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Nothing you're saying has anything to do with making Medicare more affordable. Letting corporations do whatever the fuck they want is not going to make healthcare services affordable.There is already a private side to Medicare, known as Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements. MA plans are subsidized by the government and many offer $0 monthly premiums and $0 or low co-pays for many services, plus helpful free cost-shaving goodies like senior health club memberships.Seriously, if Medicare became private, HOW would it be made affordable for the poor? You don't know the answer to that question and neither does Paul Ryan.
Right. How educated are you on these plans?Stop pretending like you even understand this issue.
Expand Medicare/Medicare Supplements/Medicare Advantage to all. Public and private. Market competition and innovation combined with a public foundation. It works well.
I would guess that at least 80% of Americans wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about, but that doesn't stop the simplistic rhetoric.
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lol ok there's a simple fact you arent picking up on here. If Medicare becomes totally privatized, there wouldn't be any regulations would there?You clearly have no idea how carefully regulated the private Medicare industry is. You clearly don't know how the utilization curve explodes after age 65, and how having young people on the plan would bend costs down.Nothing you're saying has anything to do with making Medicare more affordable. Letting corporations do whatever the fuck they want is not going to make healthcare services affordable.There is already a private side to Medicare, known as Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements. MA plans are subsidized by the government and many offer $0 monthly premiums and $0 or low co-pays for many services, plus helpful free cost-shaving goodies like senior health club memberships.Seriously, if Medicare became private, HOW would it be made affordable for the poor? You don't know the answer to that question and neither does Paul Ryan.
Right. How educated are you on these plans?Stop pretending like you even understand this issue.
Expand Medicare/Medicare Supplements/Medicare Advantage to all. Public and private. Market competition and innovation combined with a public foundation. It works well.
I would guess that at least 80% of Americans wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about, but that doesn't stop the simplistic rhetoric.
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Educate yourself on these plans and the Medicare system and get back to me. I'm sure there's a ton of videos on Medicare, Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements on YouTube.
You don't know what you're talking about here.
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I know you all love to bitch about ObamaCare, but medical expenses were still on the rise and poor people generally couldn't afford health insurance before it was passed. Costs are rising, but at least 20 million people now have health insurance. NOTHING is stopping these costs from continuing to rise if the law is repealed. Are you really stupid to believe that letting insurance companies do whatever they want is going to lower costs? How about prescription drug prices specifically? WHAT will keep those prices from going up? Even if they wouldn't go up, they sure as hell aren't going down.
Seriously, if Medicare became private, HOW would it be made affordable for the poor? You don't know the answer to that question and neither does Paul Ryan. Stop pretending like you even understand this issue.
It blows my mind someone has to explain this to you.
Good gawd. I'll keep this as simple as I can.lol ok there's a simple fact you arent picking up on here. If Medicare becomes totally privatized, there wouldn't be any regulations would there?You clearly have no idea how carefully regulated the private Medicare industry is. You clearly don't know how the utilization curve explodes after age 65, and how having young people on the plan would bend costs down.Nothing you're saying has anything to do with making Medicare more affordable. Letting corporations do whatever the fuck they want is not going to make healthcare services affordable.There is already a private side to Medicare, known as Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements. MA plans are subsidized by the government and many offer $0 monthly premiums and $0 or low co-pays for many services, plus helpful free cost-shaving goodies like senior health club memberships.Seriously, if Medicare became private, HOW would it be made affordable for the poor? You don't know the answer to that question and neither does Paul Ryan.
Right. How educated are you on these plans?Stop pretending like you even understand this issue.
Expand Medicare/Medicare Supplements/Medicare Advantage to all. Public and private. Market competition and innovation combined with a public foundation. It works well.
I would guess that at least 80% of Americans wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about, but that doesn't stop the simplistic rhetoric.
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Educate yourself on these plans and the Medicare system and get back to me. I'm sure there's a ton of videos on Medicare, Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements on YouTube.
You don't know what you're talking about here.
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No, Medicare covers roughly 80% of provider-negotiated costs.Nothing you're saying has anything to do with making Medicare more affordable. Letting corporations do whatever the fuck they want is not going to make healthcare services affordable.There is already a private side to Medicare, known as Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements. MA plans are subsidized by the government and many offer $0 monthly premiums and $0 or low co-pays for many services, plus helpful free cost-shaving goodies like senior health club memberships.Seriously, if Medicare became private, HOW would it be made affordable for the poor? You don't know the answer to that question and neither does Paul Ryan.
