Calif Raises Cost of 1st Phase of Train to Nowhere by 35% to $10.6B

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The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train









CA is bankrupt so this is the only way the corrupt politicians and bureaucrats can keep their gravy train of graft going.
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train









CA is bankrupt so this is the only way the corrupt politicians and bureaucrats can keep their gravy train of graft going.
The cost will keep going up but it will never get built. That cash cow has nothing to do with trains and everything to do with lining pockets.
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train









CA is bankrupt so this is the only way the corrupt politicians and bureaucrats can keep their gravy train of graft going.
Reminds me of the cities communist China built that no one lives in.

The rise of China's ghost cities
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

I know someone personally who was on the board back in the 80's designing the Bart route ( Bay Area Rapid Transit)
There was a man on the board who owned many of the car dealerships..
This man made sure that it wouldn't be easy to get around the Bay area unless if you have a car..

It has taken more than 30 years to design bart to connect ( still under construction ) so people don't have to drive..

Damn corruption..

If you look at the commuter planes from SF to LA they are full..

This bullet train will open up the roads, connect the cities and with that less fuel and smog..


.
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

I know someone personally who was on the board back in the 80's designing the Bart route ( Bay Area Rapid Transit)
There was a man who owned many of the car dealerships..
This man made sure that it wouldn't be easy to get around the Bay area unless if you have a car..

It has taken more than 30 years to design bart to connect ( still under construction ) so people don't have to drive..

Damn corruption..

If you look at the commuter planes from SF to LA they are full..

This bullet train will open up the roads, connect the cities and with that less fuel and smog..


.
No one will take a 6 hour train when they can fly there in 45 minutes. Even with TSA it's a no-brainer, and the train will end up having a TSA inspection process as well.

And it won't be built. They can't even do it on flat ground in a rural area. What's going to happen when they reach the mountains? The cities with homes crammed in?

DOA just as I said when it was proposed.
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

I know someone personally who was on the board back in the 80's designing the Bart route ( Bay Area Rapid Transit)
There was a man on the board who owned many of the car dealerships..
This man made sure that it wouldn't be easy to get around the Bay area unless if you have a car..

It has taken more than 30 years to design bart to connect ( still under construction ) so people don't have to drive..

Damn corruption..

If you look at the commuter planes from SF to LA they are full..

This bullet train will open up the roads, connect the cities and with that less fuel and smog..


.







A laughable assertion. If the intent was as you claim they would have followed the I5 corridor, instead they are following Highway 99. LOTS of stops at towns that no one go's to from LA. Further they aren't laying new track, they are merely rehabbing freight rail, so there go's the claim of high speed. It is a farce that relies on ignorant people who don't understand the lies they are being told, and clearly, in your case, you don't even care to educate yourself on the subject.
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

I know someone personally who was on the board back in the 80's designing the Bart route ( Bay Area Rapid Transit)
There was a man who owned many of the car dealerships..
This man made sure that it wouldn't be easy to get around the Bay area unless if you have a car..

It has taken more than 30 years to design bart to connect ( still under construction ) so people don't have to drive..

Damn corruption..

If you look at the commuter planes from SF to LA they are full..

This bullet train will open up the roads, connect the cities and with that less fuel and smog..


.
No one will take a 6 hour train when they can fly there in 45 minutes. Even with TSA it's a no-brainer, and the train will end up having a TSA inspection process as well.

And it won't be built. They can't even do it on flat ground in a rural area. What's going to happen when they reach the mountains? The cities with homes crammed in?

DOA just as I said when it was proposed.






A few years ago two reporters left SF to see who would get to LA faster one flew, one drove. The guy who drove beat the flyer to their destination by 35 minutes.
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

I know someone personally who was on the board back in the 80's designing the Bart route ( Bay Area Rapid Transit)
There was a man on the board who owned many of the car dealerships..
This man made sure that it wouldn't be easy to get around the Bay area unless if you have a car..

It has taken more than 30 years to design bart to connect ( still under construction ) so people don't have to drive..

Damn corruption..

If you look at the commuter planes from SF to LA they are full..

This bullet train will open up the roads, connect the cities and with that less fuel and smog..


.

12 hour round trip is convenient????
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

I know someone personally who was on the board back in the 80's designing the Bart route ( Bay Area Rapid Transit)
There was a man who owned many of the car dealerships..
This man made sure that it wouldn't be easy to get around the Bay area unless if you have a car..

It has taken more than 30 years to design bart to connect ( still under construction ) so people don't have to drive..

