You have to be impressed with George Orwell

[Crepitus]

Even if you were right you're out of context

He is right and nothing he said was out of context. I've given up pointing out how badly the RWNJ crowd misinterprets 1984 and animal farm, it nice to see someone else do it.

 

[Crepitus]

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Homage to Catalonia is George Orwell's personal account of his experiences and observations fighting for the POUM [Party of Marxist Unification] militia of the Republican army during the Spanish Civil War. The war was one of the defining events of his political outlook and a significant part of what led him to write in 1946, "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for Democratic Socialism, as I understand it."

Homage to Catalonia - Wikipedia

Even if you were right you're out of context. First off nobody is perfect & much has changed. Second you're ignoring the elephant in the room, which is Orwell wrote what would become PROGS which was the point of this thread.

Assuming Orwell had this economic/social structure down, what socialist democrat countries are you recommending anyhow?

And how come you're trying to differentiate Democratic Socialism & today's PROGS in light of totalities? How did you conclude today's PROGS don't practice totalitarianism considering what they do and often say conflicts with your feelings?

I am right and my remarks are not out of context.

But you are correct times have changed. Orwell was a British citizen who watched the “great” British Empire slowly collapsing, as we are watching a slower and possibly more catastrophic relative decline of the American empire.

Orwell saw up close the threat of British fascists like “Sir” Oswald Mosley. Mosley was infinitely more intelligent and a far more competent political operative than Donald Trump. He went from pampered personal privilege as a member of the British aristocracy to activism at the top levels of the Labour Party, before finally breaking with Labour entirely to move step by step to embrace ... fascism.

Trump also spent a lifetime supporting Democrats before joining Republicans and seeking to build his own demagogic cult. Interestingly, both advocated making their countries “great again” through protectionism:

“[Mosley] called for high tariffs to protect British industries from international finance, for state nationalization of main industries and for a programme of public works to solve unemployment.” Soon he was calling for copying the policies Mussolini and Hitler.

My point is that George Orwell rejected all the demagogy and sloganeering of Mosley, who could sound very convincing as a nationalist, who blamed “international finance and Jewry” rather than then almost non-existent British “blacks” for all England’s problems.

I’m sorry but I have no interest in discussing with you all of the different issues you ask me about. That would take a long time and is not really relevant to this discussion of Orwell. You can read my many public comments if interested. I just wanted to correct specific self-serving partisan errors in your — in my opinion — very mistaken categorization of George Orwell.

By the way, I do agree that Orwell would have many criticisms of today’s “double-speak” coming from Democratic Party leaders. He was mostly a Labour Party or Independent Labour Party supporter in the context of British politics then, but he was willing to criticize them whenever he felt they were wrong. Of course he was especially critical of Stalin at the same time.

I stopped reading @ Trump is incompetent.

Truth can be hard to stomach sometimes.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I see you cannot refute anything, just offer your low-life comments
Carry on loser!

You are exactly the type Orwell was talking about when he made his assessment of individuals and their misuse of the English language.
Thank you for proving the point so prolifically.

It seems most, if not all, retRUMPlicans have also bastardized the true meanings of Orwell's 1984.
"While Orwell opposed censorship, he abhorred the corruption of language by political leaders intent on masking dubious or amoral actions behind either the anodyne language of bureaucracy and legalese, or the emotional language of patriotism. One of Orwell's deepest laments was that, during his lifetime, "political speech and writing" had become "largely the defense of the indefensible." Most likely Orwell would not have supported either the de-platforming of Trump, or the cancelation of Hawley's book contract. But he likely would also have despised both men for their cynical abuse of the English language. "

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

It seems you're really reaching to convince yourself that you're not the evil-supporting slime you are.

And you are quite typical of leftists preening undeserved egos.

G'head, withhold your approval from me again. Maybe this time, you'll matter.

What is this great, incisive point that you hallucinate has been made that I'm supposed to refute?

 

[boilermaker55]

See, I rest my case.
Stupidity is your guide!

I see you cannot refute anything, just offer your low-life comments
Carry on loser!

You are exactly the type Orwell was talking about when he made his assessment of individuals and their misuse of the English language.
Thank you for proving the point so prolifically.

It seems most, if not all, retRUMPlicans have also bastardized the true meanings of Orwell's 1984.
"While Orwell opposed censorship, he abhorred the corruption of language by political leaders intent on masking dubious or amoral actions behind either the anodyne language of bureaucracy and legalese, or the emotional language of patriotism. One of Orwell's deepest laments was that, during his lifetime, "political speech and writing" had become "largely the defense of the indefensible." Most likely Orwell would not have supported either the de-platforming of Trump, or the cancelation of Hawley's book contract. But he likely would also have despised both men for their cynical abuse of the English language. "

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

It seems you're really reaching to convince yourself that you're not the evil-supporting slime you are.

