Abortion is murder

[ding]

I guess I don't understand your question. Yes, all life begins at conception when a new living being, as identified by his unique DNA, that has never existed before and will never exist again, is created into existence. That's about as clear as I can be on this subject. So, what is it that you want to know?

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ding: Yes, all life begins at conception when a new living being, as identified by his unique DNA, that has never existed before and will never exist again, is created into existence.

is your unborn equivalent to to the Lamb being led to slaughter ...

Political C did not reply to the question above, whether the relative value of an embryo is greater than the life of a living being ... care to give a reply

Ending any human life for selfish reasons is wrong.

for selfish reasons ... ?


... is that to mean otherwise it is fine ? - such as for the sustenance of Garden Earth.

.

No. There really is no good reason to end a human life.

Many disagree with you.

That doesn't surprise me at all. These guys and gals all say that those people are full of shit.

Dr. Micheline Matthews-Roth Harvard Medical School
Dr. Jasper Williams, Former President of the National Medical Association
Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland
Okada et al., A role for the elongator complex in zygotic paternal genome demethylation, NATURE 463:554 (Jan. 28, 2010)
Signorelli et al., Kinases, phosphatases and proteases during sperm capacitation, CELL TISSUE RES. 349(3):765 (Mar. 20, 2012)
Coy et al., Roles of the oviduct in mammalian fertilization, REPRODUCTION 144(6):649 (Oct. 1, 2012)
Marcello et al., Fertilization, ADV. EXP. BIOL. 757:321 (2013)
Steven Ertelt”Undisputed Scientific Fact: Human Life Begins at Conception, or Fertilization” LifeNews.com 11/18/13
Keith L. Moore, The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2003. pp. 16, 2.
Kaluger, G., and Kaluger, M., Human Development: The Span of Life, page 28-29, The C.V. Mosby Co., St. Louis, 1974.
F Beck Human Embryology, Blackwell Scientific Publications, 1985 page vi
Clark Edward and Corliss Patten’s Human Embryology, McGraw – Hill Inc., 30
The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology fifth edition, Moore and Persaud, 1993, Saunders Company, page 1
Prenatal Care, US Department Of Health And Human Services, Maternal and Child Health Division, 1990
Landrum B. Shettles “Rites of Life: The Scientific Evidence for Life Before Birth” Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1983 p 40
Keith L. Moore & T.V.N. Persaud Before We Are Born – Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects (W.B. Saunders Company, 1998. Fifth edition.) Page 500
Sally B Olds, et al., Obstetric Nursing (Menlo Park, California: Addison – Wesley publishing, 1980) P 136
Eric Pastuszek. Is the Fetus Human? (Rockford, Illinois: Tan books And Publishers Inc., 1991)
J.P. Greenhill and E.A. Freidman. Biological Principles and Modern Practice of Obstetrics.
T.W. Sadler, Langman’s Medical Embryology, 10th edition.
Keith L. Moore, Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology, 7th edition.
Ronan O’Rahilly and Fabiola Miller, Human Embryology and Teratology, 3rd edition.
Dr. Morris Krieger “The Human Reproductive System”
James Bopp, ed., Human Life and Health Care Ethics, vol. 2
Rand McNally, Atlas of the Body (New York: Rand McNally, 1980) 139, 144
Prenatal Care, US Department of Health and Human Services, Maternal and Child Health Div 1990
Leslie Brainerd Arey, “Developmental Anatomy” seventh edition
In the Womb, National Geographic, 2005
DeCoursey, R.M., The Human Organism, 4th edition
Thibodeau, G.A., and Anthony, C.P., Structure and Function of the Body, 8th edition
Scarr, S., Weinberg, R.A., and Levine A., Understanding Development
Clark, J. ed., The Nervous System: Circuits of Communication in the Human Body
Turner, J.S., and Helms, D.B., Lifespan Developmental, 2nd ed
Carlson, Bruce M. Patten’s Foundations of Embryology. 6th edition.
Considine, Douglas (ed.). Van Nostrand’s Scientific Encyclopedia. 5th edition
Lennart Nilsson A Child is Born: Completely Revised Edition
Kaluger, G., and Kaluger, M., Human Development: The Span of Life
Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition
Human Embryology, 3rd ed. Bradley M. Patten
Essentials of Human Embryology, William J. Larsen
From Human Embryology & Teratology, Ronan R. O’Rahilly, Fabiola Muller
The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 6th ed. Keith L. Moore, Ph.D. & T.V.N. Persaud, Md.

