Your view on Socialism/Communism/Liberalism

[Nosmo King]

All the best countries are mostly capitalist, all the best are nearly 100%.


No capitalist nation has ever failed, not one.

socialist list of failed nations is long and a bit horrific.

Where are the "nearly 100%" capitalist nations?

most capitalist countries - Google Search

look for yourself.

tired of; "that's a hack site" when I never heard of it before

The United States, Great Britain, Germany are all nations with healthy elements of socialism.

and massive debt

drop socialism and the debt drops and drops and no one dies or suffers, as is the myth

Let's tell Grandpa that he no longer should get his Social Security checks.

 

[dblack]

All the best countries are mostly capitalist, all the best are nearly 100%.


No capitalist nation has ever failed, not one.

socialist list of failed nations is long and a bit horrific.

Where are the "nearly 100%" capitalist nations?

most capitalist countries - Google Search

look for yourself.

tired of; "that's a hack site" when I never heard of it before

The United States, Great Britain, Germany are all nations with healthy elements of socialism.

and massive debt

drop socialism and the debt drops and drops and no one dies or suffers, as is the myth

Let's tell Grandpa that he no longer should get his Social Security checks.

Nobody is suggesting that. Anyone who's been forced to pay into the system their entire life should get full benefits.

Instead, let's tell junior that he gets to keep that big chunk of his paycheck currently going to FICA.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It was Barnie Frank, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd, once again , who got US fucked in 2008.

No, it was big greedy banks.

I'm sorry I have to keep explaining this to you, but Barnie Frank wasn't the guy who took bad mortgages and sold them off as investments by lying about their value.

That was your boys at the big banks.

Barack Obama Lashes Out at Banks For Risky Mortgages in Weekly Address ...Forgets to Mention His Lawsuit Forced Banks to Ease Lending Practices

But Obama forgot to mention that he was the one who sued banks to force them to make loans to families who couldn’t afford them.
In 1994, Barack Obama was one of the plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit, alleging that Citibank had engaged in practices that discriminated against minorities. The lawsuit forced the bank to ease its lending practices.

These are unintended consequences when liberals get involved. They say they are FOR THE PEOPLE, but in the long run, the liberal elite bank owners, get the profits, and the little guy gets screwed.

Jamie Dimon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As head of JPMorgan Chase, Dimon oversaw the transfer of $25 billion in funds from the U.S. Treasury Department to the bank on October 28, 2008, under the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP).

Dimon donates primarily to the Democratic Party.

Joe you hate big banks, but big banks are contributing to the diaper wearing candidate who has a vagina. Your interests don't matter , but Dimon's sure does. Maybe if you contributed more to the Clinton Crime Foundation, your voice might be heard.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

All the best countries are mostly capitalist, all the best are nearly 100%.


No capitalist nation has ever failed, not one.

socialist list of failed nations is long and a bit horrific.

Where are the "nearly 100%" capitalist nations?

most capitalist countries - Google Search

look for yourself.

tired of; "that's a hack site" when I never heard of it before

The United States, Great Britain, Germany are all nations with healthy elements of socialism.

and massive debt

drop socialism and the debt drops and drops and no one dies or suffers, as is the myth

Let's tell Grandpa that he no longer should get his Social Security checks.

Better yet, tell the illegals and lazy democrat schlobs that their welfare checks will no longer arrive, see how long they sit on their couches, smoking dope, eating government cheese, and using their FREE cellphones. Soon they will be out there in Obama's roaring economic recovery working 29 fulltime hours, having to put their hard earned money into the social security fund<SARCASM>

 

[Conservative65]

Where are the "nearly 100%" capitalist nations?

most capitalist countries - Google Search

look for yourself.

tired of; "that's a hack site" when I never heard of it before

The United States, Great Britain, Germany are all nations with healthy elements of socialism.

and massive debt

drop socialism and the debt drops and drops and no one dies or suffers, as is the myth

Let's tell Grandpa that he no longer should get his Social Security checks.

Better yet, tell the illegals and lazy democrat schlobs that their welfare checks will no longer arrive, see how long they sit on their couches, smoking dope, eating government cheese, and using their FREE cellphones. Soon they will be out there in Obama's roaring economic recovery working 29 fulltime hours, having to put their hard earned money into the social security fund<SARCASM>

Tell all those that claim they can't find a job that the handouts end on (fill in the date) and see how quickly they find something they say doesn't exist.

 

[occupied]

It was Barnie Frank, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd, once again , who got US fucked in 2008.