Right. How educated are you on these plans?Stop pretending like you even understand this issue.
Expand Medicare/Medicare Supplements/Medicare Advantage to all. Public and private. Market competition and innovation combined with a public foundation. It works well.
I would guess that at least 80% of Americans wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about, but that doesn't stop the simplistic rhetoric.
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And the far left drone religious narrative runs without question or hesitation when shown reality and facts!
I one relies solely on Medicare it would only pay 40% of the costs. There are lost of private companies that help pay the rest, many even help you manage to Medicare for you!
Silly far left drone!
Good god dude. You're strictly talking about Medicare right now and I am not. What you want for Medicare is besides the point. I am referring to what Medicare will become when the program becomes completely privatized. Everything you're saying about Medicare now is irrelevant to the point. What matters is Paul'a actual plan.Good gawd. I'll keep this as simple as I can.lol ok there's a simple fact you arent picking up on here. If Medicare becomes totally privatized, there wouldn't be any regulations would there?You clearly have no idea how carefully regulated the private Medicare industry is. You clearly don't know how the utilization curve explodes after age 65, and how having young people on the plan would bend costs down.Nothing you're saying has anything to do with making Medicare more affordable. Letting corporations do whatever the fuck they want is not going to make healthcare services affordable.There is already a private side to Medicare, known as Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements. MA plans are subsidized by the government and many offer $0 monthly premiums and $0 or low co-pays for many services, plus helpful free cost-shaving goodies like senior health club memberships.Seriously, if Medicare became private, HOW would it be made affordable for the poor? You don't know the answer to that question and neither does Paul Ryan.
Right. How educated are you on these plans?Stop pretending like you even understand this issue.
Expand Medicare/Medicare Supplements/Medicare Advantage to all. Public and private. Market competition and innovation combined with a public foundation. It works well.
I would guess that at least 80% of Americans wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about, but that doesn't stop the simplistic rhetoric.
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Educate yourself on these plans and the Medicare system and get back to me. I'm sure there's a ton of videos on Medicare, Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements on YouTube.
You don't know what you're talking about here.
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Medicare is a public service delivery/payment system. Medicare Advantage plans and Medicare Supplements work WITH Medicare plans to cover the large gaps in Medicare coverage.
You don't even know THAT?
What I want is an expansion of that to all. Just as it is. Not "totally privatized".
Jeez, stop by YouTube for a while.
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lol there is nothing you post that makes me believe you have a master's in economics.Your stupidity amazes me. You have no idea what kind of economy you are living in. I know it makes you feel superior to say "get a job derp, derp, derp!" but really it just demonstrates your complete ignorance about this subject.I know you all love to bitch about ObamaCare, but medical expenses were still on the rise and poor people generally couldn't afford health insurance before it was passed. Costs are rising, but at least 20 million people now have health insurance. NOTHING is stopping these costs from continuing to rise if the law is repealed. Are you really stupid to believe that letting insurance companies do whatever they want is going to lower costs? How about prescription drug prices specifically? WHAT will keep those prices from going up? Even if they wouldn't go up, they sure as hell aren't going down.
Seriously, if Medicare became private, HOW would it be made affordable for the poor? You don't know the answer to that question and neither does Paul Ryan. Stop pretending like you even understand this issue.
It blows my mind someone has to explain this to you.
I want free stuff, WAAAAH!
Do these guys ever have anything else to say. GET A JOB.
Oh, really...
I have master's in economics, what do you have? Bunch of whine, desperation and butthurt.
Did you get that job yet? Turns out it really helps.
You're so full of shit and clearly stupid.lol there is nothing you post that makes me believe you have a master's in economics.Your stupidity amazes me. You have no idea what kind of economy you are living in. I know it makes you feel superior to say "get a job derp, derp, derp!" but really it just demonstrates your complete ignorance about this subject.I know you all love to bitch about ObamaCare, but medical expenses were still on the rise and poor people generally couldn't afford health insurance before it was passed. Costs are rising, but at least 20 million people now have health insurance. NOTHING is stopping these costs from continuing to rise if the law is repealed. Are you really stupid to believe that letting insurance companies do whatever they want is going to lower costs? How about prescription drug prices specifically? WHAT will keep those prices from going up? Even if they wouldn't go up, they sure as hell aren't going down.