That only speaks to abortion. There are other reasons people seek to end human life which many find reasonable.

And I note, you won't even stand behind your own convictions when it comes to abortion. When asked if you want abortion to be illegal -- you won't answer "yes" or "no."

That is the only issue we are discussing here. I am afraid if you want to make a two wrongs makes a right argument you will need to have that discussion with someone else as I would only laugh at such a ridiculous assertion. As to my convictions, I really couldn't care less of what you think.

 

[Faun]

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ding: Yes, all life begins at conception when a new living being, as identified by his unique DNA, that has never existed before and will never exist again, is created into existence.

Political C did not reply to the question above, whether the relative value of an embryo is greater than the life of a living being ... care to give a reply




for selfish reasons ... ?


... is that to mean otherwise it is fine ? - such as for the sustenance of Garden Earth.

.

No. There really is no good reason to end a human life.

Many disagree with you.

That doesn't surprise me at all. These guys and gals all say that those people are full of shit.

Dr. Micheline Matthews-Roth Harvard Medical School
Dr. Jasper Williams, Former President of the National Medical Association
Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland
Okada et al., A role for the elongator complex in zygotic paternal genome demethylation, NATURE 463:554 (Jan. 28, 2010)
Signorelli et al., Kinases, phosphatases and proteases during sperm capacitation, CELL TISSUE RES. 349(3):765 (Mar. 20, 2012)
Coy et al., Roles of the oviduct in mammalian fertilization, REPRODUCTION 144(6):649 (Oct. 1, 2012)
Marcello et al., Fertilization, ADV. EXP. BIOL. 757:321 (2013)
Steven Ertelt”Undisputed Scientific Fact: Human Life Begins at Conception, or Fertilization” LifeNews.com 11/18/13
Keith L. Moore, The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2003. pp. 16, 2.
Kaluger, G., and Kaluger, M., Human Development: The Span of Life, page 28-29, The C.V. Mosby Co., St. Louis, 1974.
F Beck Human Embryology, Blackwell Scientific Publications, 1985 page vi
Clark Edward and Corliss Patten’s Human Embryology, McGraw – Hill Inc., 30
The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology fifth edition, Moore and Persaud, 1993, Saunders Company, page 1
Prenatal Care, US Department Of Health And Human Services, Maternal and Child Health Division, 1990
Landrum B. Shettles “Rites of Life: The Scientific Evidence for Life Before Birth” Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1983 p 40
Keith L. Moore & T.V.N. Persaud Before We Are Born – Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects (W.B. Saunders Company, 1998. Fifth edition.) Page 500
Sally B Olds, et al., Obstetric Nursing (Menlo Park, California: Addison – Wesley publishing, 1980) P 136
Eric Pastuszek. Is the Fetus Human? (Rockford, Illinois: Tan books And Publishers Inc., 1991)
J.P. Greenhill and E.A. Freidman. Biological Principles and Modern Practice of Obstetrics.
T.W. Sadler, Langman’s Medical Embryology, 10th edition.
Keith L. Moore, Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology, 7th edition.
Ronan O’Rahilly and Fabiola Miller, Human Embryology and Teratology, 3rd edition.
Dr. Morris Krieger “The Human Reproductive System”
James Bopp, ed., Human Life and Health Care Ethics, vol. 2
Rand McNally, Atlas of the Body (New York: Rand McNally, 1980) 139, 144
Prenatal Care, US Department of Health and Human Services, Maternal and Child Health Div 1990
Leslie Brainerd Arey, “Developmental Anatomy” seventh edition
In the Womb, National Geographic, 2005
DeCoursey, R.M., The Human Organism, 4th edition
Thibodeau, G.A., and Anthony, C.P., Structure and Function of the Body, 8th edition
Scarr, S., Weinberg, R.A., and Levine A., Understanding Development
Clark, J. ed., The Nervous System: Circuits of Communication in the Human Body
Turner, J.S., and Helms, D.B., Lifespan Developmental, 2nd ed
Carlson, Bruce M. Patten’s Foundations of Embryology. 6th edition.
Considine, Douglas (ed.). Van Nostrand’s Scientific Encyclopedia. 5th edition
Lennart Nilsson A Child is Born: Completely Revised Edition
Kaluger, G., and Kaluger, M., Human Development: The Span of Life
Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition
Human Embryology, 3rd ed. Bradley M. Patten
Essentials of Human Embryology, William J. Larsen
From Human Embryology & Teratology, Ronan R. O’Rahilly, Fabiola Muller
The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 6th ed. Keith L. Moore, Ph.D. & T.V.N. Persaud, Md.

