Closest thing I've seen to calling on the bullshit...

If you had actually read the Emancipation Proclamation, you would see that nowhere in the document does it state that U.S. slaves were free. Rather, enemies of the United States that had slaves were free. And since the Confederacy had left the United States, guess what they were considered?

More specifically, the proclamation actually names the state in which slaves were freed, and of course they were all members of the Confederacy. Being that Lincoln was not the President of the Confederacy, he had no authority to free the slaves in those states.
 
Don't kid yourself... the strong families and nations of this planet survived to get control of this planets resources. When the Ice came, survival meant killing. It was in our nature. It has been a brutal birth so far, but imagine what this living organism we call "Mother" will look like if 'human intelligence' survives...

-Joe

Forgive my anger. Taking history personally is what the problem is, sort of.

-Joe
 
More specifically, the proclamation actually names the state in which slaves were freed, and of course they were all members of the Confederacy. Being that Lincoln was not the President of the Confederacy, he had no authority to free the slaves in those states.

That too. It would be like us making policy laws for the UK or Germany.
 
Your jerk starting spending like every day was a sale day at Macys Willow. Pretty hypocritical of you. All Obama is trying to do is clean up the mess of 6 years of repub controlled congress and 8 years of an ijit in the Oval office.



yes,, this "thing we inherited" :lol: he fought tooth and nail to inherit,, no,, what he is trying to do is redistribute the wealth and cater to his constituents,, don't try to kid a kidder.

Damned right, it is time to re-distribute the wealth. It's time that the people that create the wealth get a proper share, rather than the parasites that created nightmares like the 'direvatives' and tax breaks for shipping our manufacturing jobs overseas.

calm down, old timer.
 
If you had actually read the Emancipation Proclamation, you would see that nowhere in the document does it state that U.S. slaves were free. Rather, enemies of the United States that had slaves were free. And since the Confederacy had left the United States, guess what they were considered?

More specifically, the proclamation actually names the state in which slaves were freed, and of course they were all members of the Confederacy. Being that Lincoln was not the President of the Confederacy, he had no authority to free the slaves in those states.

The United States never recognized the confederacy as its own country...I am pretty sure no other country did either...could be wrong there

If no other country recognized their independence from the union, aren't they still part of the union and under authority of the President?
 
The United States never recognized the confederacy as its own country...I am pretty sure no other country did either...could be wrong there

If no other country recognized their independence from the union, aren't they still part of the union and under authority of the President?

No. The Confederacy considered itself a separate union, which is why the war occurred in the first place. The Confederacy was never fighting to control the north, only to remain their own separate entity. They lost, and so they remained a part of the United States. During the war, regardless of what laws were passed in the US, the Confederacy did not follow them. However, in the eyes of the Union, it meant the states of the Confederacy were breaking the law.

Saying that the Confederacy had to follow the laws of the Union during the war is like saying the colonies had to follow the laws of Great Britain during the American Revolution. The point of separating is because you don't WANT to follow their laws.
 
If you had actually read the Emancipation Proclamation, you would see that nowhere in the document does it state that U.S. slaves were free. Rather, enemies of the United States that had slaves were free. And since the Confederacy had left the United States, guess what they were considered?

More specifically, the proclamation actually names the state in which slaves were freed, and of course they were all members of the Confederacy. Being that Lincoln was not the President of the Confederacy, he had no authority to free the slaves in those states.

The United States never recognized the confederacy as its own country...I am pretty sure no other country did either...could be wrong there

If no other country recognized their independence from the union, aren't they still part of the union and under authority of the President?

That's more of the bullshit... Peoples not recognized? Are we blind? Of course they're people!

-Joe
 
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Well Bobby already got it wrong. Lincoln didn't free the slaves.

Though ironically, Republicans always reference that perhaps because they haven't done anything good since 1865? :razz:
there you go again

proving what a partisan hack you are
 

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