And you are quite typical of leftists preening undeserved egos.

G'head, withhold your approval from me again. Maybe this time, you'll matter.

What is this great, incisive point that you hallucinate has been made that I'm supposed to refute?

 

[Cecilie1200]

See, I rest my case.
Stupidity is your guide!

I see you cannot refute anything, just offer your low-life comments
Carry on loser!

You are exactly the type Orwell was talking about when he made his assessment of individuals and their misuse of the English language.
Thank you for proving the point so prolifically.

It seems most, if not all, retRUMPlicans have also bastardized the true meanings of Orwell's 1984.
"While Orwell opposed censorship, he abhorred the corruption of language by political leaders intent on masking dubious or amoral actions behind either the anodyne language of bureaucracy and legalese, or the emotional language of patriotism. One of Orwell's deepest laments was that, during his lifetime, "political speech and writing" had become "largely the defense of the indefensible." Most likely Orwell would not have supported either the de-platforming of Trump, or the cancelation of Hawley's book contract. But he likely would also have despised both men for their cynical abuse of the English language. "

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

It seems you're really reaching to convince yourself that you're not the evil-supporting slime you are.

And you are quite typical of leftists preening undeserved egos.

G'head, withhold your approval from me again. Maybe this time, you'll matter.

What is this great, incisive point that you hallucinate has been made that I'm supposed to refute?

In other words, you don't have a point.

Call me when you have something other than demands that we accept your drug-induced self-image.

 

[ClaireH]

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

A similar backdrop to our current times is the movie "Designated Survivor" out now on Netflix for those of you who haven't seen it-worth a watch. It was released in 2016. About three episodes in, you'll see the comparisons to what's been happening with the Dem agenda playing out...almost a play by play. Incredible stuff- make sure to check it out.

At least we're finally finished with "idiocracy".

For now.

In my mind, Americans in 2021 should not be resorting to “at least” in any fashion, especially when it comes to our political choices for presidential candidates. Your statement supports the notion that we Americans settle for the limited standards that have been in place, set by the upper crust to make sure that an above average citizen, with domestic and international experience, well versed in policy and foreign relations, and maintains ethical conduct, can never even consider running for president. The primary requirement? Money. This was never the intentions of our founding fathers and needs to change asap! The continued negligence of true reforms for campaign finance laws is one major issue. There are other reasons that it is an absolute requirement to be a multi-millionaire to even consider running for president or having access to millionaire donors. It will soon be a requirement to have access to -at least- (there’s that phrase again but different meaning here) a billion -and I cannot believe how soon that’s coming if laws aren’t modified for the good of the country.

 

[Staidhup]

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

He nailed it to a T! Hold on its going to get ugly.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

A similar backdrop to our current times is the movie "Designated Survivor" out now on Netflix for those of you who haven't seen it-worth a watch. It was released in 2016. About three episodes in, you'll see the comparisons to what's been happening with the Dem agenda playing out...almost a play by play. Incredible stuff- make sure to check it out.

At least we're finally finished with "idiocracy".

For now.

In my mind, Americans in 2021 should not be resorting to “at least” in any fashion, especially when it comes to our political choices for presidential candidates. Your statement supports the notion that we Americans settle for the limited standards that have been in place, set by the upper crust to make sure that an above average citizen, with domestic and international experience, well versed in policy and foreign relations, and maintains ethical conduct, can never even consider running for president. The primary requirement? Money. This was never the intentions of our founding fathers and needs to change asap! The continued negligence of true reforms for campaign finance laws is one major issue. There are other reasons that it is an absolute requirement to be a multi-millionaire to even consider running for president or having access to millionaire donors. It will soon be a requirement to have access to -at least- (there’s that phrase again but different meaning here) a billion -and I cannot believe how soon that’s coming if laws aren’t modified for the good of the country.

Agree. It's only getting worse. The medias dictate how people are supposed to think STEER LEFT & they revise the meaning for govt. corruption STEER LEFT, and now the left changes the rules as they see fit to benefit themselves only. What a mess.

 

[ClaireH]

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

A similar backdrop to our current times is the movie "Designated Survivor" out now on Netflix for those of you who haven't seen it-worth a watch. It was released in 2016. About three episodes in, you'll see the comparisons to what's been happening with the Dem agenda playing out...almost a play by play. Incredible stuff- make sure to check it out.

At least we're finally finished with "idiocracy".