No, it was big greedy banks.

I'm sorry I have to keep explaining this to you, but Barnie Frank wasn't the guy who took bad mortgages and sold them off as investments by lying about their value.

That was your boys at the big banks.

Barack Obama Lashes Out at Banks For Risky Mortgages in Weekly Address ...Forgets to Mention His Lawsuit Forced Banks to Ease Lending Practices

But Obama forgot to mention that he was the one who sued banks to force them to make loans to families who couldn’t afford them.
In 1994, Barack Obama was one of the plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit, alleging that Citibank had engaged in practices that discriminated against minorities. The lawsuit forced the bank to ease its lending practices.

These are unintended consequences when liberals get involved. They say they are FOR THE PEOPLE, but in the long run, the liberal elite bank owners, get the profits, and the little guy gets screwed.

Jamie Dimon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As head of JPMorgan Chase, Dimon oversaw the transfer of $25 billion in funds from the U.S. Treasury Department to the bank on October 28, 2008, under the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP).

Dimon donates primarily to the Democratic Party.

Joe you hate big banks, but big banks are contributing to the diaper wearing candidate who has a vagina. Your interests don't matter , but Dimon's sure does. Maybe if you contributed more to the Clinton Crime Foundation, your voice might be heard.

Poor people buying houses did not cause the meltdown. However let's look for a moment at the practice of redlining. It's where banks just draw a line around poor neighborhoods and refuse to lend there even if the applicant meets all other requirements. I take it you think this kind of thing is just fine.

 

[Onyx]

So essentially, you don't actually understand what "Socialism" means.

Are we using the Marxist definition or the later definition instituted by the Trotskyists?

Collective economics is socialism in all regards. Government participation in the economy is controlling the means of production through collective means.

Perhaps you do not understand the meaning of socialism?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It was Barnie Frank, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd, once again , who got US fucked in 2008.

No, it was big greedy banks.

I'm sorry I have to keep explaining this to you, but Barnie Frank wasn't the guy who took bad mortgages and sold them off as investments by lying about their value.

That was your boys at the big banks.

Barack Obama Lashes Out at Banks For Risky Mortgages in Weekly Address ...Forgets to Mention His Lawsuit Forced Banks to Ease Lending Practices

But Obama forgot to mention that he was the one who sued banks to force them to make loans to families who couldn’t afford them.
In 1994, Barack Obama was one of the plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit, alleging that Citibank had engaged in practices that discriminated against minorities. The lawsuit forced the bank to ease its lending practices.

These are unintended consequences when liberals get involved. They say they are FOR THE PEOPLE, but in the long run, the liberal elite bank owners, get the profits, and the little guy gets screwed.

Jamie Dimon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As head of JPMorgan Chase, Dimon oversaw the transfer of $25 billion in funds from the U.S. Treasury Department to the bank on October 28, 2008, under the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP).

Dimon donates primarily to the Democratic Party.

Joe you hate big banks, but big banks are contributing to the diaper wearing candidate who has a vagina. Your interests don't matter , but Dimon's sure does. Maybe if you contributed more to the Clinton Crime Foundation, your voice might be heard.

Poor people buying houses did not cause the meltdown. However let's look for a moment at the practice of redlining. It's where banks just draw a line around poor neighborhoods and refuse to lend there even if the applicant meets all other requirements. I take it you think this kind of thing is just fine.

No it isn't the problem of poor people buying homes that caused the meltdown, it was the problem of poor people who couldn't afford the subprime mortgage after 5 years. When you come into a house with nothing down and very low interest rates, eventually the cost of that house soon will go up, and up it did, and those people just walked away since they didn't have any skin in the game. Simple math is all that was needed, which is why liberals are pushing Common Core. Making more stupid people, see my avatar below.

 

[Wyatt earp]

We have seen Bernie Sanders almost take the thrown from Hillary Clinton. Except for the Super Delegates, he had the most votes. So what is so appealing about Socialism/Communism/Liberalism. Even Whoopi Goldberg, who has made millions of dollars from a Capitalist Society, says "that Communism works on paper, but, when Humans get placed in Charge, then it's nuts. So why do you all want Socialism?

The ignorance common to most on the right is as much a problem as conservatives' propensity for lying.

 

[occupied]

It was Barnie Frank, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd, once again , who got US fucked in 2008.

No, it was big greedy banks.

I'm sorry I have to keep explaining this to you, but Barnie Frank wasn't the guy who took bad mortgages and sold them off as investments by lying about their value.