Seriously, if Medicare became private, HOW would it be made affordable for the poor? You don't know the answer to that question and neither does Paul Ryan. Stop pretending like you even understand this issue.
It blows my mind someone has to explain this to you.
I want free stuff, WAAAAH!
Do these guys ever have anything else to say. GET A JOB.
Oh, really...
I have master's in economics, what do you have? Bunch of whine, desperation and butthurt.
Did you get that job yet? Turns out it really helps.
And there is nothing in your post that makes me believe you have a job.
I do have master's... might even snag a PHD later.
Of course there would be regulations. There were regulations before Obama was elected, they just got tighter and more abundant.lol ok there's a simple fact you arent picking up on here. If Medicare becomes totally privatized, there wouldn't be any regulations would there?You clearly have no idea how carefully regulated the private Medicare industry is. You clearly don't know how the utilization curve explodes after age 65, and how having young people on the plan would bend costs down.Nothing you're saying has anything to do with making Medicare more affordable. Letting corporations do whatever the fuck they want is not going to make healthcare services affordable.There is already a private side to Medicare, known as Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements. MA plans are subsidized by the government and many offer $0 monthly premiums and $0 or low co-pays for many services, plus helpful free cost-shaving goodies like senior health club memberships.Seriously, if Medicare became private, HOW would it be made affordable for the poor? You don't know the answer to that question and neither does Paul Ryan.
Right. How educated are you on these plans?Stop pretending like you even understand this issue.
Expand Medicare/Medicare Supplements/Medicare Advantage to all. Public and private. Market competition and innovation combined with a public foundation. It works well.
I would guess that at least 80% of Americans wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about, but that doesn't stop the simplistic rhetoric.
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Educate yourself on these plans and the Medicare system and get back to me. I'm sure there's a ton of videos on Medicare, Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements on YouTube.
You don't know what you're talking about here.
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Silly far right drones know deep down that social security, medicare, and medicaid are popular and work just fine. They spout the far right rhetoric that they are bad and wasteful, and it drives em nuts knowing that some banker isn't making a profit from it.
Yeah obviously we wish for regulations but republicans don't give a shit about proper regulation.Of course there would be regulations. There were regulations before Obama was elected, they just got tighter and more abundant.lol ok there's a simple fact you arent picking up on here. If Medicare becomes totally privatized, there wouldn't be any regulations would there?You clearly have no idea how carefully regulated the private Medicare industry is. You clearly don't know how the utilization curve explodes after age 65, and how having young people on the plan would bend costs down.Nothing you're saying has anything to do with making Medicare more affordable. Letting corporations do whatever the fuck they want is not going to make healthcare services affordable.There is already a private side to Medicare, known as Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements. MA plans are subsidized by the government and many offer $0 monthly premiums and $0 or low co-pays for many services, plus helpful free cost-shaving goodies like senior health club memberships.Seriously, if Medicare became private, HOW would it be made affordable for the poor? You don't know the answer to that question and neither does Paul Ryan.
Right. How educated are you on these plans?Stop pretending like you even understand this issue.
Expand Medicare/Medicare Supplements/Medicare Advantage to all. Public and private. Market competition and innovation combined with a public foundation. It works well.
I would guess that at least 80% of Americans wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about, but that doesn't stop the simplistic rhetoric.
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Educate yourself on these plans and the Medicare system and get back to me. I'm sure there's a ton of videos on Medicare, Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements on YouTube.
You don't know what you're talking about here.
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I'd have to see the plan before making any judgements. I'm more into facts and less into partisan speculation.
Regardless, expanding the overall system to all would make sense.