For now.

In my mind, Americans in 2021 should not be resorting to “at least” in any fashion, especially when it comes to our political choices for presidential candidates. Your statement supports the notion that we Americans settle for the limited standards that have been in place, set by the upper crust to make sure that an above average citizen, with domestic and international experience, well versed in policy and foreign relations, and maintains ethical conduct, can never even consider running for president. The primary requirement? Money. This was never the intentions of our founding fathers and needs to change asap! The continued negligence of true reforms for campaign finance laws is one major issue. There are other reasons that it is an absolute requirement to be a multi-millionaire to even consider running for president or having access to millionaire donors. It will soon be a requirement to have access to -at least- (there’s that phrase again but different meaning here) a billion -and I cannot believe how soon that’s coming if laws aren’t modified for the good of the country.

Agree. It's only getting worse. The medias dictate how people are supposed to think STEER LEFT & they revise the meaning for govt. corruption STEER LEFT, and now the left changes the rules as they see fit to benefit themselves only. What a mess.

No truer statement has ever been made beyond the following: it is not by happenstance that US political parties focus all attention on each other. Both parties are “in the cart” and neither party is really “driving”. The political process divide serves our government and reps by keeping the attention off of each of those entities, regardless of which party is in charge.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

A similar backdrop to our current times is the movie "Designated Survivor" out now on Netflix for those of you who haven't seen it-worth a watch. It was released in 2016. About three episodes in, you'll see the comparisons to what's been happening with the Dem agenda playing out...almost a play by play. Incredible stuff- make sure to check it out.

At least we're finally finished with "idiocracy".

For now.

In my mind, Americans in 2021 should not be resorting to “at least” in any fashion, especially when it comes to our political choices for presidential candidates. Your statement supports the notion that we Americans settle for the limited standards that have been in place, set by the upper crust to make sure that an above average citizen, with domestic and international experience, well versed in policy and foreign relations, and maintains ethical conduct, can never even consider running for president. The primary requirement? Money. This was never the intentions of our founding fathers and needs to change asap! The continued negligence of true reforms for campaign finance laws is one major issue. There are other reasons that it is an absolute requirement to be a multi-millionaire to even consider running for president or having access to millionaire donors. It will soon be a requirement to have access to -at least- (there’s that phrase again but different meaning here) a billion -and I cannot believe how soon that’s coming if laws aren’t modified for the good of the country.

Agree. It's only getting worse. The medias dictate how people are supposed to think STEER LEFT & they revise the meaning for govt. corruption STEER LEFT, and now the left changes the rules as they see fit to benefit themselves only. What a mess.

No truer statement has ever been made beyond the following: it is not by happenstance that US political parties focus all attention on each other. Both parties are “in the cart” and neither party is really “driving”. The political process divide serves our government and reps by keeping the attention off of each of those entities, regardless of which party is in charge.

I've felt that way since Bush Jr. That said, I believe Trump was above most of it, which is EXACTLY why the assault on his tenure.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

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Homage to Catalonia is George Orwell's personal account of his experiences and observations fighting for the POUM [Party of Marxist Unification] militia of the Republican army during the Spanish Civil War. The war was one of the defining events of his political outlook and a significant part of what led him to write in 1946, "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for Democratic Socialism, as I understand it."

Homage to Catalonia - Wikipedia

Even if you were right you're out of context. First off nobody is perfect & much has changed. Second you're ignoring the elephant in the room, which is Orwell wrote what would become PROGS which was the point of this thread.

Assuming Orwell had this economic/social structure down, what socialist democrat countries are you recommending anyhow?

And how come you're trying to differentiate Democratic Socialism & today's PROGS in light of totalities? How did you conclude today's PROGS don't practice totalitarianism considering what they do and often say conflicts with your feelings?

I am right and my remarks are not out of context.

But you are correct times have changed. Orwell was a British citizen who watched the “great” British Empire slowly collapsing, as we are watching a slower and possibly more catastrophic relative decline of the American empire.

Orwell saw up close the threat of British fascists like “Sir” Oswald Mosley. Mosley was infinitely more intelligent and a far more competent political operative than Donald Trump. He went from pampered personal privilege as a member of the British aristocracy to activism at the top levels of the Labour Party, before finally breaking with Labour entirely to move step by step to embrace ... fascism.

Trump also spent a lifetime supporting Democrats before joining Republicans and seeking to build his own demagogic cult. Interestingly, both advocated making their countries “great again” through protectionism:

“[Mosley] called for high tariffs to protect British industries from international finance, for state nationalization of main industries and for a programme of public works to solve unemployment.” Soon he was calling for copying the policies Mussolini and Hitler.