That only speaks to abortion. There are other reasons people seek to end human life which many find reasonable.

And I note, you won't even stand behind your own convictions when it comes to abortion. When asked if you want abortion to be illegal -- you won't answer "yes" or "no."

That is the only issue we are discussing here. I am afraid if you want to make a two wrongs makes a right argument you will need to have that discussion with someone else as I would only laugh at such a ridiculous assertion. As to my convictions, I really couldn't care less of what you think.

You said, "There really is no good reason to end a human life."

That is not limited to abortion and there are other reasons some people believe there are good reasons to end a human life.

But speaking of abortion ... if you think abortion is wrong, why don't you want it outlawed?

 

[Divine Wind]

They all say you are full of shit.

The person full of shit is the lying, anti-military coward who conflates Zygote with a human being.

 

[Divine Wind]

No. There really is no good reason to end a human life.

So you are anti-war? That would explain your dislike of the military.

Are you anti-death penalty with the same fervor as you are anti-abortion?

 

[ding]

No. There really is no good reason to end a human life.

Many disagree with you.

That doesn't surprise me at all. These guys and gals all say that those people are full of shit.

Dr. Micheline Matthews-Roth Harvard Medical School
Dr. Jasper Williams, Former President of the National Medical Association
Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland
Okada et al., A role for the elongator complex in zygotic paternal genome demethylation, NATURE 463:554 (Jan. 28, 2010)
Signorelli et al., Kinases, phosphatases and proteases during sperm capacitation, CELL TISSUE RES. 349(3):765 (Mar. 20, 2012)
Coy et al., Roles of the oviduct in mammalian fertilization, REPRODUCTION 144(6):649 (Oct. 1, 2012)
Marcello et al., Fertilization, ADV. EXP. BIOL. 757:321 (2013)
Steven Ertelt”Undisputed Scientific Fact: Human Life Begins at Conception, or Fertilization” LifeNews.com 11/18/13
Keith L. Moore, The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2003. pp. 16, 2.
Kaluger, G., and Kaluger, M., Human Development: The Span of Life, page 28-29, The C.V. Mosby Co., St. Louis, 1974.
F Beck Human Embryology, Blackwell Scientific Publications, 1985 page vi
Clark Edward and Corliss Patten’s Human Embryology, McGraw – Hill Inc., 30
The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology fifth edition, Moore and Persaud, 1993, Saunders Company, page 1
Prenatal Care, US Department Of Health And Human Services, Maternal and Child Health Division, 1990
Landrum B. Shettles “Rites of Life: The Scientific Evidence for Life Before Birth” Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1983 p 40
Keith L. Moore & T.V.N. Persaud Before We Are Born – Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects (W.B. Saunders Company, 1998. Fifth edition.) Page 500
Sally B Olds, et al., Obstetric Nursing (Menlo Park, California: Addison – Wesley publishing, 1980) P 136
Eric Pastuszek. Is the Fetus Human? (Rockford, Illinois: Tan books And Publishers Inc., 1991)
J.P. Greenhill and E.A. Freidman. Biological Principles and Modern Practice of Obstetrics.
T.W. Sadler, Langman’s Medical Embryology, 10th edition.
Keith L. Moore, Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology, 7th edition.
Ronan O’Rahilly and Fabiola Miller, Human Embryology and Teratology, 3rd edition.
Dr. Morris Krieger “The Human Reproductive System”
James Bopp, ed., Human Life and Health Care Ethics, vol. 2
