Ah... poor Tea Party, we hardly knew ye

[NYcarbineer]

All Tea Party members I personally know were devout Bush supporters.
Well at least until his last year and then embaressement took over.

No one believes you know any TEA Party members.

Are Tea Partiers conservatives? Conservatives ALWAYS supported GW Bush in greater numbers than any other group.

 

[tigerbob]

And this is why I don't take you bipartisan ignorants seriously.

The guy only took over GM like a socialist dictator would. He only forced 300 million US citizens to bailout a minority amount of union workers and public sector employees, and to put the icing on the cake started the cash for clunkers program to STIMULATE a demand for the product (union made product) of the company he took over like a socialist dictator and stuck the taxpayers with the bill again.... Mean while those in the non-union private sector were struggling to put food on the table while the UNIONS that played a large role in getting Obama elected were eating steak and making demands for larger pensions..

Oh yeah..... Don't get me started with his bold faced fucking lies....

Maybe you're just fucking dumb for not paying attention???

Gosh, you're so persuasive when you're angry.

So you're telling me the President of the United States is authorized to take over any business he chooses???

Good to know we're living in the US...

Yeah, that follows.

 

[JamesInFlorida]

I am not voting for the GOP just to oppose Obama. They have proven themselves to be just as bad if not worse than the Democrats. I am only voting for a third party. The TEA party had best field a candidate or they can go fuck themselves. Democrats & Republicans will not get my vote. I am done with the lesser of 2 evils BS. The best vote I ever cast was for Ross Perot.

The majority of tea party candidates ran as republicans, and this upcoming election is no different - Ron Paul is running as a republican..

Remember, just because someone runs as a republican, democrat, green or independent doesn't mean they hold the consensus views of the party they're running under.

Realistically "tea party" is code for "libertarian" and we are jacking the republican party or pulling the rug right from under their feet.

In short libertarians are stealing the republican party and bringing it back to their roots, or better yet our libertarian roots.

Yeah, we're republican posers who agree with republicans on some issues, but we're not authoritarian nuts like progressive liberals er SOCIALISTS who pose as "liberals."

No it's not. The Libertarians already are a party of their own-they don't pretend to have strong views, only to cave in to the GOP like the Tea Party does. They also differ on several views of the Tea Party (pro gay marriage, end war against drugs, pro-choice, off the top of my head).

 

[tigerbob]

RWers always have, and always will, speak out of both sides of their mouth.

Note that you will NEVER see those two attempt to correct each other, thus showing and proving that they are in full agreement of the contradiction and double-speak that exists within them.

They will BOTH fight against Democrats for anything similar or what they perceive as similar no matter what though.

BOTH are partisan hacks..aka jokers.

You never could deal with the fact that individual opinions may differ, could you? You seriously have no business throwing the word partizan around.

I say again...you will NEVER see two RWers even ATTEMPT to correct each other when they are both clearly stating opposing ideas.

The lemmings will ALWAYS fall in line...as per their leader Raygun.

OK, I'll play, let's take a little look at what you've seen fit to reiterate.

Your position is that because they are both "Right Wingers", they will therefore never attempt to correct each other, even though they have opposing views.

These are the two opinions concerned.

All I can say is that the Tea Party wanted Obama to fail and thusly America to fail. Ideology over country.

Ideology indeed...and WHICH ideology has Obama followed to bring US to this point? And YES we wanted Obama to FAIL...because some of us tried to warn some of you of his past and what would happen...YOU didn't listen.

Thus where we are...maybe some of you won't be so quick to vote on faith and actually do some friggin' homework next time?

All I can say is that the Tea Party wanted Obama to fail and thusly America to fail. Ideology over country.

Nobody WANTED obama to fail. We just knew his plan for "wealth distribution" was a code word for Socialism. America if failing BEACUSE of the socialist policy's put in place by obama and the past Presidents. Obama is President so he is the current face of failure.

The T is saying that he wanted Obama to fail (you can ignore the "we", he's not really speaking for anyone else) because there had been clear warnings which were ignored and, as such, he wants those who were warned to have to see the predictions come true.

Cutter one the other hand didn't WANT Obama to fail, but "knew" that his "socialist" policies would.

To encapsulate, both 'knew' Obama would fail, but one didn't really want him to because it means America fails too, and the other did want him to because it would clearly demonstrate his belief that Obama's ideology is fundamentally flawed.

So, the only point about which their views differ is that of desired political outcome. In this, the Ts requirements are perhaps more punitive than Cutter's, but both are a clear demonstration of the fundamental original position of the Tea Party (the thing this thread is about) - that two people may have different views about some things and yet share a common perspective on the inherent dangers of out of control public spending.

Which brings me back to the point I made earlier about you being unable to accept that two people with similar views of one thing may have different views on another (in this case, the same view of the cause of perceived economic failure, but different views on eventual political impact). In the context of this discussion and pretty much every other, you seem to be unable to accept that while there is white and black, there is also an infinite amount of gray.

It also brings me back to the point I made about you being wrong "in your soul", which you said makes no sense and asked for links. The above is exactly what I'm talking about. You're not unintelligent, and yet seem content to nit pick and fabricate issues which allow you to attack the right with hackneyed epithets (Ray-guns) rather than posting anything of substance yourself. I remember taking you up on this a couple of weeks ago when you started a thread about what the media were going to say about something, and then attacking your own straw man rather than posting quotes to illustrate your point and critiquing those examples. That's why you're wrong "in your soul", to be content with something so pointless, so intellectually dishonest (to use your favorite phrase), and even so complacent as to return a second time to make your pointless point again.

