You have to be impressed with George Orwell

[BlindBoo]

I'm impressed with the Beatles. Well ahead of their time. Oh wait that's Animal Farm. Never mind.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

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Homage to Catalonia is George Orwell's personal account of his experiences and observations fighting for the POUM [Party of Marxist Unification] militia of the Republican army during the Spanish Civil War. The war was one of the defining events of his political outlook and a significant part of what led him to write in 1946, "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for Democratic Socialism, as I understand it."

Homage to Catalonia - Wikipedia

Even if you were right you're out of context. First off nobody is perfect & much has changed. Second you're ignoring the elephant in the room, which is Orwell wrote what would become PROGS which was the point of this thread.

Assuming Orwell had this economic/social structure down, what socialist democrat countries are you recommending anyhow?

And how come you're trying to differentiate Democratic Socialism & today's PROGS in light of totalities? How did you conclude today's PROGS don't practice totalitarianism considering what they do and often say conflicts with your feelings?

I am right and my remarks are not out of context.

But you are correct times have changed. Orwell was a British citizen who watched the “great” British Empire slowly collapsing, as we are watching a slower and possibly more catastrophic relative decline of the American empire.

Orwell saw up close the threat of British fascists like “Sir” Oswald Mosley. Mosley was infinitely more intelligent and a far more competent political operative than Donald Trump. He went from pampered personal privilege as a member of the British aristocracy to activism at the top levels of the Labour Party, before finally breaking with Labour entirely to move step by step to embrace ... fascism.

Trump also spent a lifetime supporting Democrats before joining Republicans and seeking to build his own demagogic cult. Interestingly, both advocated making their countries “great again” through protectionism:

“[Mosley] called for high tariffs to protect British industries from international finance, for state nationalization of main industries and for a programme of public works to solve unemployment.” Soon he was calling for copying the policies Mussolini and Hitler.

My point is that George Orwell rejected all the demagogy and sloganeering of Mosley, who could sound very convincing as a nationalist, who blamed “international finance and Jewry” rather than then almost non-existent British “blacks” for all England’s problems.

I’m sorry but I have no interest in discussing with you all of the different issues you ask me about. That would take a long time and is not really relevant to this discussion of Orwell. You can read my many public comments if interested. I just wanted to correct specific self-serving partisan errors in your — in my opinion — very mistaken categorization of George Orwell.

By the way, I do agree that Orwell would have many criticisms of today’s “double-speak” coming from Democratic Party leaders. He was mostly a Labour Party or Independent Labour Party supporter in the context of British politics then, but he was willing to criticize them whenever he felt they were wrong. Of course he was especially critical of Stalin at the same time.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

I just wish he would gave stuck to writing fiction,, this Nostradamus stuff it kicking our ass,,

Don't shoot the messenger.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

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Homage to Catalonia is George Orwell's personal account of his experiences and observations fighting for the POUM [Party of Marxist Unification] militia of the Republican army during the Spanish Civil War. The war was one of the defining events of his political outlook and a significant part of what led him to write in 1946, "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for Democratic Socialism, as I understand it."

Homage to Catalonia - Wikipedia

Even if you were right you're out of context. First off nobody is perfect & much has changed. Second you're ignoring the elephant in the room, which is Orwell wrote what would become PROGS which was the point of this thread.

Assuming Orwell had this economic/social structure down, what socialist democrat countries are you recommending anyhow?

And how come you're trying to differentiate Democratic Socialism & today's PROGS in light of totalities? How did you conclude today's PROGS don't practice totalitarianism considering what they do and often say conflicts with your feelings?

I am right and my remarks are not out of context.

But you are correct times have changed. Orwell was a British citizen who watched the “great” British Empire slowly collapsing, as we are watching a slower and possibly more catastrophic relative decline of the American empire.

Orwell saw up close the threat of British fascists like “Sir” Oswald Mosley. Mosley was infinitely more intelligent and a far more competent political operative than Donald Trump. He went from pampered personal privilege as a member of the British aristocracy to activism at the top levels of the Labour Party, before finally breaking with Labour entirely to move step by step to embrace ... fascism.

Trump also spent a lifetime supporting Democrats before joining Republicans and seeking to build his own demagogic cult. Interestingly, both advocated making their countries “great again” through protectionism:

“[Mosley] called for high tariffs to protect British industries from international finance, for state nationalization of main industries and for a programme of public works to solve unemployment.” Soon he was calling for copying the policies Mussolini and Hitler.

My point is that George Orwell rejected all the demagogy and sloganeering of Mosley, who could sound very convincing as a nationalist, who blamed “international finance and Jewry” rather than then almost non-existent British “blacks” for all England’s problems.

I’m sorry but I have no interest in discussing with you all of the different issues you ask me about. That would take a long time and is not really relevant to this discussion of Orwell. You can read my many public comments if interested. I just wanted to correct specific self-serving partisan errors in your — in my opinion — very mistaken categorization of George Orwell.