Rand McNally, Atlas of the Body (New York: Rand McNally, 1980) 139, 144
Prenatal Care, US Department of Health and Human Services, Maternal and Child Health Div 1990
Leslie Brainerd Arey, “Developmental Anatomy” seventh edition
In the Womb, National Geographic, 2005
DeCoursey, R.M., The Human Organism, 4th edition
Thibodeau, G.A., and Anthony, C.P., Structure and Function of the Body, 8th edition
Scarr, S., Weinberg, R.A., and Levine A., Understanding Development
Clark, J. ed., The Nervous System: Circuits of Communication in the Human Body
Turner, J.S., and Helms, D.B., Lifespan Developmental, 2nd ed
Carlson, Bruce M. Patten’s Foundations of Embryology. 6th edition.
Considine, Douglas (ed.). Van Nostrand’s Scientific Encyclopedia. 5th edition
Lennart Nilsson A Child is Born: Completely Revised Edition
Kaluger, G., and Kaluger, M., Human Development: The Span of Life
Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition
Human Embryology, 3rd ed. Bradley M. Patten
Essentials of Human Embryology, William J. Larsen
From Human Embryology & Teratology, Ronan R. O’Rahilly, Fabiola Muller
The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 6th ed. Keith L. Moore, Ph.D. & T.V.N. Persaud, Md.

That only speaks to abortion. There are other reasons people seek to end human life which many find reasonable.

And I note, you won't even stand behind your own convictions when it comes to abortion. When asked if you want abortion to be illegal -- you won't answer "yes" or "no."

That is the only issue we are discussing here. I am afraid if you want to make a two wrongs makes a right argument you will need to have that discussion with someone else as I would only laugh at such a ridiculous assertion. As to my convictions, I really couldn't care less of what you think.

You said, "There really is no good reason to end a human life."

That is not limited to abortion and there are other reasons some people believe there are good reasons to end a human life.

But speaking of abortion ... if you think abortion is wrong, why don't you want it outlawed?

Of course it's not limited to abortion.

As to the legality of abortion... Sorry, I can only have that discussion with some one who is genuine. That rules you out.

 

[ding]

They all say you are full of shit.

The person full of shit is the lying, anti-military coward who conflates Zygote with a human being.

A zygote is a human being. Have God explain it to you when you meet Him.

I'm not onyx

 

[Divine Wind]

A zygote is a human being. Have God explain it to you when you meet Him.

God has when I died. I'll pray for the liars and haters like you who have stepped away from God's grace.

Nice dodge on the war and death penalty question. I'm guessing you're for both but don't want to look like those fucking lying liberal ***** who say one thing and do another. Fucking hypocrites are a bane on this nation.

 

[ding]

A zygote is a human being. Have God explain it to you when you meet Him.

God has when I died. I'll pray for the liars and haters like you who have stepped away from God's grace.

When you die you will be forced to judge yourself, except this time you will do so without the aid of an ego which is clouding your vision. The reality is that you condone abortion which is the taking of one of God's creatures. You can rationalize it all you want here on earth, but when you meet Him, you will see your error. Every single life that is aborted or lost naturally in the womb will be with God who is their Creator.

 

[ding]

A zygote is a human being. Have God explain it to you when you meet Him.

God has when I died. I'll pray for the liars and haters like you who have stepped away from God's grace.