Oh, and by the way, you have referred to me as a right winger several times, and yet you say that right wingers NEVER ATTEMPT (your emphasis) to correct each other because "we are lemmings".

All I can say is that the Tea Party wanted Obama to fail and thusly America to fail. Ideology over country.

Ideology indeed...and WHICH ideology has Obama followed to bring US to this point? And YES we wanted Obama to FAIL...because some of us tried to warn some of you of his past and what would happen...YOU didn't listen.

Thus where we are...maybe some of you won't be so quick to vote on faith and actually do some friggin' homework next time?

I didn't want him to fail. I wanted him to stop raiding the piggy bank.

So, I disagreed with his assertion that "we" (i.e. people who supported the stated aims of the Tea Party) wanted Obama to fail, despite your view that we "right wingers" NEVER ATTEMPT to do that. Your observation was wrong the first time, and just as wrong now that you've returned to say it a second time (unless of course you don't think I'm a "right-winger" any more).

You could be so much more, Mark. There are other liberals on the board who make well reasoned, well documented and well founded posts that really force posters to engage their brains. Inevitably, even those threads tend to eventually sink into the abyss of partizan parochialism as well, but at least the OP makes an effort.

Why you are satisfied with so little is a complete mystery to me.

 

[FireFly]

The majority of tea party candidates ran as republicans, and this upcoming election is no different - Ron Paul is running as a republican..

Remember, just because someone runs as a republican, democrat, green or independent doesn't mean they hold the consensus views of the party they're running under.

Realistically "tea party" is code for "libertarian" and we are jacking the republican party or pulling the rug right from under their feet.

In short libertarians are stealing the republican party and bringing it back to their roots, or better yet our libertarian roots.

Yeah, we're republican posers who agree with republicans on some issues, but we're not authoritarian nuts like progressive liberals er SOCIALISTS who pose as "liberals."

If the Republicans want my vote they had better run a REAL TRIED & TRUE budget cutter. Look at what happened to Union Government Employee Pay on the Republican Watch. Not to mention the deficit.

I ain't buying no BS Rhino lip service! They had best prove they have slashed pension funds, government union pay & benefits before because I am not taking their word for it again. Union Government workers have become the elite upper class feeding on the rest of US citizens. This shit must end!!!

Ryan ran a cutter.......

The Ryan Plan....

The problem is that Paul Ryan is not running. He should run as a TEA Party candidate.

 

[Wacky Quacky]

I am not voting for the GOP just to oppose Obama. They have proven themselves to be just as bad if not worse than the Democrats. I am only voting for a third party. The TEA party had best field a candidate or they can go fuck themselves. Democrats & Republicans will not get my vote. I am done with the lesser of 2 evils BS. The best vote I ever cast was for Ross Perot.

That was the dumbest vote you ever cast. You and your ilk just ensured that Clinton would get elected.

Explain how voting for your beliefs could ever be dumb? Or are you saying that people should just abandon everything they believe in and vote for the same two evils year after year, like good little puppets?

 

[tigerbob]

I am not voting for the GOP just to oppose Obama. They have proven themselves to be just as bad if not worse than the Democrats. I am only voting for a third party. The TEA party had best field a candidate or they can go fuck themselves. Democrats & Republicans will not get my vote. I am done with the lesser of 2 evils BS. The best vote I ever cast was for Ross Perot.

That was the dumbest vote you ever cast. You and your ilk just ensured that Clinton would get elected.

Explain how voting for your beliefs could ever be dumb? Or are you saying that people should just abandon everything they believe in and vote for the same two evils year after year, like good little puppets?

His post is what it is - basically if you don't vote for one of the two main parties, it's a wasted vote. Don't look for anything of greater depth - you'll be wasting your time.

 

[Yoda]

Amy Kramer representing the Tea Party has said the Tea Party will support any GOP candidate running against Obama. They will support Cain, Romney, or any other GOP candidate just as long as Obama doesn't win the re-election. As reported this morning on FOX news.

This is the death knell of the Tea Party, the GOP like the Borg on Star Trek, will assimilate the Tea Party into itself becoming one party. Resistance is futile. I kind of like that analogy, never realized it until now but the GOP is really like the Borg.

Maybe one day soon people will come to realize the Tea Party was nothing more then a GOP concotion to avoid having to take the blame for the Bush debacle of 8 entire years.

Bush? Look here..we are the Tea Party!

Yeah, we're libertarians for no reason what so ever...

Get da fuck out of here man..

Maybe I'm missing something here, but the Liberarian Party already existed. Which brings up an instresting point. Libertairians are still LEFT of center, where as the Tea Party is boarderline far RIGHT. Also, ever notice how the Tea Party never existed until a Black man was elected president? Hmmmm...... I'm not accusing anyone of racism, but it seems pretty dumb to think that it doesn't have something to do with it.

 

[spectrumc01]

Amy Kramer representing the Tea Party has said the Tea Party will support any GOP candidate running against Obama. They will support Cain, Romney, or any other GOP candidate just as long as Obama doesn't win the re-election. As reported this morning on FOX news.

This is the death knell of the Tea Party, the GOP like the Borg on Star Trek, will assimilate the Tea Party into itself becoming one party. Resistance is futile. I kind of like that analogy, never realized it until now but the GOP is really like the Borg.

Misrepresenting other people's insults as their own. How dishonest..... cuz I've been calling the left the 'Borg' since I got on the forum. Get your own insults, moron.

Are fucking kidding me?
Are you expecting everyone who posts here to specifically look up all your posts to see if it's ok to say something?
Did you patant that "Borg" saying? I didn't think so.
You want an original insult? I got one for you.
How about this one Go %^&* y)%(*$* with a @(#&*$. is that original enough for you.
Give me a break. Jackass.