Capitalism Is A Cancer...

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    Socialism is just fine when you are in survival mode. there is a place for it historically, but do you want society to just survive? or live? theres a difference
     
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    Well, then, I guess the argument can be made, there are many kinds of capitalism, and the upshot is, it is a matter of semantics.

    One persons "socialism" is another person's "capitalism." At this point, I think was are just bandying about with definitions. If we don't define what we are talking about, then we can't have a meaningful conversation.

    I thought we were talking about the free enterprise, the right to own land, negotiate prices, etc. If you want to call that socialism, then it seems socialism and capitalism are the same thing.
     
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    I find that there are a lot of livable economic systems. The issue has always been power and greed, and not the existence of currency.

    I envision a world where many left-wing anarchist economic ideologies such as syndicalism, mutalism, and participatory economics can synthesize with the concepts of sustained ownership and currency.

    My belief is that no government should force anyone to live under any economic lifestyle.
     
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    "Communist" (not really) governments have butchered the definitions of socialism and Marxism

    According to Karl Marx, socialism is a revolutionary transitional period towards communism (the abolition of private property, money, and government). Marxism is the ideology that embodies the sociology, theories, and solutions of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.

    Karl Marx offers many contestible and even fallacious arguments, but I do believe he was the best sociologist of the 19th century.
     
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    An inverted totalitarian Oligarchy, like what we have in the United States.

    In the United States, we fool the population into believing we are living in a multi-party democracy where the people have power. In Vietnam, it is an openly one party state that claims to represent the revolution and the interests of the people.
     
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    I love small scale equitable markets.

    What I am not a fan of is the economy of power. Wealth is merely a currency to purchase power, and anti-humans seek to consolidate all the wealth, and therefore all the power.

    Market anarchism combined with a cultural respect for direct action and voluntary association, can theoretically create a society that fairly awards individuals relative to their labor and achievements.
     
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    Not really, no.

    It is just an admission that human beings are better off without power hierarchies.
     
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    Learn the language.
     
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    No, there actually is not.

    If you do not fully respect the freedom to produce currency and own capital, then you are not a capitalist.

    Everyone that claims to be a capitalist is a socialist to me. You know, besides market anarchists.

    The valid definition of capitalism is "owning capital," as was the original definition.

    Yeah, the only distinction today is based on semantics.
     
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    That's true! :)
    I think Ho Chi Minh is turning in his grave (but only when nobody can see him :D)
     

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