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Maybe you can show me where Ryan wants to privatize Medicare. I just looked at two sources and both say that Medicare Advantage plans would be expanded a bit and Medicare Supplements would remain, and that the Medicare chassis would remain.Good god dude. You're strictly talking about Medicare right now and I am not. What you want for Medicare is besides the point. I am referring to what Medicare will become when the program becomes completely privatized. Everything you're saying about Medicare now is irrelevant to the point. What matters is Paul'a actual plan.Good gawd. I'll keep this as simple as I can.lol ok there's a simple fact you arent picking up on here. If Medicare becomes totally privatized, there wouldn't be any regulations would there?You clearly have no idea how carefully regulated the private Medicare industry is. You clearly don't know how the utilization curve explodes after age 65, and how having young people on the plan would bend costs down.Nothing you're saying has anything to do with making Medicare more affordable. Letting corporations do whatever the fuck they want is not going to make healthcare services affordable.There is already a private side to Medicare, known as Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements. MA plans are subsidized by the government and many offer $0 monthly premiums and $0 or low co-pays for many services, plus helpful free cost-shaving goodies like senior health club memberships.
Right. How educated are you on these plans?
Expand Medicare/Medicare Supplements/Medicare Advantage to all. Public and private. Market competition and innovation combined with a public foundation. It works well.
I would guess that at least 80% of Americans wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about, but that doesn't stop the simplistic rhetoric.
.
Educate yourself on these plans and the Medicare system and get back to me. I'm sure there's a ton of videos on Medicare, Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplements on YouTube.
You don't know what you're talking about here.
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Medicare is a public service delivery/payment system. Medicare Advantage plans and Medicare Supplements work WITH Medicare plans to cover the large gaps in Medicare coverage.
You don't even know THAT?
What I want is an expansion of that to all. Just as it is. Not "totally privatized".
Jeez, stop by YouTube for a while.
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You're so full of shit and clearly stupid.lol there is nothing you post that makes me believe you have a master's in economics.Your stupidity amazes me. You have no idea what kind of economy you are living in. I know it makes you feel superior to say "get a job derp, derp, derp!" but really it just demonstrates your complete ignorance about this subject.I want free stuff, WAAAAH!
Do these guys ever have anything else to say. GET A JOB.
Oh, really...
I have master's in economics, what do you have? Bunch of whine, desperation and butthurt.
Did you get that job yet? Turns out it really helps.
And there is nothing in your post that makes me believe you have a job.
I do have master's... might even snag a PHD later.
You pay for Medicare...one way or another. Who would run it better...the gummint morons or private business?I know you all love to bitch about ObamaCare, but medical expenses were still on the rise and poor people generally couldn't afford health insurance before it was passed. Costs are rising, but at least 20 million people now have health insurance. NOTHING is stopping these costs from continuing to rise if the law is repealed. Are you really stupid to believe that letting insurance companies do whatever they want is going to lower costs? How about prescription drug prices specifically? WHAT will keep those prices from going up? Even if they wouldn't go up, they sure as hell aren't going down.
Seriously, if Medicare became private, HOW would it be made affordable for the poor? You don't know the answer to that question and neither does Paul Ryan. Stop pretending like you even understand this issue.
It blows my mind someone has to explain this to you.
You pay for Medicare...one way or another. Who would run it better...the gummint morons or private business?I know you all love to bitch about ObamaCare, but medical expenses were still on the rise and poor people generally couldn't afford health insurance before it was passed. Costs are rising, but at least 20 million people now have health insurance. NOTHING is stopping these costs from continuing to rise if the law is repealed. Are you really stupid to believe that letting insurance companies do whatever they want is going to lower costs? How about prescription drug prices specifically? WHAT will keep those prices from going up? Even if they wouldn't go up, they sure as hell aren't going down.
Seriously, if Medicare became private, HOW would it be made affordable for the poor? You don't know the answer to that question and neither does Paul Ryan. Stop pretending like you even understand this issue.
It blows my mind someone has to explain this to you.
Seriously, if Medicare became private, HOW would it be made affordable for the poor?
Okay what politicians say about their own plans is not worth shit. Independent analysis is what matters.Looking at his overview of the plan, Medicare | Paul Ryan, seniors would be able to opt in to an exchange-based menu of private plans or remain with their traditional Medicare plan. It looks like the private plans would be subsidized like Medicare Advantage plans are now, so no doubt many regulations would remain if a private insurer wants to participate.
Increase of the Medicare eligibility age over time.
There would be means testing, so seniors with more than $133,000 in income would pay higher premiums than others.
Doctors would be reimbursed in part by results over number of services.
No cherry-picking or pre-existing conditions clauses, which is the way it is now.
Not exactly massive changes, not the "privatization" people are screaming about.
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