Closest thing I've seen to calling on the bullshit...

[DiveCon]

Palin did not enact the legislation that made the oil in Alaska the property of The People! She was a kid when she got her first oil check from the state.

-Joe

show how little you know, Sarah Palin did NOT grow up in Alaska

Not really the point though, is it?

-Joe

but it sure destroyed your snide remark about her getting a check as a child, now didnt it?

and it was a republican Governor that did it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Permanent_Fund

 

[DiveCon]

In fact, the most hated of the Republicans....Sarah Palin.

that is incorrect

 

[AVG-JOE]

It was a Republican who came up with that concept, nimrod.

Assuming you are correct, how do you, as a republican, feel about the people of a state being entitled by the government to proceeds from the profits of the harvest of natural resources? Entitled simply because they are citizens.

It must be really sour knowing that a fellow republican gave all those nice profits to the undeserving masses!



-Joe

 

[garyd]

Joe your right you know a little history and even less of the law. The notion thgat Linbcoln didn't have the right to free the Confederacies slaves would be valid if A) The North had ever recognized the right of succession or B) the south had won the war. Since neither of these statements is true the argument is at best fallacious and at worst duplicitous or disengenuous.

 

[DiveCon]

It was a Republican who came up with that concept, nimrod.

Assuming you are correct, how do you, as a republican, feel about the people of a state being entitled by the government to proceeds from the profits of the harvest of natural resources? Entitled simply because they are citizens.

It must be really sour knowing that a fellow republican gave all those nice profits to the undeserving masses!



-Joe

if there are no or few state taxes or fees, i have no problem with the excess money from the oil revenues being returned to the citizens of that state

 

[AVG-JOE]

show how little you know, Sarah Palin did NOT grow up in Alaska

Not really the point though, is it?

-Joe

but it sure destroyed your snide remark about her getting a check as a child, now didnt it?

and it was a republican Governor that did it

Alaska Permanent Fund - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Alaska Permanent Fund is a constitutionally established permanent fund, managed by a semi-independent corporation, established by Alaska in 1976...

Someone in Alaska who is her age received oil profits as a minor. Lots of folks receive oil profits there just for being members of the 'undeserving masses'... that's gotta be pissing you republican corporate lap-dogs off a little...

-Joe

 

[garyd]

Frankly I think it is a bad Idea to disassociate the tax payers from the pain of paying taxes that they can actually see as it removes a the best watch dog on wasteful spending from any reason to be in the hunt.

 

[DiveCon]

Not really the point though, is it?

-Joe

but it sure destroyed your snide remark about her getting a check as a child, now didnt it?

and it was a republican Governor that did it

Alaska Permanent Fund - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Alaska Permanent Fund is a constitutionally established permanent fund, managed by a semi-independent corporation, established by Alaska in 1976...

Someone in Alaska who is her age received oil profits as a minor. Lots of folks receive oil profits there just for being members of the 'undeserving masses'... that's gotta be pissing you republican corporate lap-dogs off a little...

-Joe

actually, i believe it only goes to Adults, and see my post above addressing that very point
you clearly have little knowledge of history, little knowledge of politics and even less of law

 

[DiveCon]

Frankly I think it is a bad Idea to disassociate the tax payers from the pain of paying taxes that they can actually see as it removes a the best watch dog on wasteful spending from any reason to be in the hunt.

i see it as no different than if they over tax the citizens, then you give it back

 

[garyd]

Fewer people screaming means less likelihood that anyone gives a damn about the crap that Goes on. How do you think Al;aska's good ole boy network got away with their shenanigans for so long. The money wasn't coming out of the people's pocket so no one gave a rat's ass about the corruption.

 

[AVG-JOE]

but it sure destroyed your snide remark about her getting a check as a child, now didnt it?

and it was a republican Governor that did it

Alaska Permanent Fund - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Alaska Permanent Fund is a constitutionally established permanent fund, managed by a semi-independent corporation, established by Alaska in 1976...