Damn corruption..

If you look at the commuter planes from SF to LA they are full..

This bullet train will open up the roads, connect the cities and with that less fuel and smog..


.
No one will take a 6 hour train when they can fly there in 45 minutes. Even with TSA it's a no-brainer, and the train will end up having a TSA inspection process as well.

And it won't be built. They can't even do it on flat ground in a rural area. What's going to happen when they reach the mountains? The cities with homes crammed in?

DOA just as I said when it was proposed.






A few years ago two reporters left SF to see who would get to LA faster one flew, one drove. The guy who drove beat the flyer to their destination by 35 minutes.


I one time did that to a co-worker in Dayton Ohio he flew I drove the 5 hours and I beat him back to the office in Chicago.
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

The cost-benefits to the train will more than trickle down to Central California, and when completed to all Californian's in years to come. Some day a POTUS will be elected who is rational, forward thinking and puts our nation first.

The Reader might want to research the cost to invade and occupy Iraq, in terms of total cost in Blood and Treasure, vis a vis the building of rail in CA.

The Transcontinental Railroad during the Civil War is an example of forward thinking. Lincoln signed the bill to build the RR and it paid for itself before the Oil, battery and tire lobby created the system which uses their products.
 
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The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

The cost-benefits to the train will more than trickle down to Central California, and when completed to all Californian's in years to come. Some day a POTUS will be elected who is rational, forward thinking and puts our nation first.

The Reader might want to research the cost to invade and occupy Iraq, in terms of total cost in Blood and Treasure, vis a vis the building of rail in CA.

Lincoln and the Transcontinental Railroad during the Civil War is an example of forward thinking. Lincoln signed the bill to build the RR and it paid for itself before the Oil, battery and tire lobby created the system which uses their products.






The trans continental railroad DID something. Your train from nowhere, to nowhere doesn't do anything except line the pockets of politicians, bureaucrats, and the public employee unions. It is a wholesale robbery of the california populace aided and abetted by criminals in government.
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

I know someone personally who was on the board back in the 80's designing the Bart route ( Bay Area Rapid Transit)
There was a man on the board who owned many of the car dealerships..
This man made sure that it wouldn't be easy to get around the Bay area unless if you have a car..

It has taken more than 30 years to design bart to connect ( still under construction ) so people don't have to drive..

Damn corruption..

If you look at the commuter planes from SF to LA they are full..

This bullet train will open up the roads, connect the cities and with that less fuel and smog..


.







A laughable assertion. If the intent was as you claim they would have followed the I5 corridor, instead they are following Highway 99. LOTS of stops at towns that no one go's to from LA. Further they aren't laying new track, they are merely rehabbing freight rail, so there go's the claim of high speed. It is a farce that relies on ignorant people who don't understand the lies they are being told, and clearly, in your case, you don't even care to educate yourself on the subject.

They are connecting all of the major cities.. of course there will be stops.. but it will take 21/2 hours to get to LA..
Right now the only transport is a Bus, expensive plane which takes 1/2 of a day..Or drive 10 hours..

California High-Speed Rail (abbreviated CAHSR) is a high-speed rail system under construction in California in the United States. It will connect the Anaheim Regional Transportation Intermodal Center in Anaheim and Union Station in Downtown Los Angeles with the Transbay Transit Center in San Francisco via the Central Valley, providing a one-seat ride between Union Station and San Francisco in 2 hours and 40 minutes. Future extensions will connect to stations to San Diego County via the Inland Empire, and to Sacramento. CAHSR will operate on dedicated, grade separated tracks for the entirety of its route between San Jose and Burbank with speeds of up to 220 miles per hour (350 km/h), with early ridership projections for the San Francisco to Los Angeles leg at 28.4 million per year. The San Francisco–San Jose and Los Angeles–Anaheim sections will be shared with local trains in a "blended system". The project is owned and managed by the state of California through the California High-Speed Rail Authority (CAHSRA).

2012_09_chsr.0.jpg
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

The price of a ticket for them to break even will have to be $5000. That's how fucking stupid these rail projects are. There is no mass transit system in the entire USA that is covering its costs.
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

I know someone personally who was on the board back in the 80's designing the Bart route ( Bay Area Rapid Transit)
There was a man who owned many of the car dealerships..
This man made sure that it wouldn't be easy to get around the Bay area unless if you have a car..

It has taken more than 30 years to design bart to connect ( still under construction ) so people don't have to drive..

