As many as 10 dead in shooting at Batman premiere in Denver: reports

[Peter Dow]

New topic in the Conspiracy Theories forum

Colorado shooter Holmes poisoned by anti-psychotic drugs?

 

[JOSweetHeart]

Not too long ago, I saw one of the victims talking about how he feels after all of this has happened. His arm was in a sling and he was shown walking very slowly. Anyways, this guy is actually forgiving the movie theater murderer for all that he has done! While I think that it is great that he actually can forgive when so many won't, but to me, he should not forgive until the forgiveness is asked for first because I believe that automatically forgiving someone is pretty much giving them your permission to do the wrong again.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. I say all of that because I told someone once that I forgave them for what they did to me even though they never asked me to and eventually they went on to doing that same wrong to me again.

 

[Againsheila]

Not too long ago, I saw one of the victims talking about how he feels after all of this has happened. His arm was in a sling and he was shown walking very slowly. Anyways, this guy is actually forgiving the movie theater murderer for all that he has done! While I think that it is great that he actually can forgive when so many won't, but to me, he should not forgive until the forgiveness is asked for first because I believe that automatically forgiving someone is pretty much giving them your permission to do the wrong again.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. I say all of that because I told someone once that I forgave them for what they did to me even though they never asked me to and eventually they went on to doing that same wrong to me again.

forgiving someone isn't for them, it's for you. It keeps the hate from eating you up.

BTW, you can forgive without forgetting...

 

[Noomi]

Not too long ago, I saw one of the victims talking about how he feels after all of this has happened. His arm was in a sling and he was shown walking very slowly. Anyways, this guy is actually forgiving the movie theater murderer for all that he has done! While I think that it is great that he actually can forgive when so many won't, but to me, he should not forgive until the forgiveness is asked for first because I believe that automatically forgiving someone is pretty much giving them your permission to do the wrong again.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. I say all of that because I told someone once that I forgave them for what they did to me even though they never asked me to and eventually they went on to doing that same wrong to me again.

It would take a huge amount of soul searching and courage to forgive the person who injured you and killed others. I am not sure if I could do it, but for this person, at least they are not carrying around so much hatred and anger.

 

[beagle9]

Not too long ago, I saw one of the victims talking about how he feels after all of this has happened. His arm was in a sling and he was shown walking very slowly. Anyways, this guy is actually forgiving the movie theater murderer for all that he has done! While I think that it is great that he actually can forgive when so many won't, but to me, he should not forgive until the forgiveness is asked for first because I believe that automatically forgiving someone is pretty much giving them your permission to do the wrong again.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. I say all of that because I told someone once that I forgave them for what they did to me even though they never asked me to and eventually they went on to doing that same wrong to me again.

It would take a huge amount of soul searching and courage to forgive the person who injured you and killed others. I am not sure if I could do it, but for this person, at least they are not carrying around so much hatred and anger.

I would have to see it through until justice was served up in the order in which to meet the crimes committed, because who would I think that I am, that I could forgive this killer in the face of all that he had done or as if to suggest that I was the only one who needed to in a selfish kind of way, while others struggle with the severe pain and suffering this guy has brought upon them and their familes?

 

[Uncensored2008]

forgiving someone isn't for them, it's for you. It keeps the hate from eating you up.

BTW, you can forgive without forgetting...

Good point.

The Buddha said that holding onto hate is like snatching red hot coals from the fire with your bare hands, intending to throw them at another. While you may harm the other, you will be the one harmed most.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

Even if I were in that guy's position and forgave just like him, I would not go so far to actually going on record and letting the whole planet know that I forgave because when it comes down to it all the way, to me, whether a person forgives or not should only be between themselves, the Lord, and the person that they forgive. It is no one else's business.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[IndependntLogic]

To use your fire problem analogy, your solution is to take away the Fire Dept and turn off the water.

Wait. You mean the GOVERNMENT EMPLOYED AND TRAINED AND LICENSED AND CONSTANTLY TESTED FIRE DEPT??? Great analogy! You're right! people wanting to own guns should be required to go through proper training, have to get a license, be employed and Well Regulated by the government etc... Wow! You're more radical than I am!

Fire Depts weren't always government employed and trained. Most used to be and some still are volunteers. Concerned citizens who cared about and wanted to protect their communities.

Sort of like a militia.

Hmmm. So they're not trained? Certified? They're not Well-Regulated?
Interesting belief. Even the volunteer firefighters I know, have to go through rigorous training, certification and are VERY regulated before they ever step out of the firehouse...
So again, nice analogy.

 

[ConzHateUSA]

Do we have some con on here advocating for private fire depts?

Hope not, I know a bunch of firemen who will wanna kick your ass in that case.

 

[Dr Grump]

I know. All those multi-loading rock throwing devices that were deliberating designed to kill humans should be banned.

Unlike the AK47 or M16, which were primarily designed as hood ornaments for 67 Mustangs...

Say Gump, which kills more people in a year in the USA, AK47's or Ford Mustangs?

Would it surprise a sheep shagging socialist like you to learn that automobiles are the #1 weapon in homicide in America? And yes, I'm sure that Obama would love to outlaw the private ownership of motor vehicles by the commoners, however the justification isn't based on homicides but on Gaea worship.

