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Says YOU. I’m not so sure that a criminal went to Heaven.The thief on the cross next to Christ had nothing whatsoever to offer, no works, no baptism, no catechism, nothing. He walked into Paradise totally on the strength of his faith in Yeshua.
That's what Yeshua promised him.Says YOU. I’m not so sure that a criminal went to Heaven.
No, as long as they put their faith in Jesus' sacrifice to save them. That's the whole point, He made the sacrifice so we don't have to.Seems pretty bad to me that one can be a criminal, and all he has to do is believe and he goes to Paradise. According to that way of thinking, Hitler and Mussolini went also, as long as they believed Jesus was the son of Gd.
Rewards. God has rewards for those who serve Him. Salvation itself is a gift.So what’s the incentive to be a good, decent person?
What??!l you’re saying that Hitler could be in Heaven right now if he “believed” in Jesus? That’s sick.That's what Yeshua promised him.
No, as long as they put their faith in Jesus' sacrifice to save them. That's the whole point, He made the sacrifice so we don't have to.
Rewards. God has rewards for those who serve Him. Salvation itself is a gift.
Also, think of it this way. You meet and fall in love with a person. Your entire life changes because now you can only think of that person. Everything you do has their benefit in mind. Why? What incentive do you have to act like that?
I'm saying that if Christ's sacrifice wasn't enough for the worst of us, it's not worth much. Here's a clue for you, we are not the judge of others, and if you want that power, be prepared to be judged yourself. And again, you're ignoring the difference between belief and faith. The demons believe and tremble.What??!l you’re saying that Hitler could be in Heaven right now if he “believed” in Jesus? That’s sick.
It's effortless to have great faith when you move into an area of south Georgia that has no other people, especially Indians.this "faith" vs "works" sebate came to a head when luthor was opposing "indulgences."
juthor had a point, but modern protestants do take this to an extreme.
"jimmy carter is a man of great faith. but that does not stop his hammer." rampart
Carter's habitat for humanity in south Georgia, across the line in n. Florida, Timucua were practicing cannibalism.building homes is not a "work?" even for charity? we have a few problems that began in about the 11th chapter of genesis.....
Thanks for what you say, but as to this, it is likely the good thief went to Heaven. He was right next to Jesus on the Cross. How could he not?Says YOU. I’m not so sure that a criminal went to Heaven.
what?Carter's habitat for humanity in south Georgia, across the line in n. Florida, Timucua were practicing cannibalism.
The thief on the cross next to Christ had nothing whatsoever to offer, no works, no baptism, no catechism, nothing. He walked into Paradise totally on the strength of his faith in Yeshua.
Every person who follows Christ or even those who follow the Chosen Religion that came before Him.. the Jewish religionYou’re coming at this from YOUR beliefs. There is more than one religion in the world. And stop telling Jews they don’t have a relationship with Gd, or He with they. Quite arrogant on your part, amd rude.
Time and time again we see Christ healing and performing miracles based on the faith of those He helped, not just because he was there.The event of the thief on the cross who accepted Christ does not in any way mean that OTHERS can get to Heaven without
"works, baptism... [etc]"
the thief was in the Presence of Christ. If that doesn't save you, nothing does.
The presence of Christ is everywhere His people are, because He lives within them. His church extends far beyond any building, and especially what name is on the door.And where do we find the Presence of Christ today? Not many places, tht is true
But many Catholic Churches still have the Real Presence... and only Christ's True Church has that
Thank you. That previous poster implied that those of us who don’t believe in Jesus have no relationship with Gd, when I assure you we most certainly do.Every person who follows Christ or even those who follow the Chosen Religion that came before Him.. the Jewish religion
have a relationship with God.
But there are good relationships and not so good...
We see all that from Gd. His power is everywhere.Time and time again we see Christ healing and performing miracles based on the faith of those He helped, not just because he was there.
The presence of Christ is everywhere His people are, because He lives within them. His church extends far beyond any building, and especially what name is on the door.
I don't see much diffrerence myselfI'm saying that if Christ's sacrifice wasn't enough for the worst of us, it's not worth much. Here's a clue for you, we are not the judge of others, and if you want that power, be prepared to be judged yourself. And again, you're ignoring the difference between belief and faith. The demons believe and tremble.
Yes, but Jesus said that No one comes to the Father except through HIM. That is because He "clears away our sins" so that there is no "obstruction" between the Father and us.Thank you. That previous poster implied that those of us who don’t believe in Jesus have no relationship with Gd, when I assure you we most certainly do.
you wouldn't know it by me. The snark just at this Religion part of the forum is at times unbelievable... from alleged ChristiansThe presence of Christ is everywhere His people are, because He lives within them. His church extends far beyond any building, and especially what name is on the door.
Yes, but….who knows if he really said that, and what he meant by it if he did.Yes, but Jesus said that No one comes to the Father except through HIM. That is because He "clears away our sins" so that there is no "obstruction" between the Father and us.
Agree. What I find snarky are the alleged Christians insisting that THEIR way is the only way to Heaven (which would require Jews to abandon the key tenet of Judaism).you wouldn't know it by me. The snark just at this Religion part of the forum is at times unbelievable... from alleged Christians
I know. I have been in HIs Holy PresenceYes, but….who knows if he really said that, and what he meant by it if he did.
Agree. What I find snarky are the alleged Christians insisting that THEIR way is the only way to Heaven (which would require Jews to abandon the key tenet of Judaism).
