Are the bans on gay marriage religious?

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    For the life of me I do not understand the fight about gay marriage

    Marriage is a civil right. (and responsibility) The churches have no authority to marry anyone save that authority vested in them by the state". The churches need not perform or recognize any marriage whatsoever. The Catholics certainly have many requirements in meeting their desires which have no validity in law. That is their right but they may not foist their preferences on us all.

    The bias against gay marriage is purely religious in nature as is the (for lack of a better word) hatred of gays. Allowing gays to marry in no way diminishes, or elevates, my marriage. This is a total non issue in the sense of it being detrimental to straights. It means a lot in the legal and economic sense to those who cannot marry

    That being said it will be the civil rights issue of this century. Ever so slowly the churches are losing their grip as the general population begins to see the bigotry of it all.

    Can't happen too soon.
     
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    The bias against gay marriage is purely political in nature, nnot religious. Read what others in here are saying regarding the states role in marriage. It is the politicians that have made this an issue by usurping marriage as a legal matter instead of a religious one.

    If the state was only there to uphold individual rights based on contractual agreements, this issue would be left strictly to the churches that marry folks in the religious fashion. But the government loves to have this carrot dangling for everyonne to fuss over. It allows many other intrusions on peoples lives and relationships, while fostering a divide and conquer status of the issue.
     
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    I disagree, one of the primary biases against homosexuals (and by extension) Same-sex Civil Marriage is based on religion and it's condemnation of homosexual relationships as - as the Bible puts it - an "abomination".


    The funny thing is that no one really pissed-and-moaned about the legal aspects of Civil Marriage for hundreds of years. People were just fine with politicians making "marriage" a function of Civil Law - it was only recently (with the last two decades) that people complain about politicians and marriage once homosexuals started pursuing equal treatment under the law.

    Suddenly "government involvement" is a bad thing. Funny how it was good and accepted until the homosexuals wanted it just like straight couples.



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    More than you.
     
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    The institution of marriage has been in existence for thousands of years and everyone knows exactly what it is. Let's define what exactly in the issue before us. How do we give the LGBT community the same legal rights as existing that marriage partners have?

    Simple. The government proposes an amendment issuing Civil Unions giving the same rights to to the LGBT community so they can have the families and rights given to the rest of the population.

    This protects the church from mandating them to perform marriages against the accepted doctrines at the same time giving the same rights to everyone in the nation.
     
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    I would assume so, since I don't think government should get out of the marriage business. But, please...go on. Tell us what you've done so far.
     
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    When has that ever, ever been a danger?
     
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    What I have done wouldn't matter to you if you don't think the same way.
    It would only be used as future fodder.
     
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    I see....nothing but lip service. Ok.
     
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    so, nothing

    shocker, really
     

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