Nice dodge on the war and death penalty question. I'm guessing you're for both but don't want to look like those fucking lying liberal ***** who say one thing and do another. Fucking hypocrites are a bane on this nation.

Luke 12:7 Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

DNA is how they are numbered. DNA is established at conception.

 

[Divine Wind]

When you die you will be forced to judge yourself, except this time you will do so without the aid of an ego which is clouding your vision. The reality is that you condone abortion which is the taking of one of God's creatures. You can rationalize it all you want here on earth, but when you meet Him, you will see your error. Every single life that is aborted or lost naturally in the womb will be with God who is their Creator.

BTDT

You're constant, unrepentant lies and habitual bearing of false witness against others is proof you've stepped into the darkness away from God's grace.

 

[ding]

A zygote is a human being. Have God explain it to you when you meet Him.

God has when I died. I'll pray for the liars and haters like you who have stepped away from God's grace.

Nice dodge on the war and death penalty question. I'm guessing you're for both but don't want to look like those fucking lying liberal ***** who say one thing and do another. Fucking hypocrites are a bane on this nation.

Luke 12

2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. 3 What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs.

6 Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God.

At conception a unique human being is created. One that has never existed before and will never exist again. It is one of God's creatures. One that was created in His image. He or she will not be forgotten by Him.

 

[ding]

When you die you will be forced to judge yourself, except this time you will do so without the aid of an ego which is clouding your vision. The reality is that you condone abortion which is the taking of one of God's creatures. You can rationalize it all you want here on earth, but when you meet Him, you will see your error. Every single life that is aborted or lost naturally in the womb will be with God who is their Creator.

BTDT

You're constant, unrepentant lies and habitual bearing of false witness against others is proof you've stepped into the darkness away from God's grace.

The truth usually hurts before it helps. The choice is yours. Choose wisely.

 

[ding]

When you die you will be forced to judge yourself, except this time you will do so without the aid of an ego which is clouding your vision. The reality is that you condone abortion which is the taking of one of God's creatures. You can rationalize it all you want here on earth, but when you meet Him, you will see your error. Every single life that is aborted or lost naturally in the womb will be with God who is their Creator.

BTDT

You're constant, unrepentant lies and habitual bearing of false witness against others is proof you've stepped into the darkness away from God's grace.

I don't claim to be a saint.

 

[ding]

A zygote is a human being. Have God explain it to you when you meet Him.

God has when I died. I'll pray for the liars and haters like you who have stepped away from God's grace.

Nice dodge on the war and death penalty question. I'm guessing you're for both but don't want to look like those fucking lying liberal ***** who say one thing and do another. Fucking hypocrites are a bane on this nation.

I'll have that war and death penalty discussion with you, but I'm done with the abortion discussion with you. It wasn't really clear to me that you wanted to have a war and death penalty discussion. You were ranting and incoherent.

 

[ding]

The short answer is that ending a human life is always wrong. That goes for abortion, the death penalty, war and even defending one's self. How do I know? Because of how it makes you feel. Even if it is truly justified, most people with a conscience will still feel bad about doing it. So, how do I rationalize that it is right? I don't. I don't need to do it. I can ask for forgiveness. As long as I admit that I did wrong and truly repent I can be forgiven. Saying our sins out loud to another person has an incredible healing power. It releases the power that sin has upon us. In effect, we are only as sick as the secrets we keep.

 

[BreezeWood]

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the point people are trying to make with you is that all life begins at conception, or is there a difference with you ...

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Yes. All life does begin at conception because it does meet the definition of a living thing.

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ding: Yes. All life does begin at conception because it does meet the definition of a living thing.


that's not what you were asked ....

the point people are trying to make with you is that all life begins at conception, or is there a difference with you ...

are humans living things ....

.

I guess I don't understand your question. Yes, all life begins at conception when a new living being, as identified by his unique DNA, that has never existed before and will never exist again, is created into existence. That's about as clear as I can be on this subject. So, what is it that you want to know?

