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How can the leave something out when the subject is street signs and wasting millions to do so.On its face it's ridiculous. And it may well be.
But the article is from the NY Post, so who knows what's left out of the story. *shrug*
So you have no problem with govt wasting millions on shit because a story might have not told you that they are replacing the poles also.
Everyone has their own little empire to protect.
Even though this was a Bush regulation, I don't see what's wrong with it. Creating standards is a clear constitutional responsibility. \
Wow ,I never read the Constitution that way .
I always saw it as handcuffs on the Government , not as the invisible hand of universal compliance and uniformity.
Wow ,I never read the Constitution that way .
I always saw it as handcuffs on the Government , not as the invisible hand of universal compliance and uniformity.
Increase readability? Is it really that hard to READ IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS?
And if this is such a big deal, why don't they just slowly phase them in on a case by case basis?
The Capital of the World is going lower-case.
Federal copy editors are demanding the city change its 250,900 street signs -- such as these for Perry Avenue in The Bronx -- from the all-caps style used for more than a century to ones that capitalize only the first letters.
Changing BROADWAY to Broadway will save lives, the Federal Highway Administration contends in its updated Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, citing improved readability.
At $110 per sign, it will also cost the state $27.6 million, city officials said.
The new regulations also require a change in font from the standard highway typeface to Clearview, which was specially developed for this purpose.
As a result, even numbered street signs will have to be replaced.
Read more: Under new federal guidelines all New York City street signs will have to be made lower-case - NYPOST.com
Our tax dollars at work. Good to see that the feds have their priorities in order. Maybe it will "save or create" a few more jobs.
The Highway Administration acknowledged that New York and other states "opposed the change, and suggested that the use of all upper-case letters remain an option," noting that "while the mixed-case words might be easier to read, the amount of improvement in legibility did not justify the cost."
To compensate for those concerns, in 2003, the administration allowed for a 15-year
phase-in period ending in 2018.
Increase readability? Is it really that hard to READ IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS?
And if this is such a big deal, why don't they just slowly phase them in on a case by case basis?
At a distance, it's difficult to see spaces in road signs. Using proper case, makes that easier. Earlier in this thread, there's the report that Bush used to form the regulation. It's an interesting read, and makes a compelling argument. The standard also makes it much easier to read signs using peripheral vision, which means people keep their eyes on the road much longer.
(damn, I can't believe I'm here defending something that Bush did)
While they are redoing them, maybe they can add Braille...
Otherwise Blind Drivers won't Know where they are at either!
peace...
I was thinking that also. May as well go for putting these signs in 3 or 4 different languages as well.
Damn it... I Forgot about that also... I'm so Insensitive.
peace...
Increase readability? Is it really that hard to READ IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS?
And if this is such a big deal, why don't they just slowly phase them in on a case by case basis?
At a distance, it's difficult to see spaces in road signs. Using proper case, makes that easier. Earlier in this thread, there's the report that Bush used to form the regulation. It's an interesting read, and makes a compelling argument. The standard also makes it much easier to read signs using peripheral vision, which means people keep their eyes on the road much longer.
(damn, I can't believe I'm here defending something that Bush did)
Still waiting for that explanation regarding applicability of Article 1 Section 8 of The Constitution.
At a distance, it's difficult to see spaces in road signs. Using proper case, makes that easier. Earlier in this thread, there's the report that Bush used to form the regulation. It's an interesting read, and makes a compelling argument. The standard also makes it much easier to read signs using peripheral vision, which means people keep their eyes on the road much longer.
(damn, I can't believe I'm here defending something that Bush did)
Still waiting for that explanation regarding applicability of Article 1 Section 8 of The Constitution.
Setting national standards under the weights and measures clause is pretty clear, and has been accepted since our inception. 110v AC is a federal standard. Do you want that to go away? How about the federal standard for common gauge railroad tracks?
You'll have a hard time arguing that the federal government does not have the constitutional authority to set standards on things as common as road signs.
At a distance, it's difficult to see spaces in road signs. Using proper case, makes that easier. Earlier in this thread, there's the report that Bush used to form the regulation. It's an interesting read, and makes a compelling argument. The standard also makes it much easier to read signs using peripheral vision, which means people keep their eyes on the road much longer.
(damn, I can't believe I'm here defending something that Bush did)
Still waiting for that explanation regarding applicability of Article 1 Section 8 of The Constitution.
Setting national standards under the weights and measures clause is pretty clear, and has been accepted since our inception. With the commerce clause, it's clear that the feds do have authority to set standards. 110v AC is a federal standard. Do you want that to go away? How about the federal standard for common gauge railroad tracks?
You'll have a hard time arguing that the federal government does not have the constitutional authority to set standards on things as common as road signs.
This is the kind of thing that should be eliminated by a line-item veto, but who is going to go through and pick out all the little million-here, million-there crap and risk endless bickering in Congress over, say a few million to change street signs? And would the USSC reverse its own decision that the line item veto is unconstitutional in the first place?
On its face it's ridiculous. And it may well be.
But the article is from the NY Post, so who knows what's left out of the story. *shrug*
Wanna bet that this bright idea comes from 'research'. That's some more tax dollars well spent.
While I don't think that this is money well spent, I am a fan of fonts and road signage. I am a "Roadgeek".
Here are some interesting articles on Clearview:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/magazine/12fonts-t.html
Signs of Change: How a new font called Clearview is changing Americas highways: The Hardest Year
The studies...
http://tti.tamu.edu/documents/0-4984-S.pdf
http://tti.tamu.edu/documents/0-4984-1.pdf
And a video...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l46fb_hn6yE]YouTube - Signs of Change: How the new Clearview font is changing America's highways[/ame]
Read more: Under new federal guidelines all New York City street signs will have to be made lower-case - NYPOST.com
Our tax dollars at work. Good to see that the feds have their priorities in order. Maybe it will "save or create" a few more jobs.
Each sign may cost $110 each, but you also have to add in the salary of the 5 person crew to change it. So your $27 million job is in reality will be more likely be $127 million.
So what if it does, not that you've shown that the total cost wasn't accounted. It's NY cities and states money. If they feel this is good use, that's up to them.
Each sign may cost $110 each, but you also have to add in the salary of the 5 person crew to change it. So your $27 million job is in reality will be more likely be $127 million.
So what if it does, not that you've shown that the total cost wasn't accounted. It's NY cities and states money. If they feel this is good use, that's up to them.
New York got a federal bailout. It's not their money.
Read more: Under new federal guidelines all New York City street signs will have to be made lower-case - NYPOST.com
Our tax dollars at work. Good to see that the feds have their priorities in order. Maybe it will "save or create" a few more jobs.
Each sign may cost $110 each, but you also have to add in the salary of the 5 person crew to change it. So your $27 million job is in reality will be more likely be $127 million.
And just think of the 10 or 12 Jobs Saved Or Created the Obamanoids will add to the tally!