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[Christophera]

Treason was a favorite of the British crown, talk nasty about the crown and it was treason.
The framers well aware of this problem inserted the freedom of speech clause in the Constitution to protect members of Congress and then added a definition of treason. Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution?

That is true generally, but specifically with regard to the right to "alter or abolish", free speech has the purpose of enabling the unity required to do it effectively.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

How can we claim to have a fair electroal process if members of Congress are allowed to lie about a candidate?

totally stupid stupid subject. We are all allowed to lie and to tell the truth. If a person believes too many lies he eventually dies and evolution continues successfully forward.

 

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psychos have every right to post too, but not to make shit up and get away with it so easily.

this isn't a College or Mental Health Center

dear, you were the one who said Jefferson did not found the Jeffersonian Republican Party and than lacked the character to admit you were mistaken or lying.

Exactly. Thomas Jefferson did NOT found the Democratic-Republican (Jeffersonian) Party


read a few books, preferably ones NOT written by yourself

 

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Treason was a favorite of the British crown, talk nasty about the crown and it was treason.
The framers well aware of this problem inserted the freedom of speech clause in the Constitution to protect members of Congress and then added a definition of treason. Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution?

Huh?

Treason was not charged and prosecuted lightly. Many people in England, let alone the far away colonies were engaging in what looks like treasonous acts. You're off base here

 

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Treason was a favorite of the British crown, talk nasty about the crown and it was treason.
The framers well aware of this problem inserted the freedom of speech clause in the Constitution to protect members of Congress and then added a definition of treason. Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution?

That is true generally, but specifically with regard to the right to "alter or abolish", free speech has the purpose of enabling the unity required to do it effectively.

The founding generation were in the habit of tarring and feathering and attacking the property and persons of people who disagreed with them.

 

[Christophera]

Treason was a favorite of the British crown, talk nasty about the crown and it was treason.
The framers well aware of this problem inserted the freedom of speech clause in the Constitution to protect members of Congress and then added a definition of treason. Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution?

That is true generally, but specifically with regard to the right to "alter or abolish", free speech has the purpose of enabling the unity required to do it effectively.

The founding generation were in the habit of tarring and feathering and attacking the property and persons of people who disagreed with them.

Fraudulent behaviors, including those political, rather than spoken perspectives were most punished in that way.

 

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Christophera the dime-store-historian

Treason was a favorite of the British crown, talk nasty about the crown and it was treason.
The framers well aware of this problem inserted the freedom of speech clause in the Constitution to protect members of Congress and then added a definition of treason. Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution?

That is true generally, but specifically with regard to the right to "alter or abolish", free speech has the purpose of enabling the unity required to do it effectively.

The founding generation were in the habit of tarring and feathering and attacking the property and persons of people who disagreed with them.

Fraudulent behaviors, including those political, rather than spoken perspectives were most punished in that way.

Idiot! The committees required loyalty oaths -- to the Rebels Congress

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Exactly. Thomas Jefferson did NOT found the Democratic-Republican (Jeffersonian) Party

Jefferson and Madison Founded the Republican party in 1792 to oppose the lib big govt proposals of Washington Adams and Hamilton. When they won in 1800 they called it the Second American Revolution. It clarified that the first revolution was not only against the English monarchy but against all liberal big govt in general.

"The revolution of 1800... was as real a revolution in the principles of our government as that of 1776 was in its form; not effected indeed by the sword, as that, but by the rational and peaceable instrument of reform, the suffrage of the people." --Thomas Jefferson to Spencer Roane, 1819. ME 15:212




A.James Reichley "The Life of the Parties"( most thorough look at Party history ever written) Page 52

"In referring to political parties I have adopted the names which the respective parties used in self-designation. Thus the Jeffersonian party has been referred to throughout as the Republican Party. This name came into use early in the 1790's among persons who considered themselves of a common political "interest", and the term "Republican interest" was generally used until it was replaced by the more definite "Republican Party".

The Jeffersonian Republicans( the formation of Party organization (1789-1801) by Noble E. Cunningham,Jr.

 

[Idadunno]

"Members of Congress are given an absolute privilege to lie with impunity in the House or Senate, if they so desire, by the Speech or Debate Clause in Article I, Section 6 of the U.S. Constitution. It states that, with regard to senators and representatives, "for Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place." The Framers of the Constitution wanted to encourage debate in Congress, and they did not want that debate chilled by the threat of lawsuits."
Who Can Lie to Congress

Should fix that so Harry Reids can't throw Presidential elections by making up boldface 'pants on fire' lies about candidates. How can we claim to have a fair electroal process if members of Congress are allowed to lie about a candidate?