.

ding: Yes, all life begins at conception when a new living being, as identified by his unique DNA, that has never existed before and will never exist again, is created into existence.

is your unborn equivalent to to the Lamb being led to slaughter ...

Political C did not reply to the question above, whether the relative value of an embryo is greater than the life of a living being ... care to give a reply

Ending any human life for selfish reasons is wrong.

for selfish reasons ... ?


... is that to mean otherwise it is fine ? - such as for the sustenance of Garden Earth.

.

No. There really is no good reason to end a human life.

.

No. There really is no good reason to end a human life.

why not answer questions people are interested in for a reply - is the human embryo greater than the life of a Lamb being led to slaughter ...

are you a vegetarian ...

.

 

[ding]

Yes. All life does begin at conception because it does meet the definition of a living thing.

.
ding: Yes. All life does begin at conception because it does meet the definition of a living thing.


that's not what you were asked ....

the point people are trying to make with you is that all life begins at conception, or is there a difference with you ...

are humans living things ....

.

I guess I don't understand your question. Yes, all life begins at conception when a new living being, as identified by his unique DNA, that has never existed before and will never exist again, is created into existence. That's about as clear as I can be on this subject. So, what is it that you want to know?

.

ding: Yes, all life begins at conception when a new living being, as identified by his unique DNA, that has never existed before and will never exist again, is created into existence.

is your unborn equivalent to to the Lamb being led to slaughter ...

Political C did not reply to the question above, whether the relative value of an embryo is greater than the life of a living being ... care to give a reply

Ending any human life for selfish reasons is wrong.

for selfish reasons ... ?


... is that to mean otherwise it is fine ? - such as for the sustenance of Garden Earth.

.

No. There really is no good reason to end a human life.

.

No. There really is no good reason to end a human life.

why not answer questions people are interested in for a reply - is the human embryo greater than the life of a Lamb being led to slaughter ...

are you a vegetarian ...

.

I didn't understand that that was the question you were asking before. Yes, I believe it is. Now if you will excuse me, I have a delicious hamburger waiting for me. I think I probably answered your 2nd question, right? Why did you capitalize lamb? I'm really not much of a fan of mutton anyway.

 

[BreezeWood]

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ding: Yes. All life does begin at conception because it does meet the definition of a living thing.


that's not what you were asked ....


are humans living things ....

.

I guess I don't understand your question. Yes, all life begins at conception when a new living being, as identified by his unique DNA, that has never existed before and will never exist again, is created into existence. That's about as clear as I can be on this subject. So, what is it that you want to know?

.

ding: Yes, all life begins at conception when a new living being, as identified by his unique DNA, that has never existed before and will never exist again, is created into existence.

is your unborn equivalent to to the Lamb being led to slaughter ...

Political C did not reply to the question above, whether the relative value of an embryo is greater than the life of a living being ... care to give a reply

Ending any human life for selfish reasons is wrong.

for selfish reasons ... ?


... is that to mean otherwise it is fine ? - such as for the sustenance of Garden Earth.

.

No. There really is no good reason to end a human life.

.

No. There really is no good reason to end a human life.

why not answer questions people are interested in for a reply - is the human embryo greater than the life of a Lamb being led to slaughter ...

are you a vegetarian ...

.

I didn't understand that that was the question you were asking before. Yes, I believe it is. Now if you will excuse me, I have a delicious hamburger waiting for me. I think I probably answered your 2nd question, right? Why did you capitalize lamb? I'm really not much of a fan of mutton anyway.

.

Luke 12:7 - Luke 12

I have a delicious hamburger waiting for me.


the lost Spirit speaks for itself ... too bad for it.

.

 

[ding]

I guess I don't understand your question. Yes, all life begins at conception when a new living being, as identified by his unique DNA, that has never existed before and will never exist again, is created into existence. That's about as clear as I can be on this subject. So, what is it that you want to know?

.

ding: Yes, all life begins at conception when a new living being, as identified by his unique DNA, that has never existed before and will never exist again, is created into existence.

is your unborn equivalent to to the Lamb being led to slaughter ...

