- Jan 12, 2012
- 6,062
- 397
- 85
- Thread starter
- #21
I don't care what you believe as you should not care what I believe. I have interest in speaking to people of different religions. Having studied and gone to the major churches, I find their descriptions of beauty and grace uplifting and each has their own unique truth. When they discuss Hell, evil , or sin, their arguments fall apart. Stick with "Have a blessed day", not "you are going to Hell for that".You have positive and negative, not good and evil. Any harm you do will be revisited upon you in equal amounts. Sin is somebody's else's idea wrong.Sorry, don't believe we are sinners.Did god really condemn mankind? Is god a just god?
God’s condemnation is quite severe. Hell and death, if you are a literalist believer.
Meanwhile, scriptures say that the penalty for sin is closer to what we generally view as justice. That justice being an eye for an eye. This means that the penalty is close to the severity of the sin. If I kill, I earn death. If I steal, I only forfeit my wealth. I do not earn death. This justice seems fair to me.
Since few of us ever kill, few of us should earn hell and death. Yet scriptures indicate that the vast majority of our souls end in hell and death, while only the few reach heaven.
Can god be just if he exceeds the good justice standard that the bible, god’s WORD, claims is just?
There is no doubt that we are all sinners. Be that condition, imposed by god or nature, is forced upon us at birth.
If you think you have been condemned to hell and death and need a savior, can you tell us what sin of yours earned you hell and death?
Thanks.
Regards
DL
Because you reject the word sin due to not being a believer, or because you do not think you have even cause harm to another?
Regards
DL
Sin is considered evil even if you do not like the term.
How do you get to think equal amount will always find a perpetrator?
If I kill you, where is the equal amount?
Regards
DL
They should, yes. They do not.
You do not seem to live by the Golden Rule if you care that little of what others think or believe.
If you think you should live by the Golden Rule, change the labels in this quote to women, minorities, gays or children being brainwashed by religions and it shows what we should be thinking and doing for each other.
"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”
Regards
DL