And what is wrong with 22 million americans losing health insurance under Trumpcare?

[jillian]

That's the new dem talking point and it's BS . Obamacare is WELFARE and we all agree the welfare rolls need to be reduced. The 22 million who will lose their huge subsidies are free to go out and buy health insurance with THEIR money.

you're a moron

its a transfer of wealth to insurance companies and the top 1%.

 

[hortysir]

Most health problems are self-inflicted anyway. I'm sick of all these fatties and smokers and druggies and faggots who CHOOSE to live unhealthy lives and then insist the taxpayers pay for their health problems.

Actually just saw a video from a doctor saying the same thing, using electricity as an analogy.
When we're young and we don't pay the electric bill, we don't care about how long we keep the fridge or the front door open.
When the overweight smoker doesn't have to pay his doctor bills, why should he lose weight or quit smoking?
When you don't pay the bill you don't care how much it is

 

[g5000]

The GOP is going to fuck up so badly, they will accelerate the arrival of single payer in this country.

You will be hard pressed to find a Democrat who won't be pushing single payer in 2020. And the American people will cry out for it.

You can thank Trump and McConnell for that.

 

[hortysir]

That's the new dem talking point and it's BS . Obamacare is WELFARE and we all agree the welfare rolls need to be reduced. The 22 million who will lose their huge subsidies are free to go out and buy health insurance with THEIR money.

you're a moron

its a transfer of wealth to insurance companies and the top 1%.

Never thought I'd see you agreeing with me on that lol (long time no see, ma'am)

When BO was pushing ACA his big selling point was the "big evil insurance companies"
Then handed them millions of new customers on a silver platter!

 

[hortysir]

The GOP is going to fuck up so badly, they will accelerate the arrival of single payer in this country.

You will be hard pressed to find a Democrat who won't be pushing single payer in 2020. And the American people will cry out for it.

You can thank Trump and McConnell for that.

correction: American democratic socialists will cry out for it

Take another look at the electoral map.....see all that red? Those people won't be crying out for more government control in their lives

 

[francoHFW]

The problem is the ridiculously high cost of health care after years of the Big Health and the GOP scam system. Only ACA gives us a framework to regulate the waste and greed. Go after THAT NOW.

 

[g5000]

The GOP is going to fuck up so badly, they will accelerate the arrival of single payer in this country.

You will be hard pressed to find a Democrat who won't be pushing single payer in 2020. And the American people will cry out for it.

You can thank Trump and McConnell for that.

correction: American democratic socialists will cry out for it

Take another look at the electoral map.....see all that red? Those people won't be crying out for more government control in their lives

Trump's Chumps will turn on a dime and call out for single payer health care exactly 43 milliseconds after Trump does.

You'll see.

 

[francoHFW]

That's the new dem talking point and it's BS . Obamacare is WELFARE and we all agree the welfare rolls need to be reduced. The 22 million who will lose their huge subsidies are free to go out and buy health insurance with THEIR money.

you're a moron

its a transfer of wealth to insurance companies and the top 1%.

Never thought I'd see you agreeing with me on that lol (long time no see, ma'am)

When BO was pushing ACA his big selling point was the "big evil insurance companies"
Then handed them millions of new customers on a silver platter!

And began regulating them- said they had to cut from 27% to 20% the amount of their money they could use on non-medical stuff. etc etc....

 

[Anathema]

You will be hard pressed to find a Democrat who won't be pushing single payer in 2020. And the American people will cry out for it.

They can cry out for it all they want. It will be good practice for their eternity in Hell.

 

[francoHFW]

The problem is the ridiculously high cost of health care after years of the Big Health and the GOP scam system. Only ACA gives us a framework to regulate the waste and greed. Go after THAT NOW.

The GOP is going to fuck up so badly, they will accelerate the arrival of single payer in this country.

You will be hard pressed to find a Democrat who won't be pushing single payer in 2020. And the American people will cry out for it.

You can thank Trump and McConnell for that.

correction: American democratic socialists will cry out for it

Take another look at the electoral map.....see all that red? Those people won't be crying out for more government control in their lives

All that empty space with people with empty space between their ears filled with Pubcrappe against their own interest....go after all the greed and waste in Big Health. Government solutions where no one else can do it.

 

[OldLady]

Did you know universal healthcare is actually cheaper?

The cost is irrelevant. It's unconstitutional, immoral, and disgusting. There is no need or mandate for the Government to steal money from me to pay for anyone's health care; including mine. It is my responsibility to provide whatever health services my family and I want or need.

Fine. Then get rid of the rule that hospitals must treat emergencies, regardless of ability to pay. Because otherwise, you're going to pay for it anyway.

