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arch Madness shouldbe happenning to Div 1college football
Bama/LSU repeat was a disgrace in the bcs
They may both have been good football teams - but I have seen beter
and both will no ddoubt be highly ranked in 2012
They both sucked
arch Madness shouldbe happenning to Div 1college football
Bama/LSU repeat was a disgrace in the bcs
They may both have been good football teams - but I have seen beter
and both will no ddoubt be highly ranked in 2012
I find that 95% of people who have a plan for a college football playoff have a plan that is totally unrealistic. Nearly 100% of these people rarely or never go to a college football game.
I have to agree that LSU/Bama playing for the National Championship fails... but what would you do about it?
The best college team of all time was the 1972 USC Trojans - Newsweek had an articleon them titled "Southern Cals Super Bowl." (the best team that has ever been coached???)
The best college team of all time was the 1972 USC Trojans - Newsweek had an articleon them titled "Southern Cals Super Bowl." (the best team that has ever been coached???)
NCAA is run by a bunch of short sighted idiots
They are in love with their bowl games which are nothing but exhibition games. They dont mean anything because they don't prove anything
Who cares if the number 3 team from one conference beats the number 2 team from another?
And why would you have a regular season, stop in November and then pick it up again in January?
NCAA is run by a bunch of short sighted idiots
They are in love with their bowl games which are nothing but exhibition games. They dont mean anything because they don't prove anything
Who cares if the number 3 team from one conference beats the number 2 team from another?
And why would you have a regular season, stop in November and then pick it up again in January?
You say this because you're not a college football fan. You may love football and you may follow college football, but there's not a team that you go and watch on Saturday. If you did you would understand the rationale behind the bowl game schedules.
I've heard alot of cocakmamie schemes for a college football playoff over the years. Go ahead and tell us yours. Just keep in mind 3 things.
1. All post-season football games have to serve alcohol to be financially realistic.
2. People have to be given some notice to be able to make plans to travel 1000+ miles to attend a game.
3. Attendance is really important and it's the biggest problem most bowl games have.
Now tell me your plan, since you're so much smarter than the NCAA idiots.
NCAA is run by a bunch of short sighted idiots
They are in love with their bowl games which are nothing but exhibition games. They dont mean anything because they don't prove anything
Who cares if the number 3 team from one conference beats the number 2 team from another?
And why would you have a regular season, stop in November and then pick it up again in January?
You say this because you're not a college football fan. You may love football and you may follow college football, but there's not a team that you go and watch on Saturday. If you did you would understand the rationale behind the bowl game schedules.
I've heard alot of cocakmamie schemes for a college football playoff over the years. Go ahead and tell us yours. Just keep in mind 3 things.
1. All post-season football games have to serve alcohol to be financially realistic.
2. People have to be given some notice to be able to make plans to travel 1000+ miles to attend a game.
3. Attendance is really important and it's the biggest problem most bowl games have.
Now tell me your plan, since you're so much smarter than the NCAA idiots.
This is going to be hard....
Eight teams are selected for the Div 1 playoffs after conference championships are completed. That means there are seven games to play that actually mean something. The rest of the teams can play meaningless bowl games if they want to feel important
Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Cotton Bowl and two at large bowls are selected to host. First round (4 games) happens mid December two weeks after the regular season ends. Second round (2 games) are held New Years Day, Rose Bowl is one of these games. Championship is held mid January at a rotating site like the SuperBowl.
1 Beer is mandatory of course
2 Fans have two weeks notice to buy tickets and make travel arrangements. NFL fans do it. NCAA Basketball fans do it. If you can't make it, someone else will buy the ticket. Stub Hub is amazing at filling seats
3 Attendance and TV ratings will go through the roof because the games are not for bragging rights, they lead to a championship
I bet my way makes more money and draws more nationwide interest than a hodgepodge of meaningless bowls
This is going to be hard....
Eight teams are selected for the Div 1 playoffs after conference championships are completed. That means there are seven games to play that actually mean something. The rest of the teams can play meaningless bowl games if they want to feel important
Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Cotton Bowl and two at large bowls are selected to host. First round (4 games) happens mid December two weeks after the regular season ends. Second round (2 games) are held New Years Day, Rose Bowl is one of these games. Championship is held mid January at a rotating site like the SuperBowl.
I don't see short notice as being much of a detriment to the tournament. The SEC Championship is often not locked until the final game of the season, which is only a week away from the Championship.
College football has fans unlike any other game. We are fanatics. If you have our team in a bowl game, we will fill the stands (with or without beer).
I don't see short notice as being much of a detriment to the tournament. The SEC Championship is often not locked until the final game of the season, which is only a week away from the Championship.
They drive.
Like my Huskers turning Notre Dame Stadium into a sea of red - if they can drive they will go. Southerners are accustomed to driving to Atlanta for one reason or another from time to time.
Hold the SEC championship in Seattle and see what happens.
College football has fans unlike any other game. We are fanatics. If you have our team in a bowl game, we will fill the stands (with or without beer).
Nope. Bowl games are mostly sparsely attended. I don't think you're going to get too many college football fan bases who can represent a good crowd at 3 separate contests in faraway cities. I was in Yankee Stadium in December and Rutgers couldn't make a good showing in their own back yard.