That was your boys at the big banks.

Barack Obama Lashes Out at Banks For Risky Mortgages in Weekly Address ...Forgets to Mention His Lawsuit Forced Banks to Ease Lending Practices

But Obama forgot to mention that he was the one who sued banks to force them to make loans to families who couldn’t afford them.
In 1994, Barack Obama was one of the plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit, alleging that Citibank had engaged in practices that discriminated against minorities. The lawsuit forced the bank to ease its lending practices.

These are unintended consequences when liberals get involved. They say they are FOR THE PEOPLE, but in the long run, the liberal elite bank owners, get the profits, and the little guy gets screwed.

Jamie Dimon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As head of JPMorgan Chase, Dimon oversaw the transfer of $25 billion in funds from the U.S. Treasury Department to the bank on October 28, 2008, under the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP).

Dimon donates primarily to the Democratic Party.

Joe you hate big banks, but big banks are contributing to the diaper wearing candidate who has a vagina. Your interests don't matter , but Dimon's sure does. Maybe if you contributed more to the Clinton Crime Foundation, your voice might be heard.

Poor people buying houses did not cause the meltdown. However let's look for a moment at the practice of redlining. It's where banks just draw a line around poor neighborhoods and refuse to lend there even if the applicant meets all other requirements. I take it you think this kind of thing is just fine.

No it isn't the problem of poor people buying homes that caused the meltdown, it was the problem of poor people who couldn't afford the subprime mortgage after 5 years. When you come into a house with nothing down and very low interest rates, eventually the cost of that house soon will go up, and up it did, and those people just walked away since they didn't have any skin in the game. Simple math is all that was needed, which is why liberals are pushing Common Core. Making more stupid people, see my avatar below.

If the foreclosures in the subprime market were the whole problem the industry could have absorbed those loses just fine. What precipitated the crash was when the speculators walked away from their expensive 5 year mortgages on multiple properties and the AAA rated derivatives based on them turned out to be worthless.

Now let's return to redlining for a moment since you brought it up. The banks were sued repeatedly because no one could get a mortgage by any means in urban areas. The banks were forced to lend in these areas, not to loosen income requirements or anything else.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It was Barnie Frank, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd, once again , who got US fucked in 2008.

No, it was big greedy banks.

I'm sorry I have to keep explaining this to you, but Barnie Frank wasn't the guy who took bad mortgages and sold them off as investments by lying about their value.

That was your boys at the big banks.

Barack Obama Lashes Out at Banks For Risky Mortgages in Weekly Address ...Forgets to Mention His Lawsuit Forced Banks to Ease Lending Practices

But Obama forgot to mention that he was the one who sued banks to force them to make loans to families who couldn’t afford them.
In 1994, Barack Obama was one of the plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit, alleging that Citibank had engaged in practices that discriminated against minorities. The lawsuit forced the bank to ease its lending practices.

These are unintended consequences when liberals get involved. They say they are FOR THE PEOPLE, but in the long run, the liberal elite bank owners, get the profits, and the little guy gets screwed.

Jamie Dimon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As head of JPMorgan Chase, Dimon oversaw the transfer of $25 billion in funds from the U.S. Treasury Department to the bank on October 28, 2008, under the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP).

Dimon donates primarily to the Democratic Party.

Joe you hate big banks, but big banks are contributing to the diaper wearing candidate who has a vagina. Your interests don't matter , but Dimon's sure does. Maybe if you contributed more to the Clinton Crime Foundation, your voice might be heard.

Poor people buying houses did not cause the meltdown. However let's look for a moment at the practice of redlining. It's where banks just draw a line around poor neighborhoods and refuse to lend there even if the applicant meets all other requirements. I take it you think this kind of thing is just fine.

No it isn't the problem of poor people buying homes that caused the meltdown, it was the problem of poor people who couldn't afford the subprime mortgage after 5 years. When you come into a house with nothing down and very low interest rates, eventually the cost of that house soon will go up, and up it did, and those people just walked away since they didn't have any skin in the game. Simple math is all that was needed, which is why liberals are pushing Common Core. Making more stupid people, see my avatar below.

If the foreclosures in the subprime market were the whole problem the industry could have absorbed those loses just fine. What precipitated the crash was when the speculators walked away from their expensive 5 year mortgages on multiple properties and the AAA rated derivatives based on them turned out to be worthless.

Now let's return to redlining for a moment since you brought it up. The banks were sued repeatedly because no one could get a mortgage by any means in urban areas. The banks were forced to lend in these areas, not to loosen income requirements or anything else.