Harry Reid says anonymous source told him Mitt Romney didn t pay taxes for 10 years PolitiFact

Romney's tax returns are a matter of public record, especially every time he dipped his toe in the presidential pool. Reid is not allowed to lie under oath, the same as you and I, but what he says otherwise to the press or someone else trying to hurt a person's chance of something, although lying is morally wrong, it is not a crime--one can sue for libel and slander...
Mitt Romney R-Mass OpenSecrets

I do not know where you got your information about what that narrative in the Constitution means but you are wrong, so is that article.
"The Senators and Representatives shall receive a compensation for their services, to be ascertained by law, and paid out of the treasury of the United States. They shall in all cases, except treason, felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place."

"and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place" means that they cannot be questioned about state business or discuss state business anywhere except the proper chambers and offices. Ex. they cannot discuss a vote or plausible vote with a reporter or stock broker. That ; symbol means the beginning of a new thought/sentence. It replaces a period. It is not a continuance of the statement before it.
(State = country, although few in the US use it in its proper context because it gets confusing).

 

[Idadunno]

psychos have every right to post too, but not to make shit up and get away with it so easily.

this isn't a College or Mental Health Center

The college remark makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

psychos have every right to post too, but not to make shit up and get away with it so easily.

this isn't a College or Mental Health Center

The college remark makes no sense whatsoever.

So it appear that Democratic ideas are not American ideas in any sense.

Jefferson and Madison Founded the Republican party in 1792 to oppose the lib big govt proposals of Washington Adams and Hamilton. When they won in 1800 they called it the Second American Revolution. It clarified that the first revolution was not only against the English monarchy but against all liberal big govt in general.



"The revolution of 1800... was as real a revolution in the principles of our government as that of 1776 was in its form; not effected indeed by the sword, as that, but by the rational and peaceable instrument of reform, the suffrage of the people." --Thomas Jefferson to Spencer Roane, 1819. ME 15:212

 

[Idadunno]

psychos have every right to post too, but not to make shit up and get away with it so easily.

this isn't a College or Mental Health Center

The college remark makes no sense whatsoever.

So it appear that Democratic ideas are not American ideas in any sense.

Jefferson and Madison Founded the Republican party in 1792 to oppose the lib big govt proposals of Washington Adams and Hamilton. When they won in 1800 they called it the Second American Revolution. It clarified that the first revolution was not only against the English monarchy but against all liberal big govt in general.

"The revolution of 1800... was as real a revolution in the principles of our government as that of 1776 was in its form; not effected indeed by the sword, as that, but by the rational and peaceable instrument of reform, the suffrage of the people." --Thomas Jefferson to Spencer Roane, 1819. ME 15:212

The liberals at that time were against big government, not for it. The conservatives were all about government regulation and social programs.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

psychos have every right to post too, but not to make shit up and get away with it so easily.

this isn't a College or Mental Health Center

The college remark makes no sense whatsoever.

So it appear that Democratic ideas are not American ideas in any sense.

Jefferson and Madison Founded the Republican party in 1792 to oppose the lib big govt proposals of Washington Adams and Hamilton. When they won in 1800 they called it the Second American Revolution. It clarified that the first revolution was not only against the English monarchy but against all liberal big govt in general.

"The revolution of 1800... was as real a revolution in the principles of our government as that of 1776 was in its form; not effected indeed by the sword, as that, but by the rational and peaceable instrument of reform, the suffrage of the people." --Thomas Jefferson to Spencer Roane, 1819. ME 15:212

The liberals at that time were against big government, not for it. The conservatives were all about government regulation and social programs.

Jefferson and Madison founded the Republican party in 1792 to stand for freedom from big liberal govt. Today's Republican Party shares identical name and political philosophy.

Do you understand now?

 

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Jesus Christ...Special Ed has a doppleganger?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Jesus Christ...Special Ed has a ?

Jefferson and Madison founded the Republican party in 1792 to stand for freedom from big liberal govt. Today's Republican Party shares identical name and political philosophy.

Do you understand now?

 

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Ed? Have you read any of the books on the reading list? Yes or no.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Ed? Have you read any of the books on the reading list? Yes or no.

does too stupid know who founded the Republican party in 1792??

 

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Fail. Now Ed, look up John Beckley and Madison. Look them up regarding attempts to bring Jefferson into open opposition to Hamilton,

there will be a quiz

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Fail. Now Ed, look up John Beckley and Madison. Look them up regarding attempts to bring Jefferson into open opposition to Hamilton,

there will be a quiz

does too stupid know who founded the Republican party in 1792??

 

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Ed? Have you read any of the books on the reading list? Yes or no.

Ed? Special Ed?