This is going to be hard....
Eight teams are selected for the Div 1 playoffs after conference championships are completed. That means there are seven games to play that actually mean something. The rest of the teams can play meaningless bowl games if they want to feel important
Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Cotton Bowl and two at large bowls are selected to host. First round (4 games) happens mid December two weeks after the regular season ends. Second round (2 games) are held New Years Day, Rose Bowl is one of these games. Championship is held mid January at a rotating site like the SuperBowl.
'Bout as cockamamie as all the rest. There are alot of problems here - so I'll just start with one.
The Rose Bowl is a game between the PAC champ and the B1G champ. Despite the fact that that it's played on a PAC home field the B1G just seems to love the Rose Bowl in Pasadena. The only real reason we have a BCS is because my beloved Huskers gave the B1G fits back in '94 and '97.... they still didn't give up their stinkin' Rose Bowl. Maybe one of these years my Huskers will thump the Buffs in the Rose Bowl. That would be the one game I never would have expected in a million years.
So the Bowl Games aren't owned by the NCAA and the NCAA only has limited control over what it can tell them they can and cannot do. The Orange Bowl isn't going to be played on 12/15.
I'll ignore the numerous other problems with your system temporarily and focus a bit on how you feel that you would select your "Eight Teams". Here are the week 15 rankings from 2011. I presume the season is still fresh in your mind.
Who gets a shot and who doesn't? How are the eight selected? How are they seeded?
1 LSU 13-0
2 Alabama 11-1
3 Oklahoma State 11-1
4 Stanford 11-1
5 Oregon 11-2
6 Arkansas 10-2
7 Boise State 11-1
8 Kansas State 10-2
9 South Carolina 10-2
10 Wisconsin 11-2
11 Virginia Tech 11-2
12 Baylor 9-3
13 Michigan 10-2
14 Oklahoma 9-3
15 Clemson 10-3
16 Georgia 10-3
17 Michigan State 10-3
18 TCU 10-2
19 Houston 12-1
20 Nebraska 9-3
21 Southern Miss 11-2
22 Penn State 9-3
23 West Virginia 9-3
24 Texas 7-5
25 Auburn 7-5
We drive? Alabama took 30,000 fans to a game in hawaii. Hold it in Seattle and we'll fill the place to the rafters. In the BCS Championship in Pasadena CA there were over 94,000 fans in attendance. Tuscaloosa is a bit over 2,000 miles from Pasadena, and Austin Texas is almost 1,400 miles from the Rose Bowl. And the Rose Bowl lists its seating capacity as 90,000+.
Sorry, but I remain completely unconvinced
First off.....the Rose Bowl is a joke. nobody cares. If a Pac 10 or Big 10 team makes the BCS Championship game(think USC) they get the second place team. So what have they proved? The Bowls may own the game, but they don't own the teams that play in them. Rose Bowl doesnt want to play in the Championship format? Let them arrange to get teams outside the top 8 and see how their attendance is
Conferences are also a joke right now with teams jumping back and forth. It would not be hard to rearrange conferences to fit in an at championship format.
How to pick teams? Needs to be worked out. You could go straight BCS type ranking 1 through 8. Or you could give select super conferences (5 teams) automatic bids and select the other 3 at large. Seeding by committee
Still better than selecting an LSU - Alabama rematch
Now, give me a real reason an eight team playoff format won't work. Your reasoning has been pretty lame so far
Sorry, but I remain completely unconvinced
First off.....the Rose Bowl is a joke. nobody cares. If a Pac 10 or Big 10 team makes the BCS Championship game(think USC) they get the second place team. So what have they proved? The Bowls may own the game, but they don't own the teams that play in them. Rose Bowl doesnt want to play in the Championship format? Let them arrange to get teams outside the top 8 and see how their attendance is
Conferences are also a joke right now with teams jumping back and forth. It would not be hard to rearrange conferences to fit in an at championship format.
How to pick teams? Needs to be worked out. You could go straight BCS type ranking 1 through 8. Or you could give select super conferences (5 teams) automatic bids and select the other 3 at large. Seeding by committee
Still better than selecting an LSU - Alabama rematch
Now, give me a real reason an eight team playoff format won't work. Your reasoning has been pretty lame so far
Son, I'm not the one who needs to be convincing you. It's the other way around. I don't contend that an 8 team playoff is impossible. Your 8 team playoff would never work because you didn't think it through completely or carefeully.
The Rose Bowl may be a joke to you, but the B1G loves it and therefore it will persevere. I know that you think that the SEC will continue to enjoy permanent domination of college football from now unti eternity, but something tells me that some team from one of those other minor confrences, the B1G, the Big 12, the PAC 12, the ACC - just maybe one of them will manage to field a halfway decent team one of these years.
I don't see why half the best teams in college football would be willing to risk ending their seasons in mid-December and I don't see why the best bowls would give up their coveted January slots. The financial implications of one team winning 3 bowl games are unsettling. It sounds like the richest gettting much richer.
So I ask again - you have the 2011 week 15 rankings right there. Who would play whom and where and when? How would your 8 team playoff work. We already established that you have relegated the Big East to "minor conference" status.