for what its worth, one poll. Giethner has been massaging the actual drop dead date. Look for more of that based on whether Obama thinks he winning the argument or not. Americans Oppose Raising Debt Ceiling, 47% to 19% Thirty-four percent don't know enough about the issue to say by Dennis Jacobe, Chief Economist PRINCETON, NJ -- By a 47% to 19% margin, Americans say they would want their member of Congress to vote against raising the U.S. debt ceiling, while 34% don't know enough to say. Republicans oppose raising the debt ceiling by 70% to 8% and independents by 46% to 15%. Democrats favor raising the ceiling by 33% to 26%. May 2011: Americans' Feelings About Raising the Federal Debt Ceiling, Among All Americans and by Party ID These results are based on a May 5-8 Gallup poll, which asked Americans about the issue but did not offer reasons for or against raising the debt ceiling. The Congress is generally expected to pass debt ceiling legislation, although it is unclear what additional provisions will be needed in order to secure passage. Majority of Americans Are Following Debt Ceiling Issue A majority of Americans (57%) say they are closely following the news about "discussions to raise the U.S. debt ceiling, the maximum amount of money the U.S. government can borrow by law." Republicans are following the issue more closely than are Democrats and independents; upper-income Americans are following it more closely than lower-income Americans; and those with a postgraduate education more so than those with a high school education or less. Americans Oppose Raising Debt Ceiling, 47% to 19% thoughts of mine- a)theres a LOT of room for persuasion in that 34%, Obama needs them, badly. b)the number of Indies at 46% is big and the one Obama will be watching as well. c) the dems will lose the argument, and they will lose it becasue they cannot be flexible, they are are ideologically wed to entitlements and distributional gov. machinations...thats not a knock, it is what it is folks. They will lose the Public Opinion battle becasue no matter what games they play, they have offered NOTHING substantive as in, logical and serious as to cuts and NOTHING in the biggest and most meaningful area for cuts, that we all know exists- entitlements......even if one disagrees with a/the rep plan, or suggestions for cits, they, have offered one and they are seen as the drivers right now to contain costs etc etc etc..this is resonating, like it or not. People, namely indies and centrist dems will and appear to be already there or trending ) get tired of the games of the political BS, blaming the reps for wanting to kill granny, rob SS etc etc etc .... this won't fly the way it did in the 90's, the circumstances are way to dire and everyone but the 20% or so ( which exist on each side) who are party whores, knows it.