Zalensky rejects peace....Trump halts all weapons shipments

[Zavulon]

We have video and record keeping. Russian propaganda is obvious.

We have cinema films, photoes and documents about Baltic states willingly joined the USSR. But they still call it Russian propaganda. Same way they'll call your videos "American propaganda".

Without peacekeepers there is no ceasefire.

So, there won't be ceasefire.

Nuclear War is not inevitable. Someone needs to push the button first. It won't be us.

Of course, it will be us. Surgical counter-force strike for starters, then coerction into peace on our terms.

Peacekeepers would only enter Ukraine as part of a peace deal. Russian troops are war weary already. They would fare badly against modern NATO militaries.

NATO (without USA) militaries won't match nuclear-capable Russian forces.

Never happen. Keep Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhask and call it a win.

Its not about territory and never was. It's all about equal rights and equal safety. So, we shall fight and win.

Neutrality means no NATO. EU is an economic coalition, not a military one.

Neutrality means no anti-Russian alliances. While one of publically declared goals of EU is "decolonisation of Russia", EU is anti-Russian organisation. And if enemy doesn't surrender its to be eliminated.

Another roadblock to a peace deal.

We are quite good about continuing the war.

Never happen. Looks like another million Russians will die in Ukraine. For nothing.

Not for nothing. For the elimination of Fourth Reich and safety of Russia.

 

[Zavulon]

Legal shmegal

Legally my country once belonged to the king of England

The people of Taiwan have made it clear they do not want to be ruled by communist china

Actually, a bit more than half of Taiwanese voted for pro-Continental parties. Modern China is not that communist.

 

[Zavulon]

And they identify as Taiwanese instead of chinese

How many Californians identify themselves as Californians?

 

[Mister Iggy]

 

[Mister Iggy]

 

[Zavulon]

I was right

"I will wear costume after this war will finish," Zelensky replied. (The word "suit" can be translated into Ukrainian as "kostyum".)

Actually, "Kostyum" (from French "costume") is a Russian word. The proper Ukrainian words for "suit" are "ubrannya", "odyag" or "stryi".

 

[Zavulon]

We didn't give them any jets. The EU provided the F16s, the US simply approved it. Biden's response was the definition of too little too late.

As far as I can understand, Biden's real goal wasn't "defeat Russia" (he knew, that its impossible), but to force Russia pay high (but conventionally acceptable) price, but avoid nuclear escalation. And, of course, steal some American taxpayers money in process.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Any country that wants to can apply for NATO membership.

Russia has zero say in it

Maybe you should go find out some more
Maybe

 

[krichton]

As far as I can understand, Biden's real goal wasn't "defeat Russia" (he knew, that its impossible), but to force Russia pay high (but conventionally acceptable) price, but avoid nuclear escalation. And, of course, steal some American taxpayers money in process.

Why add that last bit of conspiracy theory when you know it's a completely nonsensical partisan talking point? All you're accomplishing is invalidating your credibility and argument.

 

[krichton]

None of those Zelensky/Putin ceasefire deals involved the presence of American citizens working in Ukraine. If Zelensky hadn't been so stupid and arrogant and Trump's deal came to fruition, Russia would have known better than to further their expansionism. The fact that they never invaded Ukraine during Trump's first term says everything you need to know. Unlike the weak Obama and Biden administration, during which the invasions happened. Trump was right: Had he been elected in 2020, the Ukraine war would have never happened.

The minute Putin decides to attack, he will likely contact the United States letting them know ahead of time. This is what each side does in order to avoid any unnecessary casualties and any potential escalation between them. The US will obviously alert the various companies mining Ukraine and they will pull their workers out sometime before the invasion. This is why a business transaction isn't a peace deal and why Zelensky insisted on a security guarantee.

 

[krichton]

You're full of shit dude. Putin was ready to come to the table to work out an end to the war, but that ******* troll Zelensky was too stupid to accept the deal.

So **** him and Ukraine. Now thanks to the stupidity of Zelensky, the Russians will continue to wage war on them.

"come to the table." Putin hasn't made a single concession and demands that Ukraine demilitarize as part of any "peace deal." lmao. I'll give you two guesses why he's asking for that

 

[Zavulon]

Why add that last bit of conspiracy theory when you know it's a completely nonsensical partisan talking point? All you're accomplishing is invalidating your credibility and argument.

I thought it's "conspiracy" to say that American politician don't steal taxpayers money. May be not directly, but through contracts to their wallets or other ways. Of course, my understanding of American political life is limited to watching few TV-series like "House of cards". But if you insist that there is no any form of corruption in the USA, I'm not going to discuss it.

 

[Zavulon]

The minute Putin decides to attack, he will likely contact the United States letting them know ahead of time. This is what each side does in order to avoid any unnecessary casualties and any potential escalation between them. The US will obviously alert the various companies mining Ukraine and they will pull their workers out sometime before the invasion. This is why a business transaction isn't a peace deal and why Zelensky insisted on a security guarantee.

And this is we are not even talking about Russian rebels, not controlled by official Moscow.

 

[Zavulon]

"come to the table." Putin hasn't made a single concession and demands that Ukraine demilitarize as part of any "peace deal." lmao. I'll give you two guesses why he's asking for that

To be ready to help rebellions in Kharkov and Odessa, if necessary, of course.

 

[JGalt]

I was right

"I will wear costume after this war will finish," Zelensky replied. (The word "suit" can be translated into Ukrainian as "kostyum".)

 

[Godboy]

Stop posting ignorant bs.

State Department terminates U.S. support of Ukraine energy grid restoration

The USAID initiative had invested hundreds of millions of dollars in helping Ukraine's energy grid recover from attacks from Russia.

www.nbcnews.com

Is it really too much work to simply google "USAID Ukraine" before posting about USAID and Ukraine?

Hey retard, i said "we dont need USAID in order to hand out checks". We dont. We are perfectly capable of writing checks without USAID. You suck at this bro.

 

[Deadstick]

Hopefully not

China is going to be a tough out

When they invade Taiwan it will be difficult to stop them

But we can do it

If China decided to invade Taiwan no one could stop them thatis just a fact, just look at the location and numbers.

 

[Deadstick]

Hey retard, i said "we dont need USAID in order to hand out checks". We dont. We are perfectly capable of writing checks without USAID. You suck at this bro.

Will they bounce?

 

[Mac-7]

Newsflash. China is watching us abandon Ukraine

They gotta be thinking we’d abandon Taiwan as well

That makes it much more likely that they’d go after it

This is only the 3rd quarter

The game isnt over yet

admittedly trump is practicing his usual bull-in-a-china-shop deal making technique

And its not pretty for delicate trump haters to see

They are used to biden falling down the steps or kamala harris yapping about nonsense

But if Trump brings the war to an end thats what counts

 

[Mac-7]

If China decided to invade Taiwan no one could stop them thatis just a fact, just look at the location and numbers.

Wrong

No one can stop china from attacking Taiwan if they choose to do so

But successfully occupying the island is a much more iffy task