 

[g5000]

The Chumps haven't caught on to Trump's schizophrenic nature yet.

Trump has long called out for single payer healthcare. For many, many years. That's what he really wants, and that is what he is going to get.

Trump has led his Chumps to bleev some kind of miracle is going to happen where the GOP will write a bill they haven't managed to come up with in over seven years, and it will make health care better at "a tiny fraction of the cost."

At this late stage of the game, there is only one way where your doctor and insurance bills are going to be a tiny fraction of the cost they are now: Single payer.

We are never, ever going to arrive at the free market solution. Ever. Forget about it. Not going to happen.

You should be buying your health insurance the same way you buy your car insurance. But that just is never going to happen.

Because the GOP sold us all down the river to the Democrats and single payer decades ago.

All the clues are right there in front of your slack little faces. Time to open your eyes, Chumps.

 

[Anathema]

[QUl]Fine. Then get rid of the rule that hospitals must treat emergencies, regardless of ability to pay. Because otherwise, you're going to pay for it anyway.

I agree. That one bill proves Reagan's LIBERALISM better than anything else in his life. Things **** thst are why I go out of my way to reduce my tax burden as much as possible.

 

[g5000]

I hope the Senate GOP bill passes so the Chumps can see just how unbelievably worse the GOP will make health care in this country. How much worse than ObamaCare it is.

​

 

[OldLady]

The Chumps haven't caught on to Trump's schizophrenic nature yet.

Trump has long called out for single payer healthcare. For many, many years. That's what he really wants, and that is what he is going to get.

Trump has led his Chumps to bleev some kind of miracle is going to happen where the GOP will write a bill they haven't managed to come up with in over seven years, and it will make health care better at "a tiny fraction of the cost."

At this late stage of the game, there is only one way where your doctor and insurance bills are going to be a tiny fraction of the cost they are now: Single payer.

We are never, ever going to arrive at the free market solution. Ever. Forget about it. Not going to happen.

You should be buying your health insurance the same way you buy your car insurance. But that just is never going to happen.

Because the GOP sold us all down the river to the Democrats and single payer decades ago.

All the clues are right there in front of your slack little faces. Time to open your eyes, Chumps.

I don't agree with you that we should be buying our health insurance the same way we buy our car insurance. Too many of us can't afford thousands and thousands of dollars a year to pay for medical insurance. It is far too unreasonably priced. The Democrats didn't cause that. I don't know who did, but it wasn't just one party that gave the healthcare industry its head and let it go absolutely wild. Yes, people will pay whatever in order to live. But that's only for people with the money.
I believe we all have the right to reasonable healthcare and it should be paid for from our paychecks via taxes. A lot of us don't have the money to buy it, G. It just isn't there for a lot of people. I'm not whining. It's true.

 

[TNHarley]

I cant believe people are trying to rape "general welfare" intent for this shit.
Its non-stop with statists.

 

[TNHarley]

The Chumps haven't caught on to Trump's schizophrenic nature yet.

Trump has long called out for single payer healthcare. For many, many years. That's what he really wants, and that is what he is going to get.

Trump has led his Chumps to bleev some kind of miracle is going to happen where the GOP will write a bill they haven't managed to come up with in over seven years, and it will make health care better at "a tiny fraction of the cost."

At this late stage of the game, there is only one way where your doctor and insurance bills are going to be a tiny fraction of the cost they are now: Single payer.

We are never, ever going to arrive at the free market solution. Ever. Forget about it. Not going to happen.

You should be buying your health insurance the same way you buy your car insurance. But that just is never going to happen.

Because the GOP sold us all down the river to the Democrats and single payer decades ago.

All the clues are right there in front of your slack little faces. Time to open your eyes, Chumps.

I don't agree with you that we should be buying our health insurance the same way we buy our car insurance. Too many of us can't afford thousands and thousands of dollars a year to pay for medical insurance. It is far too unreasonably priced. The Democrats didn't cause that. I don't know who did, but it wasn't just one party that gave the healthcare industry its head and let it go absolutely wild. Yes, people will pay whatever in order to live. But that's only for people with the money.
I believe we all have the right to reasonable healthcare and it should be paid for from our paychecks via taxes. A lot of us don't have the money to buy it, G. It just isn't there for a lot of people. I'm not whining. It's true.

I love the idea of giving failure more responsibilities to fuck up

 

[g5000]

The Chumps haven't caught on to Trump's schizophrenic nature yet.

Trump has long called out for single payer healthcare. For many, many years. That's what he really wants, and that is what he is going to get.

Trump has led his Chumps to bleev some kind of miracle is going to happen where the GOP will write a bill they haven't managed to come up with in over seven years, and it will make health care better at "a tiny fraction of the cost."