Someone in Alaska who is her age received oil profits as a minor. Lots of folks receive oil profits there just for being members of the 'undeserving masses'... that's gotta be pissing you republican corporate lap-dogs off a little...

-Joe

actually, i believe it only goes to Adults, and see my post above addressing that very point
you clearly have little knowledge of history, little knowledge of politics and even less of law

Clearly.

It is a good thing I'm pretty.

-Joe

 

[garyd]

Pretty far below average?

 

[AVG-JOE]

Pretty far below average?

Nope. Just pretty.

 

[DiveCon]

Fewer people screaming means less likelihood that anyone gives a damn about the crap that Goes on. How do you think Al;aska's good ole boy network got away with their shenanigans for so long. The money wasn't coming out of the people's pocket so no one gave a rat's ass about the corruption.

actually, that was what got Sarah Palin elected
she cut taxes and got more returned to the people

 

[AVG-JOE]

Fewer people screaming means less likelihood that anyone gives a damn about the crap that Goes on. How do you think Al;aska's good ole boy network got away with their shenanigans for so long. The money wasn't coming out of the people's pocket so no one gave a rat's ass about the corruption.

actually, that was what got Sarah Palin elected
she cut taxes and got more returned to the people

So, you guys agree that the people own the resources of the planet and those who have made a personal claim to ownership of our natural resources should be told to go and fuck themselves?!?

Common ground brothers!

-Joe

 

[DiveCon]

Fewer people screaming means less likelihood that anyone gives a damn about the crap that Goes on. How do you think Al;aska's good ole boy network got away with their shenanigans for so long. The money wasn't coming out of the people's pocket so no one gave a rat's ass about the corruption.

actually, that was what got Sarah Palin elected
she cut taxes and got more returned to the people

So, you guys agree that the people own the resources of the planet and those who have made a personal claim to ownership of our natural resources should be told to go and fuck themselves?!?

Common ground brothers!

-Joe

that depends on who actually owns the land the resources are on
in this case it was state and federal land
in the case of offshore drilling it would depend on the territorial lines

 

[AVG-JOE]

Your jerk starting spending like every day was a sale day at Macys Willow. Pretty hypocritical of you. All Obama is trying to do is clean up the mess of 6 years of repub controlled congress and 8 years of an ijit in the Oval office.

yes,, this "thing we inherited" he fought tooth and nail to inherit,, no,, what he is trying to do is redistribute the wealth and cater to his constituents,, don't try to kid a kidder.

By constituents do you mean the people who elected him?

That is a good thing, yes?

-Joe

 

[WillowTree]

Your jerk starting spending like every day was a sale day at Macys Willow. Pretty hypocritical of you. All Obama is trying to do is clean up the mess of 6 years of repub controlled congress and 8 years of an ijit in the Oval office.

yes,, this "thing we inherited" he fought tooth and nail to inherit,, no,, what he is trying to do is redistribute the wealth and cater to his constituents,, don't try to kid a kidder.

By constituents do you mean the people who elected him?

That is a good thing, yes?

-Joe

you could view it that way,, but give up on the inherited bullshit! he didn't inherit jackshit..

 

[AVG-JOE]

yes,, this "thing we inherited" he fought tooth and nail to inherit,, no,, what he is trying to do is redistribute the wealth and cater to his constituents,, don't try to kid a kidder.

By constituents do you mean the people who elected him?

That is a good thing, yes?

-Joe

you could view it that way,, but give up on the inherited bullshit! he didn't inherit jackshit..

Did you spend the last decade on Planet Earth?

-Joe

 

[DiveCon]

By constituents do you mean the people who elected him?

That is a good thing, yes?

-Joe

you could view it that way,, but give up on the inherited bullshit! he didn't inherit jackshit..

Did you spend the last decade on Planet Earth?

-Joe

you keep thinking the democrats had nothing to do with the shit that passed in the last 8 years