Tehon. What's gawn awn. You may lead. Sub-forum rules apply in favor of stimulating lively and functional debate. I'll be in and out as time permits. Backdrop for caual passers-by... Natural Citizen: Any philosophy that begins by idealizing government will end by idealizing subjugation. History is ripe with replete, Tehon. Ripe indeed. Tehon: You don't understand Marxist theory. It's okay to admit you have never read him outside of maybe the manifesto. Natural Citizen: Tread lightly, Tehon. Tehon: Bring it! Natural Citizen: Okay. I'm getting ready to jump off here, though. I'll start a new thread this evening. I'll whistle for ya.