They couldn't get a mortgage because they couldn't afford them. Simple math once again, but in came the liberals, and that liberal compassion soon put people in a place they didn't belong. Liberal compassion ends up with unintended consequences that eventually will screw over a lot of people. Just look at the new healthcare law, unintended consequences?

 

[Conservative65]

It was Barnie Frank, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd, once again , who got US fucked in 2008.

No, it was big greedy banks.

I'm sorry I have to keep explaining this to you, but Barnie Frank wasn't the guy who took bad mortgages and sold them off as investments by lying about their value.

That was your boys at the big banks.

Barack Obama Lashes Out at Banks For Risky Mortgages in Weekly Address ...Forgets to Mention His Lawsuit Forced Banks to Ease Lending Practices

But Obama forgot to mention that he was the one who sued banks to force them to make loans to families who couldn’t afford them.
In 1994, Barack Obama was one of the plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit, alleging that Citibank had engaged in practices that discriminated against minorities. The lawsuit forced the bank to ease its lending practices.

These are unintended consequences when liberals get involved. They say they are FOR THE PEOPLE, but in the long run, the liberal elite bank owners, get the profits, and the little guy gets screwed.

Jamie Dimon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As head of JPMorgan Chase, Dimon oversaw the transfer of $25 billion in funds from the U.S. Treasury Department to the bank on October 28, 2008, under the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP).

Dimon donates primarily to the Democratic Party.

Joe you hate big banks, but big banks are contributing to the diaper wearing candidate who has a vagina. Your interests don't matter , but Dimon's sure does. Maybe if you contributed more to the Clinton Crime Foundation, your voice might be heard.

Poor people buying houses did not cause the meltdown. However let's look for a moment at the practice of redlining. It's where banks just draw a line around poor neighborhoods and refuse to lend there even if the applicant meets all other requirements. I take it you think this kind of thing is just fine.

Depends on what was done to the requirements. Lowering a standard in order that more people qualify isn't necessarily a good thing so as not to hurt someone's feelings by telling them no.

www.belief.com/columnists/reformedchicksblabbing/2009/02/a-school-bus-driver-wants-bail.html

 

[dblack]

The banks were forced to lend in these areas, not to loosen income requirements or anything else.

Well, except for the requirement that the property in question was in an area the bank deemed a safe investment.

 

[occupied]

No, it was big greedy banks.

I'm sorry I have to keep explaining this to you, but Barnie Frank wasn't the guy who took bad mortgages and sold them off as investments by lying about their value.

That was your boys at the big banks.

Barack Obama Lashes Out at Banks For Risky Mortgages in Weekly Address ...Forgets to Mention His Lawsuit Forced Banks to Ease Lending Practices

But Obama forgot to mention that he was the one who sued banks to force them to make loans to families who couldn’t afford them.
In 1994, Barack Obama was one of the plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit, alleging that Citibank had engaged in practices that discriminated against minorities. The lawsuit forced the bank to ease its lending practices.

These are unintended consequences when liberals get involved. They say they are FOR THE PEOPLE, but in the long run, the liberal elite bank owners, get the profits, and the little guy gets screwed.

Jamie Dimon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As head of JPMorgan Chase, Dimon oversaw the transfer of $25 billion in funds from the U.S. Treasury Department to the bank on October 28, 2008, under the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP).

Dimon donates primarily to the Democratic Party.

Joe you hate big banks, but big banks are contributing to the diaper wearing candidate who has a vagina. Your interests don't matter , but Dimon's sure does. Maybe if you contributed more to the Clinton Crime Foundation, your voice might be heard.

Poor people buying houses did not cause the meltdown. However let's look for a moment at the practice of redlining. It's where banks just draw a line around poor neighborhoods and refuse to lend there even if the applicant meets all other requirements. I take it you think this kind of thing is just fine.

No it isn't the problem of poor people buying homes that caused the meltdown, it was the problem of poor people who couldn't afford the subprime mortgage after 5 years. When you come into a house with nothing down and very low interest rates, eventually the cost of that house soon will go up, and up it did, and those people just walked away since they didn't have any skin in the game. Simple math is all that was needed, which is why liberals are pushing Common Core. Making more stupid people, see my avatar below.

If the foreclosures in the subprime market were the whole problem the industry could have absorbed those loses just fine. What precipitated the crash was when the speculators walked away from their expensive 5 year mortgages on multiple properties and the AAA rated derivatives based on them turned out to be worthless.