Damn corruption..

If you look at the commuter planes from SF to LA they are full..

This bullet train will open up the roads, connect the cities and with that less fuel and smog..


.
No one will take a 6 hour train when they can fly there in 45 minutes. Even with TSA it's a no-brainer, and the train will end up having a TSA inspection process as well.

And it won't be built. They can't even do it on flat ground in a rural area. What's going to happen when they reach the mountains? The cities with homes crammed in?

DOA just as I said when it was proposed.

2 1/2 hours Birdman..

Anaheim Regional Transportation Intermodal Center in Anaheim and Union Station in Downtown Los Angeles with the Transbay Transit Center in San Francisco via the Central Valley, providing a one-seat ride between Union Station and San Francisco in 2 hours and 40 minutes.


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The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

I know someone personally who was on the board back in the 80's designing the Bart route ( Bay Area Rapid Transit)
There was a man on the board who owned many of the car dealerships..
This man made sure that it wouldn't be easy to get around the Bay area unless if you have a car..

It has taken more than 30 years to design bart to connect ( still under construction ) so people don't have to drive..

Damn corruption..

If you look at the commuter planes from SF to LA they are full..

This bullet train will open up the roads, connect the cities and with that less fuel and smog..


.







A laughable assertion. If the intent was as you claim they would have followed the I5 corridor, instead they are following Highway 99. LOTS of stops at towns that no one go's to from LA. Further they aren't laying new track, they are merely rehabbing freight rail, so there go's the claim of high speed. It is a farce that relies on ignorant people who don't understand the lies they are being told, and clearly, in your case, you don't even care to educate yourself on the subject.

They are connecting all of the major cities.. of course there will be stops.. but it will take 21/2 hours to get to LA..
Right now the only transport is a Bus, expensive plane which takes 1/2 of a day..Or drive 10 hours..

California High-Speed Rail (abbreviated CAHSR) is a high-speed rail system under construction in California in the United States. It will connect the Anaheim Regional Transportation Intermodal Center in Anaheim and Union Station in Downtown Los Angeles with the Transbay Transit Center in San Francisco via the Central Valley, providing a one-seat ride between Union Station and San Francisco in 2 hours and 40 minutes. Future extensions will connect to stations to San Diego County via the Inland Empire, and to Sacramento. CAHSR will operate on dedicated, grade separated tracks for the entirety of its route between San Jose and Burbank with speeds of up to 220 miles per hour (350 km/h), with early ridership projections for the San Francisco to Los Angeles leg at 28.4 million per year. The San Francisco–San Jose and Los Angeles–Anaheim sections will be shared with local trains in a "blended system". The project is owned and managed by the state of California through the California High-Speed Rail Authority (CAHSRA).

2012_09_chsr.0.jpg







Wow, you read propaganda and actually believe it. You should look at what they are saying, and then compare that with what they are actually DOING.
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

I know someone personally who was on the board back in the 80's designing the Bart route ( Bay Area Rapid Transit)
There was a man on the board who owned many of the car dealerships..
This man made sure that it wouldn't be easy to get around the Bay area unless if you have a car..

It has taken more than 30 years to design bart to connect ( still under construction ) so people don't have to drive..

Damn corruption..

If you look at the commuter planes from SF to LA they are full..

This bullet train will open up the roads, connect the cities and with that less fuel and smog..


.

The ticket prices they charge don't come anywhere near to paying the operating costs of the system, let alone the cost of the capital used to build it.
 
The entire route from LA to San Fran was to cost $9.95B when they suckered the voters into it. This is just for the first phase which is rural flat ground from Merced to Bakersfield. Mountains and urban areas would be the next phases, what are the odds they can do it in budget?

Leftism is a curse upon mankind.

The extra $2.8 billion comes on a 199-mile segment in the Central Valley that is partly under construction. The California High Speed Rail Authority board discussed the increase Tuesday.

The added cost is due to delays in obtaining rights of way and barriers needed along parts of the track, among other things.

It boosts the overall cost of the project to nearly $67 billion, which officials say they hope to recover later.

Cost Climbs By $2.8 Billion For California Bullet Train

The price of a ticket for them to break even will have to be $5000. That's how fucking stupid these rail projects are. There is no mass transit system in the entire USA that is covering its costs.

So are you just making things up now? lol

A rail ride from Los Angeles to San Francisco – a popular route for 5 million air travelers a year – would cost $80 to $90, according to estimates. The trip would take less than three hours to complete


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