At this late stage of the game, there is only one way where your doctor and insurance bills are going to be a tiny fraction of the cost they are now: Single payer.

We are never, ever going to arrive at the free market solution. Ever. Forget about it. Not going to happen.

You should be buying your health insurance the same way you buy your car insurance. But that just is never going to happen.

Because the GOP sold us all down the river to the Democrats and single payer decades ago.

All the clues are right there in front of your slack little faces. Time to open your eyes, Chumps.

I don't agree with you that we should be buying our health insurance the same way we buy our car insurance. Too many of us can't afford thousands and thousands of dollars a year to pay for medical insurance. It is far too unreasonably priced. The Democrats didn't cause that. I don't know who did, but it wasn't just one party that gave the healthcare industry its head and let it go absolutely wild. Yes, people will pay whatever in order to live. But that's only for people with the money.
I believe we all have the right to reasonable healthcare and it should be paid for from our paychecks via taxes. A lot of us don't have the money to buy it, G. It just isn't there for a lot of people. I'm not whining. It's true.

The reason health insurance is unreasonably priced is precisely because we are not buying it the same way we buy auto insurance!

Despite the cost of cars going up, the cost of auto insurance has been going down.

The reason health insurance keeps going up is because the government is the largest player in the health insurance market, and it gets to write the rules its competitors must follow!

How's that been working for you?

You are a hostage, thanks to the government. You have to take what your employer offers you, or nothing. You have ZERO leverage.

If you could call any insurance company in the country, you would have maximum leverage, just like you do with car insurance.

And YOU would be deciding what you need, not the government.

The government established little fiefdoms for insurance companies. The government provided a federal antitrust waiver to health insurance companies so they could have monopolies in their controlled markets.

We need LESS government, not more.

 

[francoHFW]

[QUl]Fine. Then get rid of the rule that hospitals must treat emergencies, regardless of ability to pay. Because otherwise, you're going to pay for it anyway.

I agree. That one bill proves Reagan's LIBERALISM better than anything else in his life. Things **** thst are why I go out of my way to reduce my tax burden as much as possible.

According to WIKI, that's 6% of hospital etc costs, what about the other 60-100% more our health costs are than anywhere else? Only ACA gives us a chance of bringing them down- certainly not the usual GOP giveaway to the richest...

 

[francoHFW]

The Chumps haven't caught on to Trump's schizophrenic nature yet.

Trump has long called out for single payer healthcare. For many, many years. That's what he really wants, and that is what he is going to get.

Trump has led his Chumps to bleev some kind of miracle is going to happen where the GOP will write a bill they haven't managed to come up with in over seven years, and it will make health care better at "a tiny fraction of the cost."

At this late stage of the game, there is only one way where your doctor and insurance bills are going to be a tiny fraction of the cost they are now: Single payer.

We are never, ever going to arrive at the free market solution. Ever. Forget about it. Not going to happen.

You should be buying your health insurance the same way you buy your car insurance. But that just is never going to happen.

Because the GOP sold us all down the river to the Democrats and single payer decades ago.

All the clues are right there in front of your slack little faces. Time to open your eyes, Chumps.

I don't agree with you that we should be buying our health insurance the same way we buy our car insurance. Too many of us can't afford thousands and thousands of dollars a year to pay for medical insurance. It is far too unreasonably priced. The Democrats didn't cause that. I don't know who did, but it wasn't just one party that gave the healthcare industry its head and let it go absolutely wild. Yes, people will pay whatever in order to live. But that's only for people with the money.
I believe we all have the right to reasonable healthcare and it should be paid for from our paychecks via taxes. A lot of us don't have the money to buy it, G. It just isn't there for a lot of people. I'm not whining. It's true.

The reason health insurance is unreasonably priced is precisely because we are not buying it the same way we buy auto insurance!

Despite the cost of cars going up, the cost of auto insurance has been going down.

The reason health insurance keeps going up is because the government is the largest player in the health insurance market, and it gets to write the rules its competitors must follow!

How's that been working for you?

You are a hostage, thanks to the government. You have to take what your employer offers you, or nothing. You have ZERO leverage.

If you could call any insurance company in the country, you would have maximum leverage, just like you do with car insurance.

And YOU would be deciding what you need, not the government.

The government established little fiefdoms for insurance companies. The government provided a federal antitrust waiver to health insurance companies so they could have monopolies in their controlled markets.

We need LESS government, not more.

So ADD those ideas to ACA, don't go back to the GOP/crony giveaway to Big Health scam system. At least ACA shows us the true cost of health care, does away with the scams, gets SOME money out of poorer workers, taxes the bloated rich and giant corps, and gives us a framework to go after greed and waste.