My point is that George Orwell rejected all the demagogy and sloganeering of Mosley, who could sound very convincing as a nationalist, who blamed “international finance and Jewry” rather than then almost non-existent British “blacks” for all England’s problems.

I’m sorry but I have no interest in discussing with you all of the different issues you ask me about. That would take a long time and is not really relevant to this discussion of Orwell. You can read my many public comments if interested. I just wanted to correct specific self-serving partisan errors in your — in my opinion — very mistaken categorization of George Orwell.

By the way, I do agree that Orwell would have many criticisms of today’s “double-speak” coming from Democratic Party leaders. He was mostly a Labour Party or Independent Labour Party supporter in the context of British politics then, but he was willing to criticize them whenever he felt they were wrong. Of course he was especially critical of Stalin at the same time.

I stopped reading @ Trump is incompetent.

I usually stop reading at "Tom Paine".

They can run but they can’t hide. I’ve shown both Cecilie1200 and WTH_Progs? lie about George Orwell’s contributions, history and legacy.

Rather than simply admit Orwell was an anti-fascist and democratic socialist, rather than debate intelligently what light that may throw on American politics today, they stick their heads in the ground. Let all those who get their best ideas from journals like the self-admittedly lying AmericanThinker beware. Using George Orwell to make a case for brain-dead authoritarian rightwing populism will not go unchallenged.

Liberal Democrats — now in power — can also lie and use “newspeak” in countless ways to hide reality, domestic and foreign. Looks like they are already embracing Mike Pompeo’s new demagogy and “moral indignation” at China’s “cultural” genocide against the unfortunate Uighurs in Xinjiang — which may soon be shortened by the pundits to just plain old genocide — to rev up the trade and Cold War with China into something even more dangerous.

I think dblack hit the nail on the head when he said:

“Absolutely. It goes on on both sides. I can't count the number of times I've seen complete flip-flops on issues - usually both sides at the same time. And no one bats an eye - "We've always been at war with eastasia".

 

[boilermaker55]

No, the point is there, it was my mistake to believe someone of your limited intelligence would
be able to understand anything above the adjectives your dear leader used to use with no context.
LAUGHING RIGHT AT YOU!

See, I rest my case.
Stupidity is your guide!

I see you cannot refute anything, just offer your low-life comments
Carry on loser!

You are exactly the type Orwell was talking about when he made his assessment of individuals and their misuse of the English language.
Thank you for proving the point so prolifically.

It seems most, if not all, retRUMPlicans have also bastardized the true meanings of Orwell's 1984.
"While Orwell opposed censorship, he abhorred the corruption of language by political leaders intent on masking dubious or amoral actions behind either the anodyne language of bureaucracy and legalese, or the emotional language of patriotism. One of Orwell's deepest laments was that, during his lifetime, "political speech and writing" had become "largely the defense of the indefensible." Most likely Orwell would not have supported either the de-platforming of Trump, or the cancelation of Hawley's book contract. But he likely would also have despised both men for their cynical abuse of the English language. "

Turns out the year 1984 wasn't that far off, if at all. Gore invented the internet (cough!), which was actually invented in 1983, and the web 1989. Then Clinton with Republicans got into bed with China for short-term gains and their pockets, in the end creating a force for misinformation, automation and of course a lower standard of living so they (e.g. Gates, Bezos) can live like Kings. Proof positive the goal was to reduce middle class and small business, look this shit up, that's reality, and look WTF they did under COVID.

Flash forward 20 years into the web along with 24/7 "news" we became the age of misinformation and miss-accountability, opposite days and they dictate how the government is managed steer left. If PROGS are progressive in any manner it's they've dialed down this misinformation that nobody believes it or cares to think for themselves. The left as you might call them have proved over and over again there's no truth to their parroting, yet here we are, same thing over and over again, and this "impeachment" is a real beauty. You can't make it up yet they do all the time. Welcome our first puppet POTUS, the Banana Republic of USA. Our POTUS elect in the basement and it doesn't matter because he doesn't speak for himself nor say anything anyway. Unreported, Biden in hiding under full support our information sources.

It's just my opinion, but I think Orwell nailed this thing and we're living it. My only question is what are they up to next?

It seems you're really reaching to convince yourself that you're not the evil-supporting slime you are.

And you are quite typical of leftists preening undeserved egos.

G'head, withhold your approval from me again. Maybe this time, you'll matter.

What is this great, incisive point that you hallucinate has been made that I'm supposed to refute?

In other words, you don't have a point.

Call me when you have something other than demands that we accept your drug-induced self-image.