Now let's return to redlining for a moment since you brought it up. The banks were sued repeatedly because no one could get a mortgage by any means in urban areas. The banks were forced to lend in these areas, not to loosen income requirements or anything else.

They couldn't get a mortgage because they couldn't afford them. Simple math once again, but in came the liberals, and that liberal compassion soon put people in a place they didn't belong. Liberal compassion ends up with unintended consequences that eventually will screw over a lot of people. Just look at the new healthcare law, unintended consequences?

Focus on the shit you brought up. You blamed Obama for being one the plaintiffs in a lawsuit. The lawsuit was over a practice called redlining. The result of these lawsuits were that the banks could no longer simply draw a line on a map and refuse to do business there and still be allowed to do business in the states. No one said they had to lend to people who could not afford the mortgage, they said they could not use geography as the sole reason to deny a loan. now explain how this one requirement caused the entire mortgage meltdown and be specific.

 

[Conservative65]

No, it was big greedy banks.

I'm sorry I have to keep explaining this to you, but Barnie Frank wasn't the guy who took bad mortgages and sold them off as investments by lying about their value.

That was your boys at the big banks.

Barack Obama Lashes Out at Banks For Risky Mortgages in Weekly Address ...Forgets to Mention His Lawsuit Forced Banks to Ease Lending Practices

But Obama forgot to mention that he was the one who sued banks to force them to make loans to families who couldn’t afford them.
In 1994, Barack Obama was one of the plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit, alleging that Citibank had engaged in practices that discriminated against minorities. The lawsuit forced the bank to ease its lending practices.

These are unintended consequences when liberals get involved. They say they are FOR THE PEOPLE, but in the long run, the liberal elite bank owners, get the profits, and the little guy gets screwed.

Jamie Dimon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As head of JPMorgan Chase, Dimon oversaw the transfer of $25 billion in funds from the U.S. Treasury Department to the bank on October 28, 2008, under the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP).

Dimon donates primarily to the Democratic Party.

Joe you hate big banks, but big banks are contributing to the diaper wearing candidate who has a vagina. Your interests don't matter , but Dimon's sure does. Maybe if you contributed more to the Clinton Crime Foundation, your voice might be heard.

Poor people buying houses did not cause the meltdown. However let's look for a moment at the practice of redlining. It's where banks just draw a line around poor neighborhoods and refuse to lend there even if the applicant meets all other requirements. I take it you think this kind of thing is just fine.

No it isn't the problem of poor people buying homes that caused the meltdown, it was the problem of poor people who couldn't afford the subprime mortgage after 5 years. When you come into a house with nothing down and very low interest rates, eventually the cost of that house soon will go up, and up it did, and those people just walked away since they didn't have any skin in the game. Simple math is all that was needed, which is why liberals are pushing Common Core. Making more stupid people, see my avatar below.

If the foreclosures in the subprime market were the whole problem the industry could have absorbed those loses just fine. What precipitated the crash was when the speculators walked away from their expensive 5 year mortgages on multiple properties and the AAA rated derivatives based on them turned out to be worthless.

Now let's return to redlining for a moment since you brought it up. The banks were sued repeatedly because no one could get a mortgage by any means in urban areas. The banks were forced to lend in these areas, not to loosen income requirements or anything else.

They couldn't get a mortgage because they couldn't afford them. Simple math once again, but in came the liberals, and that liberal compassion soon put people in a place they didn't belong. Liberal compassion ends up with unintended consequences that eventually will screw over a lot of people. Just look at the new healthcare law, unintended consequences?

Liberals don't think someone WANTING something should be told no because it might hurt their feelings. They'll lower the standard in order to meet those WANTS then things like this happen:

www.beliefnet.com/columnists/reformedchicksbabbling/2009/02/a-school-bus-driver-wants-bail.html

 

[Conservative65]

The banks were forced to lend in these areas, not to loosen income requirements or anything else.

Well, except for the requirement that the property in question was in an area the bank deemed a safe investment.

Libs don't mind forcing investment when the money isn't theirs.

 

[occupied]

It was Barnie Frank, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd, once again , who got US fucked in 2008.

No, it was big greedy banks.

I'm sorry I have to keep explaining this to you, but Barnie Frank wasn't the guy who took bad mortgages and sold them off as investments by lying about their value.

That was your boys at the big banks.

