Bull Ring Can the universe be used as evidence for a creator. ding vs Soupnazi630

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    Can the universe be used as evidence for a creator?

    ding versus Soupnazi630

    ding will take the position that the universe and everything in it since space and time were created can be used as evidence for a creator.

    Soupnazi630 will take the position that the universe and everything in it since space and time were created can NOT be used as evidence for a creator.

    I will make my opening statement once Soupnazi accepts this challenge.

    I don't believe he will show up.
     
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    I'll take you on if he doesn't. :1peleas:
     
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    OK, you can take his place.

    Can I use something you created as evidence even if I don't know who created it?
     
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    Did I ask too difficult of a question?
     
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    "Evidence"?

    As in our own puny concept and interpretation of it?
     
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    The concept of evidence per se is not beyond the comprehension of man.

    If you created something what you created would be the realization of your intention. What you created would have been created for a purpose. What you created would have been created in steps. What you created would have required intelligence. The more complex your creation the more steps and greater intelligence required.

    So I could determine many of your attributes from studying the EVIDENCE of your tangible creation; your intention, the purpose of it, the steps required to accomplish it and the level of intelligence required to do it.

    Where am I wrong about this?
     
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    Basically what I am telling you is that nature of anything that is tangible is that it can be used as evidence for something and that we can figure these things out by using our own experiences as a proxy. It actually isn't that hard to do.
     
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    The middle paragraph sounds like you are anthropomorphising something.
     
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    What does that even mean?
     
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    I should never have thought you'd ask me a question like that.
     
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