Did god really condemn mankind? Is god a just god?

[ding]

Sheep don't see wolves as evil for eating their lambs.

Why then do they run away.

Regards
DL

Do you think they run away because they see the wolves as evil? Seriously?

Thanks for ignoring the question and again showing you are just a stupid troll. Go do your garbage with someone else.

Regards
DL

I'm just trying to figure out what you are arguing.

It seems that you agree with me that the sheep doesn't see the wolf as evil. Which means you agree with me.

 

[ding]

Is that a Gnostic Christian belief? That there is likely no god?

You do claim to be a Gnostic Christian, right?

Is that their belief? That there is likely no god?

No. It is the intelligent position when talking of mythical gods.

You, if I recall, have already been introduced to the Gnostic Christian view and definition of god.

You do know what kind of god Moses came down the mountain with.

Tell us. You can do this if you really try.

You have had your quota, troll, unless you actually make things interesting for me, which you have always failed to do.

You should be able to glean the answer to my question if you listen and watch with an open mind at the Moses reference. I am not even sure you have a mind but I am having a light day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ1PDxeUynA

Regards
DL

So you do believe in a God?

Is that correct?

Is that what I said?

Is that what Moses came down the mountain with?

If you refuse to think and learn, that is on you.

Regards
DL

Yes, you did. When I asked you if it was the Gnostic Christian belief that there is likely no God, you said no.

So tell me about the God you believe in.

I have before and you did not pay attention.

Seems we are done. Have the couth to fuck off.

Regards
DL

So the God in the OP is the God you believe in?

You are a Gnostic Christian, right?

They believe in God don't they. Are you saying the God you believe in isn't just and doesn't exist? because why would you be a Gnostic Christian if you believed that?

 

[ding]

Is that a Gnostic Christian belief? That there is likely no god?

You do claim to be a Gnostic Christian, right?

Is that their belief? That there is likely no god?

No. It is the intelligent position when talking of mythical gods.

You, if I recall, have already been introduced to the Gnostic Christian view and definition of god.

You do know what kind of god Moses came down the mountain with.

Tell us. You can do this if you really try.

You have had your quota, troll, unless you actually make things interesting for me, which you have always failed to do.

You should be able to glean the answer to my question if you listen and watch with an open mind at the Moses reference. I am not even sure you have a mind but I am having a light day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ1PDxeUynA

Regards
DL

So you do believe in a God?

Is that correct?

Is that what I said?

Is that what Moses came down the mountain with?

If you refuse to think and learn, that is on you.

Regards
DL

Yes, you did. When I asked you if it was the Gnostic Christian belief that there is likely no God, you said no.

So tell me about the God you believe in.

I have before and you did not pay attention.

Seems we are done. Have the couth to fuck off.

Regards
DL

Don’t you hate it when I trap you into a corner?

 

[Third Party]

Sorry, don't believe we are sinners.

Because you reject the word sin due to not being a believer, or because you do not think you have even cause harm to another?

Regards
DL

You have positive and negative, not good and evil. Any harm you do will be revisited upon you in equal amounts. Sin is somebody's else's idea wrong.

Sin is considered evil even if you do not like the term.

How do you get to think equal amount will always find a perpetrator?

If I kill you, where is the equal amount?

Regards
DL

I don't care what you believe as you should not care what I believe. I have interest in speaking to people of different religions. Having studied and gone to the major churches, I find their descriptions of beauty and grace uplifting and each has their own unique truth. When they discuss Hell, evil , or sin, their arguments fall apart. Stick with "Have a blessed day", not "you are going to Hell for that".

They should, yes. They do not.

You do not seem to live by the Golden Rule if you care that little of what others think or believe.

If you think you should live by the Golden Rule, change the labels in this quote to women, minorities, gays or children being brainwashed by religions and it shows what we should be thinking and doing for each other.

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”

Regards
DL

No, because the Golden rule is a man construct-not a God construct. Yes , I've read that quote about the Nazi's and at that time, doing something would not have changed anything. Again, your beliefs are yours, and my beliefs are mine.

 

[Taz]

Because you reject the word sin due to not being a believer, or because you do not think you have even cause harm to another?

Regards
DL

You have positive and negative, not good and evil. Any harm you do will be revisited upon you in equal amounts. Sin is somebody's else's idea wrong.

Sin is considered evil even if you do not like the term.

How do you get to think equal amount will always find a perpetrator?

If I kill you, where is the equal amount?

Regards
DL

No. Sin is anything which distances you from God.

How do you know that that’s what an invisible superbeing wants?

You misspelled existence.

Because you shouldn't distance yourself from existence.

So you don't know. Then why say it?

 

[ding]

You have positive and negative, not good and evil. Any harm you do will be revisited upon you in equal amounts. Sin is somebody's else's idea wrong.

Sin is considered evil even if you do not like the term.

How do you get to think equal amount will always find a perpetrator?

If I kill you, where is the equal amount?

Regards
DL

No. Sin is anything which distances you from God.

How do you know that that’s what an invisible superbeing wants?

You misspelled existence.

Because you shouldn't distance yourself from existence.

So you don't know. Then why say it?

I just told you why. You shouldn't distance yourself from existence. It's not healthy. Confront reality, Taz. Existence = reality

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I think when people say that G-d is pretty severe, they only are looking at one side of G-d.