By the way, I do agree that Orwell would have many criticisms of today’s “double-speak” coming from Democratic Party leaders. He was mostly a Labour Party or Independent Labour Party supporter in the context of British politics then, but he was willing to criticize them whenever he felt they were wrong. Of course he was especially critical of Stalin at the same time.

I stopped reading @ Trump is incompetent.

 

[Cecilie1200]

View attachment 442756

Homage to Catalonia is George Orwell's personal account of his experiences and observations fighting for the POUM [Party of Marxist Unification] militia of the Republican army during the Spanish Civil War. The war was one of the defining events of his political outlook and a significant part of what led him to write in 1946, "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for Democratic Socialism, as I understand it."

Homage to Catalonia - Wikipedia

Even if you were right you're out of context. First off nobody is perfect & much has changed. Second you're ignoring the elephant in the room, which is Orwell wrote what would become PROGS which was the point of this thread.

Assuming Orwell had this economic/social structure down, what socialist democrat countries are you recommending anyhow?

And how come you're trying to differentiate Democratic Socialism & today's PROGS in light of totalities? How did you conclude today's PROGS don't practice totalitarianism considering what they do and often say conflicts with your feelings?

I am right and my remarks are not out of context.

But you are correct times have changed. Orwell was a British citizen who watched the “great” British Empire slowly collapsing, as we are watching a slower and possibly more catastrophic relative decline of the American empire.

Orwell saw up close the threat of British fascists like “Sir” Oswald Mosley. Mosley was infinitely more intelligent and a far more competent political operative than Donald Trump. He went from pampered personal privilege as a member of the British aristocracy to activism at the top levels of the Labour Party, before finally breaking with Labour entirely to move step by step to embrace ... fascism.

Trump also spent a lifetime supporting Democrats before joining Republicans and seeking to build his own demagogic cult. Interestingly, both advocated making their countries “great again” through protectionism:

“[Mosley] called for high tariffs to protect British industries from international finance, for state nationalization of main industries and for a programme of public works to solve unemployment.” Soon he was calling for copying the policies Mussolini and Hitler.

My point is that George Orwell rejected all the demagogy and sloganeering of Mosley, who could sound very convincing as a nationalist, who blamed “international finance and Jewry” rather than then almost non-existent British “blacks” for all England’s problems.

I’m sorry but I have no interest in discussing with you all of the different issues you ask me about. That would take a long time and is not really relevant to this discussion of Orwell. You can read my many public comments if interested. I just wanted to correct specific self-serving partisan errors in your — in my opinion — very mistaken categorization of George Orwell.

By the way, I do agree that Orwell would have many criticisms of today’s “double-speak” coming from Democratic Party leaders. He was mostly a Labour Party or Independent Labour Party supporter in the context of British politics then, but he was willing to criticize them whenever he felt they were wrong. Of course he was especially critical of Stalin at the same time.

I stopped reading @ Trump is incompetent.

I usually stop reading at "Tom Paine".

 

[boilermaker55]

It seems most, if not all, retRUMPlicans have also bastardized the true meanings of Orwell's 1984.
"While Orwell opposed censorship, he abhorred the corruption of language by political leaders intent on masking dubious or amoral actions behind either the anodyne language of bureaucracy and legalese, or the emotional language of patriotism. One of Orwell's deepest laments was that, during his lifetime, "political speech and writing" had become "largely the defense of the indefensible." Most likely Orwell would not have supported either the de-platforming of Trump, or the cancelation of Hawley's book contract. But he likely would also have despised both men for their cynical abuse of the English language. "

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

 

[boilermaker55]

"The term Orwellian, used correctly, is a shorthand for the perversion of language to mask truth and defend the indefensible, the most concise example of which is the government's mantra in Orwell's "1984": "War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." "1984," in addition to being an indictment of totalitarianism, is also an indictment of the displacement of plain truth with political doublespeak. It's a warning of the societal danger of rewriting insurrection, sedition and violence as patriotism and protest."
"
Yet, while Orwell opposed censorship, he abhorred the corruption of language by political leaders intent on masking dubious or amoral actions behind either the anodyne language of bureaucracy and legalese, or the emotional language of patriotism. "

View attachment 442756

Homage to Catalonia is George Orwell's personal account of his experiences and observations fighting for the POUM [Party of Marxist Unification] militia of the Republican army during the Spanish Civil War. The war was one of the defining events of his political outlook and a significant part of what led him to write in 1946, "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for Democratic Socialism, as I understand it."

Homage to Catalonia - Wikipedia

 

[dblack]

Any Orwellian manifestations will be the sole purview of Republicans, conservatives, and others on the authoritarian right.

Them's some industrial strength blinders you're wearing there, C.

 

[g5000]

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

The greatest comparison of Orwell to modern times is, "We've always been at war with eastasia."

I've seen this phenomenon amongst Trumpsters countless times.

 

[22lcidw]

It seems most, if not all, retRUMPlicans have also bastardized the true meanings of Orwell's 1984.
"While Orwell opposed censorship, he abhorred the corruption of language by political leaders intent on masking dubious or amoral actions behind either the anodyne language of bureaucracy and legalese, or the emotional language of patriotism. One of Orwell's deepest laments was that, during his lifetime, "political speech and writing" had become "largely the defense of the indefensible." Most likely Orwell would not have supported either the de-platforming of Trump, or the cancelation of Hawley's book contract. But he likely would also have despised both men for their cynical abuse of the English language. "

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

Just not interfere...I do not understand it...