Hey NoSense, what is a car designed to do? What is a firearm designed to do?
C'mon Einstein, I know you can do this...I'll even give you a hint - comparing apples and oranges is a strawman

 

[beagle9]

It is my belief possibly, that this Holmes cat was following more so a Christian Bale character, as was also being played in the movie "Equilibrium" having a big action scene in the form of a huge shoot out, more so than him just being tied to the single Batman movie. Why have I come to this conclusion or thought you might ask, it is all due to the Movie "EQILIBRIUM" staring the actor Christian Bale also that is why.. I was just watching this movie, and it was amazing how it had this fantastic shoot out scene, where as It could have been added to this killers fantasies very easily also in profile of, so has the expansion of this case been broadened for profiling purposes in concerns with this cat maybe a little more now, and this in concerning the figuring out just how far this cat's mind was down the fantasy trail, and where that trail might lead us in being the one where reality and fiction became a blur to someone like him, who had serious issues in his personal life badly already? Take a look at this film and then get back to me on what you think when see the ultimate shoot out scene in the film. One could easily imagine this Holmes thinking he was Christian Bales character in this movie as well. Did Batman have a gun scene or shoot out scene that equaited to this movie Equilibrium ? Man talk about an eye opener when seen this scene.. If this is relevant to the case, then it could point the finger also at Hollywood yet again, especially when it comes to influencing the young phsycotic mind in America in these ways..

 

[MuadDib]

Wait. You mean the GOVERNMENT EMPLOYED AND TRAINED AND LICENSED AND CONSTANTLY TESTED FIRE DEPT??? Great analogy! You're right! people wanting to own guns should be required to go through proper training, have to get a license, be employed and Well Regulated by the government etc... Wow! You're more radical than I am!

Fire Depts weren't always government employed and trained. Most used to be and some still are volunteers. Concerned citizens who cared about and wanted to protect their communities.

Sort of like a militia.

Hmmm. So they're not trained? Certified? They're not Well-Regulated?
Interesting belief. Even the volunteer firefighters I know, have to go through rigorous training, certification and are VERY regulated before they ever step out of the firehouse...
So again, nice analogy.

I didn't say that, but do continue making shit up. It's mildly entertaining.

 

[saveliberty]

Most of our voluteer firefighters couldn't pass the Presidential Fitness Test.

 

[MuadDib]

Most of our voluteer firefighters couldn't pass the Presidential Fitness Test.

Neither could Obama.

Oh! You mean the physical fitness test.

 

[JohnA]

I know. All those multi-loading rock throwing devices that were deliberating designed to kill humans should be banned.

Unlike the AK47 or M16, which were primarily designed as hood ornaments for 67 Mustangs...

Say Gump, which kills more people in a year in the USA, AK47's or Ford Mustangs?

Would it surprise a sheep shagging socialist like you to learn that automobiles are the #1 weapon in homicide in America? And yes, I'm sure that Obama would love to outlaw the private ownership of motor vehicles by the commoners, however the justification isn't based on homicides but on Gaea worship.

Hey NoSense, what is a car designed to do? What is a firearm designed to do?
C'mon Einstein, I know you can do this...I'll even give you a hint - comparing apples and oranges is a strawman

cars are designed to move you around, fire arms are designed to protect you from aggression

next question
swimming pools are designed for pleasure many more kids are drowned in a swimming pool than are killed by firearms
next question

 

[Uncensored2008]

Hey NoSense, what is a car designed to do? What is a firearm designed to do?

Hey sheepshagger, which kills more people in homicides each year?

C'mon Einstein, I know you can do this...I'll even give you a hint - comparing apples and oranges is a strawman

C'mon Gump, quit building the straw man for a moment and answer...

I'll grant you that logical fallacy is closest you'll ever get to logic.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I didn't say that, but do continue making shit up. It's mildly entertaining.

Bear in mind that "regulated" in the use of the 2nd means "armed." When it says a "well regulated militia," it means "a well armed militia."

I am unacquainted with the extent of your works, and consequently ignorant of the number or men necessary to man them. If your present numbers should be insufficient for that purpose, I would then by all means advise your making up the deficiency out of the best regulated militia that can be got.
--- George Washington (The Writings of George Washington, pp. 503-4, (G.P. Putnam & Sons, pub.)(1889))

It referred to "regulation arms." A regulated militia is one ready to fight, with both weapons and munitions needed to do so.

 

[Uncensored2008]

cars are designed to move you around, fire arms are designed to protect you from aggression

next question
swimming pools are designed for pleasure many more kids are drowned in a swimming pool than are killed by firearms
next question

You are far more likely to suffer an unlawful death at that hands of another person driving a car, than holding a gun.

It's a fact that Gump is desperate to evade.

 

[JohnA]

Hey NoSense, what is a car designed to do? What is a firearm designed to do?

More info (facts ) that you seem to ignore
police carry guns .. not to kill people but to DEFEND themselves when under attack
guns are designed to DEFEND
get with the programe idiot

 

[beagle9]

Hey NoSense, what is a car designed to do? What is a firearm designed to do?

More info (facts ) that you seem to ignore
police carry guns .. not to kill people but to DEFEND themselves when under attack
guns are designed to DEFEND
get with the programe idiot

Yep, and if defend means to kill an attacker with the weapon that you are choosing and then using to defend yourself with, then so be it, as long as it is done in defense of ones own life found in the rules of self defense or in regards to the lives of someone else who is innocent and being threatened to be killed or is actually being attacked to be killed then so be it also, just as long as it is not being done in aggression of by the man or woman holding the gun and/or the carrier of a weapon, then so be it.. I agree!