Political C did not reply to the question above, whether the relative value of an embryo is greater than the life of a living being ... care to give a reply

Ending any human life for selfish reasons is wrong.

for selfish reasons ... ?


... is that to mean otherwise it is fine ? - such as for the sustenance of Garden Earth.

.

No. There really is no good reason to end a human life.

.

No. There really is no good reason to end a human life.

why not answer questions people are interested in for a reply - is the human embryo greater than the life of a Lamb being led to slaughter ...

are you a vegetarian ...

.

I didn't understand that that was the question you were asking before. Yes, I believe it is. Now if you will excuse me, I have a delicious hamburger waiting for me. I think I probably answered your 2nd question, right? Why did you capitalize lamb? I'm really not much of a fan of mutton anyway.

.

Luke 12:7 - Luke 12

I have a delicious hamburger waiting for me.


the lost Spirit speaks for itself ... too bad for it.

.

I'm sorry to disappoint you. Is this the end of the discussion?

 

[Faun]

Many disagree with you.

That doesn't surprise me at all. These guys and gals all say that those people are full of shit.

Dr. Micheline Matthews-Roth Harvard Medical School
Dr. Jasper Williams, Former President of the National Medical Association
Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland
Okada et al., A role for the elongator complex in zygotic paternal genome demethylation, NATURE 463:554 (Jan. 28, 2010)
Signorelli et al., Kinases, phosphatases and proteases during sperm capacitation, CELL TISSUE RES. 349(3):765 (Mar. 20, 2012)
Coy et al., Roles of the oviduct in mammalian fertilization, REPRODUCTION 144(6):649 (Oct. 1, 2012)
Marcello et al., Fertilization, ADV. EXP. BIOL. 757:321 (2013)
Steven Ertelt”Undisputed Scientific Fact: Human Life Begins at Conception, or Fertilization” LifeNews.com 11/18/13
Keith L. Moore, The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2003. pp. 16, 2.
Kaluger, G., and Kaluger, M., Human Development: The Span of Life, page 28-29, The C.V. Mosby Co., St. Louis, 1974.
F Beck Human Embryology, Blackwell Scientific Publications, 1985 page vi
Clark Edward and Corliss Patten’s Human Embryology, McGraw – Hill Inc., 30
The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology fifth edition, Moore and Persaud, 1993, Saunders Company, page 1
Prenatal Care, US Department Of Health And Human Services, Maternal and Child Health Division, 1990
Landrum B. Shettles “Rites of Life: The Scientific Evidence for Life Before Birth” Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1983 p 40
Keith L. Moore & T.V.N. Persaud Before We Are Born – Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects (W.B. Saunders Company, 1998. Fifth edition.) Page 500
Sally B Olds, et al., Obstetric Nursing (Menlo Park, California: Addison – Wesley publishing, 1980) P 136
Eric Pastuszek. Is the Fetus Human? (Rockford, Illinois: Tan books And Publishers Inc., 1991)
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That only speaks to abortion. There are other reasons people seek to end human life which many find reasonable.

And I note, you won't even stand behind your own convictions when it comes to abortion. When asked if you want abortion to be illegal -- you won't answer "yes" or "no."

That is the only issue we are discussing here. I am afraid if you want to make a two wrongs makes a right argument you will need to have that discussion with someone else as I would only laugh at such a ridiculous assertion. As to my convictions, I really couldn't care less of what you think.

You said, "There really is no good reason to end a human life."

That is not limited to abortion and there are other reasons some people believe there are good reasons to end a human life.

But speaking of abortion ... if you think abortion is wrong, why don't you want it outlawed?

Of course it's not limited to abortion.

As to the legality of abortion... Sorry, I can only have that discussion with some one who is genuine. That rules you out.

LOL

That you can't even state your position speaks volumes about you.

So not only is abortion not murder, you can't even render a valid objection because you can't even say it should be illegal.