Barack Obama Lashes Out at Banks For Risky Mortgages in Weekly Address ...Forgets to Mention His Lawsuit Forced Banks to Ease Lending Practices

But Obama forgot to mention that he was the one who sued banks to force them to make loans to families who couldn’t afford them.
In 1994, Barack Obama was one of the plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit, alleging that Citibank had engaged in practices that discriminated against minorities. The lawsuit forced the bank to ease its lending practices.

These are unintended consequences when liberals get involved. They say they are FOR THE PEOPLE, but in the long run, the liberal elite bank owners, get the profits, and the little guy gets screwed.

Jamie Dimon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As head of JPMorgan Chase, Dimon oversaw the transfer of $25 billion in funds from the U.S. Treasury Department to the bank on October 28, 2008, under the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP).

Dimon donates primarily to the Democratic Party.

Joe you hate big banks, but big banks are contributing to the diaper wearing candidate who has a vagina. Your interests don't matter , but Dimon's sure does. Maybe if you contributed more to the Clinton Crime Foundation, your voice might be heard.

Poor people buying houses did not cause the meltdown. However let's look for a moment at the practice of redlining. It's where banks just draw a line around poor neighborhoods and refuse to lend there even if the applicant meets all other requirements. I take it you think this kind of thing is just fine.

Depends on what was done to the requirements. Lowering a standard in order that more people qualify isn't necessarily a good thing so as not to hurt someone's feelings by telling them no.

www.belief.com/columnists/reformedchicksblabbing/2009/02/a-school-bus-driver-wants-bail.html

No lending standards were lowered by anyone in the government however the banks themselves lowered standards in order to sell a lot more mortgage bonds to meet the demand from a lot of investors.

 

[Two Thumbs]

All the best countries are mostly capitalist, all the best are nearly 100%.


No capitalist nation has ever failed, not one.

socialist list of failed nations is long and a bit horrific.

Where are the "nearly 100%" capitalist nations?

most capitalist countries - Google Search

look for yourself.

tired of; "that's a hack site" when I never heard of it before

The United States, Great Britain, Germany are all nations with healthy elements of socialism.

and massive debt

drop socialism and the debt drops and drops and no one dies or suffers, as is the myth

Let's tell Grandpa that he no longer should get his Social Security checks.

How many times have you been told that SS is not socialism? How many times has it been proven to you?

can you even recall all the times?

and yet you repeat the lie, years later.

 

[occupied]

The banks were forced to lend in these areas, not to loosen income requirements or anything else.

Well, except for the requirement that the property in question was in an area the bank deemed a safe investment.

The end of redlining had many beneficial effects to America's cities long before the mortgage crisis. Abandoned property got purchased by locals, the horrible old landlords lost their stranglehold on housing, things got cleaned up and people took more pride in their neighborhoods, some of which have since been transformed to upscale neighborhoods. since the great recession things slid back somewhat but before then it was considered by both parties to be a good thing that banks were finally funding investment in areas they had neglected for decades.

 

[frigidweirdo]

We have seen Bernie Sanders almost take the throne from Hillary Clinton. Except for the Super Delegates, he had the most votes. So what is so appealing about Socialism/Communism/Liberalism. Even Whoopi Goldberg, who has made millions of dollars from a Capitalist Society, says "that Communism works on paper, but, when Humans get placed in Charge, then it's nuts. So why do you all want Socialism?

I'm not a socialist, communist, whatever ist.

However Socialism can work for some things. Like health. In the US health is one of the biggest areas of corruption, it take up about 3% of US GDP alone. The British healthcare system would be a lot better if the Tories weren't trying to make it into the US system, claiming it's too expensive but then wanting a system that costs twice as much.

Most areas of business you need that competition, but when it comes to healthcare, competition seems to just add layers. Like health insurance. Why do you need to pay for health insurance, and then pay for the profits on top of this health insurance? You don't need to in the US.
The US system sees hospitals trying to keep you in hospital and give you too much care, in the UK they want you out of the hospital as quickly as possible. I've experienced hospitals in other countries (not US or UK) where you go, they demand you stay three weeks in a hospital bed because you need part of your finger sewing up. Or go to one hospital for a scan and be quoted 4 times more for the scan than at another hospital. It's crazy, but a socialized system with health works, and it's been proven to work, and is cheaper in the long run.

Prisons don't work well either. Too many problems when private companies take over. When it's in Louisiana and it's private prisons owned by the police, then the police are trying to get more people in prisons than there should be, they're essentially making sure those who leave prison will come back anyway, it's ridiculous.

Fire services don't work well when private, used to be the case in England back in the day.
Fire engines would turn up, see there was no plaque on the house and go home with the fire still blazing.