I heard Hitler was also very nice, at times.

 

[GreatestIam]

I think when people say that G-d is pretty severe, they only are looking at one side of G-d.

I heard Hitler was also very nice, at times.

I could never dither out why Christians idol worship a genocidal god who kills while Jesus says he came to cure and not kill.

Perhaps you might know.

Regards
DL

 

[Third Party]

I think when people say that G-d is pretty severe, they only are looking at one side of G-d.

I heard Hitler was also very nice, at times.

I could never dither out why Christians idol worship a genocidal god who kills while Jesus says he came to cure and not kill.

Perhaps you might know.

Regards
DL

Christian traditions were created in part to mock Jewish ones-hats off in church, hats on in church, blah, blah, blah.

 

[GreatestIam]

I think when people say that G-d is pretty severe, they only are looking at one side of G-d.

I heard Hitler was also very nice, at times.

I could never dither out why Christians idol worship a genocidal god who kills while Jesus says he came to cure and not kill.

Perhaps you might know.

Regards
DL

Christian traditions were created in part to mock Jewish ones-hats off in church, hats on in church, blah, blah, blah.

That and discredit them, even as they usurped their god.

The less intelligent are not able to see past the lies.

That does not really explain why Christians idol worship a genocidal god while calling the prick good.

Regards
DL

 

[hobelim]

If you think you have been condemned to hell and death and need a savior, can you tell us what sin of yours earned you hell and death?

I once ate a baloney sandwich on Friday. What must I do to be saved?

 

[ding]

You guys have got it bad.

 

[diver52]

If you think you have been condemned to hell and death and need a savior, can you tell us what sin of yours earned you hell and death?

I once ate a baloney sandwich on Friday. What must I do to be saved?

Pepto.

 

[ding]

Did god really condemn mankind? Is god a just god?


God’s condemnation is quite severe. Hell and death, if you are a literalist believer.


Meanwhile, scriptures say that the penalty for sin is closer to what we generally view as justice. That justice being an eye for an eye. This means that the penalty is close to the severity of the sin. If I kill, I earn death. If I steal, I only forfeit my wealth. I do not earn death. This justice seems fair to me.


Since few of us ever kill, few of us should earn hell and death. Yet scriptures indicate that the vast majority of our souls end in hell and death, while only the few reach heaven.


Can god be just if he exceeds the good justice standard that the bible, god’s WORD, claims is just?


There is no doubt that we are all sinners. Be that condition, imposed by god or nature, is forced upon us at birth.


If you think you have been condemned to hell and death and need a savior, can you tell us what sin of yours earned you hell and death?


Thanks.


Regards

DL

Here’s the thing. God created existence. Existence is good. You may not like everything about existence but you can’t have the good without the bad.

So rather than badmouthing God, maybe you should be thankful because it will change how you perceive the world around you.

 

[GreatestIam]

If you think you have been condemned to hell and death and need a savior, can you tell us what sin of yours earned you hell and death?

I once ate a baloney sandwich on Friday. What must I do to be saved?

Recognize that you are full of baloney. That is why you could not answer my simple question.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

God created existence.

Thanks for the lie.

Regards
DL

 

[hobelim]

If you think you have been condemned to hell and death and need a savior, can you tell us what sin of yours earned you hell and death?

I once ate a baloney sandwich on Friday. What must I do to be saved?

Recognize that you are full of baloney. That is why you could not answer my simple question.

Regards
DL

Hey man, you should know by now that if you ask a stupid question you are going to get a stupid answer.


You should have asked the faithful if they really believed that Jesus is coming, ANY MINUTE, to judge the living and the dead, why do they choose to be such assholes every single day.

 

[ding]

God created existence.

Thanks for the lie.

Regards
DL

No lie. All truth. Maybe you ought to be thankful for God creating existence.

 

[ding]

If you think you have been condemned to hell and death and need a savior, can you tell us what sin of yours earned you hell and death?

I once ate a baloney sandwich on Friday. What must I do to be saved?

Recognize that you are full of baloney. That is why you could not answer my simple question.

Regards
DL

Hey man, you should know by now that if you ask a stupid question you are going to get a stupid answer.


You should have asked the faithful if they really believed that Jesus is coming, ANY MINUTE, to judge the living and the dead, why do they choose to be such assholes every single day.

Because we are only human.

 

[ding]

Did god really condemn mankind? Is god a just god?


God’s condemnation is quite severe. Hell and death, if you are a literalist believer.


Meanwhile, scriptures say that the penalty for sin is closer to what we generally view as justice. That justice being an eye for an eye. This means that the penalty is close to the severity of the sin. If I kill, I earn death. If I steal, I only forfeit my wealth. I do not earn death. This justice seems fair to me.


Since few of us ever kill, few of us should earn hell and death. Yet scriptures indicate that the vast majority of our souls end in hell and death, while only the few reach heaven.


Can god be just if he exceeds the good justice standard that the bible, god’s WORD, claims is just?


There is no doubt that we are all sinners. Be that condition, imposed by god or nature, is forced upon us at birth.


If you think you have been condemned to hell and death and need a savior, can you tell us what sin of yours earned you hell and death?


Thanks.


Regards

DL

No one knows their fate or the fate of others.