Boeing, unions, and the right to work

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    In today's WSJ, there's an op-ed by Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore concerning the Flap about Boeing thrying to build a new plant in South Carolina, a right to work state. You probably know the specifics by now, but the column points out some interesting things:

    As of now there are 22 right to work states and 28 that are not. From 2000-2009 the rtw states have grown faster than their counterparts in virtually every aspect: 54.6% to 41.1% in gross state product, 53.3% to 40.6% in personal income, 11.9% to 6.1% in population, 4.1% to -0.6% in payrolls.

    A 2010 study in the CATO Journal reports that between 2000 and 2008 4.8 million people have moved from a forced-union to a rtw state. And the rtw states had a 23% higher growth rate in per capita income.

    Employers move out of forced-union states for other reasons besides payrolls - like avoiding having to deal with intrusive union rules, the threat of costly union stoppages, lawsuits, paying part of worker salaries and wages to union fat cats, and so on. Didja know that the last work stoppage at Bowing cost the company a billion dollars?

    Seems to me a worker should have the right to unionize and get collective bargaining rights. Private unions that is. But they should also have the right to opt out and/or not pay dues if they don't like how their money is being spent, or don't want to pay dues at all.



    Boeing and the Union Berlin Wall - WSJ.com
     
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    You're preaching to the choir. With all of the legal protections workers have now, unions are an anachronism. We probably have more lawyers now than union folks.
     
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    By having "right to work", you keep the unions honest. I don't want any unions giving my dues to politicians of any political party. Not having right to work laws is what liberals want. Then they can cry when their jobs go overseas from their own policies, but instead will blame those greedy republican corporotists. They're dumber than a monkey fuckin' a racoon.
     
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    Competition is a major factor here, as it is with capitalism in general.

    Unions demand their wages, while non-union workers wages are based on supply and demand principals.

    So of course the states that have an option are doing better because the wages aren't loony and are actually based on economics.

    In the non-right to work states union labor is extremely expensive hence the products they manufacture cost more.
     
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    Correct. And as a matter of course? Gubmint tends to SIDE with the Socialistics of the UNIONS...and pays them handsomely for it for support of politicians.
     
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    Yep...

    The democrats favor the unions and the unions pay them back with votes.

    Its crazy...
     
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    Not only crazy...but coercion, money laundering...and ILLEGAL.
     
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    Of course, but no one cares..

    All that nonsense is slowly going to come to an end now that republicans are more libertarian oriented.
     
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    I love when Conservatives call for government regulation of private contracts....
     
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    And who is calling for government?

    Not me...

    Government can go fuck off.....
     
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