 

[dblack]

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

The greatest comparison of Orwell to modern times is, "We've always been at war with eastasia."

I've seen this phenomenon amongst Trumpsters countless times.

Absolutely. It goes on on both sides. I can't count the number of times I've seen complete flip-flops on issues - usually both sides at the same time. And no one bats an eye - "We've always been at war with eastasia".

 

[Cecilie1200]

It seems most, if not all, retRUMPlicans have also bastardized the true meanings of Orwell's 1984.
"While Orwell opposed censorship, he abhorred the corruption of language by political leaders intent on masking dubious or amoral actions behind either the anodyne language of bureaucracy and legalese, or the emotional language of patriotism. One of Orwell's deepest laments was that, during his lifetime, "political speech and writing" had become "largely the defense of the indefensible." Most likely Orwell would not have supported either the de-platforming of Trump, or the cancelation of Hawley's book contract. But he likely would also have despised both men for their cynical abuse of the English language. "

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

It seems you're really reaching to convince yourself that you're not the evil-supporting slime you are.

 

[boilermaker55]

You are exactly the type Orwell was talking about when he made his assessment of individuals and their misuse of the English language.
Thank you for proving the point so prolifically.

It seems most, if not all, retRUMPlicans have also bastardized the true meanings of Orwell's 1984.
"While Orwell opposed censorship, he abhorred the corruption of language by political leaders intent on masking dubious or amoral actions behind either the anodyne language of bureaucracy and legalese, or the emotional language of patriotism. One of Orwell's deepest laments was that, during his lifetime, "political speech and writing" had become "largely the defense of the indefensible." Most likely Orwell would not have supported either the de-platforming of Trump, or the cancelation of Hawley's book contract. But he likely would also have despised both men for their cynical abuse of the English language. "

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

It seems you're really reaching to convince yourself that you're not the evil-supporting slime you are.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You are exactly the type Orwell was talking about when he made his assessment of individuals and their misuse of the English language.
Thank you for proving the point so prolifically.

It seems most, if not all, retRUMPlicans have also bastardized the true meanings of Orwell's 1984.
"While Orwell opposed censorship, he abhorred the corruption of language by political leaders intent on masking dubious or amoral actions behind either the anodyne language of bureaucracy and legalese, or the emotional language of patriotism. One of Orwell's deepest laments was that, during his lifetime, "political speech and writing" had become "largely the defense of the indefensible." Most likely Orwell would not have supported either the de-platforming of Trump, or the cancelation of Hawley's book contract. But he likely would also have despised both men for their cynical abuse of the English language. "

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

It seems you're really reaching to convince yourself that you're not the evil-supporting slime you are.

And you are quite typical of leftists preening undeserved egos.

G'head, withhold your approval from me again. Maybe this time, you'll matter.

 

[Richard-H]

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

You do realize that George Orwell served and fought in a socialist militia (Workers' Party of Marxist Unification) during the Spanish Civil War, right?

Homage to Catalonia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

The greatest comparison of Orwell to modern times is, "We've always been at war with eastasia."

I've seen this phenomenon amongst Trumpsters countless times.

By example?

 

[boilermaker55]

I see you cannot refute anything, just offer your low-life comments
Carry on loser!

You are exactly the type Orwell was talking about when he made his assessment of individuals and their misuse of the English language.
Thank you for proving the point so prolifically.

It seems most, if not all, retRUMPlicans have also bastardized the true meanings of Orwell's 1984.
"While Orwell opposed censorship, he abhorred the corruption of language by political leaders intent on masking dubious or amoral actions behind either the anodyne language of bureaucracy and legalese, or the emotional language of patriotism. One of Orwell's deepest laments was that, during his lifetime, "political speech and writing" had become "largely the defense of the indefensible." Most likely Orwell would not have supported either the de-platforming of Trump, or the cancelation of Hawley's book contract. But he likely would also have despised both men for their cynical abuse of the English language. "

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

It seems you're really reaching to convince yourself that you're not the evil-supporting slime you are.

And you are quite typical of leftists preening undeserved egos.

G'head, withhold your approval from me again. Maybe this time, you'll matter.

 

[Crepitus]

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

A similar backdrop to our current times is the movie "Designated Survivor" out now on Netflix for those of you who haven't seen it-worth a watch. It was released in 2016. About three episodes in, you'll see the comparisons to what's been happening with the Dem agenda playing out...almost a play by play. Incredible stuff- make sure to check it out.

At least we're finally finished with "idiocracy".

For now.

 

[Crepitus]

Any Orwellian manifestations will be the sole purview of Republicans, conservatives, and others on the authoritarian right.

Indeed, Trump was as Orwellian as it can get.

I am Batman

What a coincidence! Me too!

 

[Agit8r]

In our modern world, folks carry their telescreens around with them.

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