $1 million so he could visit his resort in Los Angeles and at least $3 million for his two days in Scotland last summer ― $1.3 million of which went just for rental cars for the massive entourage that accompanies a president abroad.”
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LolIt begins in places just like this. We may post because we won't to change hearts and mind but what we really do is build walls between us such that the opposition hears only what confirms their position. What we should be doing is creating threads that are more neutral where ideas can be shared and agreements can be reached. And secondly, we should use techniques that actually work. Calling someone a stupid idiot will never change their opinion and will just derail the thread.You’re right, it is a sad state we are in. Politics is almost entirely about winning elections and dirty campaigning unfortunately has proven to be the most effective tactic. We the people have become drama hungry puppets being fed by trolls. Don’t know how it changes but I hope something can change our course
Do discussions on USMB of race, religion, abortion, climate change, illegal immigration, etc change the minds of the opposition? I think not and that's because posters are far more interesting in stating their own opinion than actually changing the opinions of others.
LolThe problem is that your attitude only fuels the trolls and the division which strengths the wings of each party. You actually contribute to strengthening the movement that you are so adamantly against. Both parties actually have a lot of common areas as well. Why not focus on those. Not every issue has an absolute and opposite solution as defined by our ruling classes.How many stars in the American flag?
Fifty, you say? I'm not sure. If there were fifty, then citizens of liberal states and conservative states would join in common purpose on the blue field which is, after all, called, "the union."
Instead, it seems, we are recklessly tugging at the thread that holds us together. Today, liberals and conservatives barricade themselves in digital citadels where some media, with calculated bias, assure their viewers that what they already believe is correct. If we wall ourselves in castles of confirming information, I fear a new Cold War. This time, a cold civil war.
Given this danger, why do both parties promote almost nothing but divisive scandals? Because it is so much easier than health insurance or immigration reform. Taking on actual challenges would require work, and listening, and thought, and union.
"Divided, we stand"? Scott Pelley on our American flag, and our common purpose - CBS News
Nice sentiment, but either Pelley is dense as hell, or simply does not understand the nature of those who covet power for its own sake.
One does not normally unite with an enemy striving to fundamentally change the country into a model that has failed wherever forced.
The Democratic Party is no longer American, and must be driven from political authority.
There are 34 other political parties out there. It's not as if they are not expendable.
Perhaps you missed trump the liar saying he'd have no time for golf ?? And only morons believed thatLolNo one is forcing trump eitherWorse, it's a self-inflicted wound. No one is forcing us to behave this way.
Ego and tribalism.
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“U.S. taxpayers have spent $81 million for the president’s two dozen trips to Florida, according to a HuffPost analysis. They spent $17 million for his 15 trips to New Jersey, another $1 million so he could visit his resort in Los Angeles and at least $3 million for his two days in Scotland last summer ― $1.3 million of which went just for rental cars for the massive entourage that accompanies a president abroad.”
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The Taxpayer Tab for Trump’s Golf Outings Tops $100 Million: Report
You never complained when career politicians were doing the same thing… So shut the fuck up
