WTH?!? Most Racist Supreme Court Ruling Since Plessy — Greenlights Racial Profiling in ICE Raids

[Meathead]

American citizens fitting the ICE criteria have already been arrested and detained.

American citizens get arrested and detained everyday regardless of ICE "criteria".

 

[rightwinger]

And many left NAZI Germany, and came to America for that very reason.

Many business people and tourists from Hispanic countries are avoiding visiting the U.S. for this reason.
They are afraid of being scooped up in an ICE raid or being harassed

 

[postman]

The court's ruling didn't say that. Lower your skirt and untwist your panties.

Actually the court's shadow docket ruling said just that.

There was an order preventing ICE from detaining people based on the four criteria ICE was using.
The court put a stay on that order, allowing ICE to detain people based on the four criteria.

The order halted the raids, with Judge Frimpon saying the Trump administration cannot rely on factors like "apparent race or ethnicity" or "speaking Spanish" alone to stop or question individuals.

 

[postman]

Link?

Already given when I posted it.

 

[postman]

A large group boarded a ship and came to America. fdr told them to screw off. Many of them ended up back in Germany and eventually in concentration camps.

Trump would have done the same.

 

[postman]

American citizens get arrested and detained everyday regardless of ICE "criteria".

But only when there is probable cause.

 

[BackAgain]

Already given when I posted it.

In what thread? And what post number?

 

[Unkotare]

Trump would have done the same.

No, that's democrat shit. Always has been.

 

[rightwinger]

Actually the court's shadow docket ruling said just that.

There was an order preventing ICE from detaining people based on the four criteria ICE was using.
The court put a stay on that order, allowing ICE to detain people based on the four criteria.

The order halted the raids, with Judge Frimpon saying the Trump administration cannot rely on factors like "apparent race or ethnicity" or "speaking Spanish" alone to stop or question individuals.

The Supreme Court could have
-Provided guidance on what is allowable in terms of detaining people
-Allowed the lower court decision to stand and block Trump from using those factors until guidance was given by the lower court
-Allowed Trump to continue to detain people based on those factors until told otherwise

They chose to look the other way and allow Trump to continue his roundups

 

[postman]

Good to know. But of course, I never said otherwise and neither did the decision.

Reasonable suspicion does, however, authorize a police/civilian interaction to seek additional information.

For example: You must identify yourself in states with “stop and identify” laws Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial Dist. Court of Nev., Humboldt Cty., 542 U.S. 177 (2004)

Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial Dist. Court of Nev., Humboldt Cty., 542 U.S. 177 (2004)

Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial Dist. Court of Nev., Humboldt Cty.

supreme.justia.com

Interestingly, a refusal to comply in such a state can be grounds for an arrest. But that’s not at issue, here, since we aren’t discussing “arrests.”

California isn't one of those states.

 

[dudmuck]

Nope. That’s not what it means whatsoever.

Did you bother to read the concurring opinions? It seems unlikely.

brownshirts love to justify their brownshirtyness.

 

[Meathead]

But only when there is probable cause.

So what? Entering the US illegally is probable cause.

 

[Meathead]

The Supreme Court could have
-Provided guidance on what is allowable in terms of detaining people
-Allowed the lower court decision to stand and block Trump from using those factors until guidance was given by the lower court
-Allowed Trump to continue to detain people based on those factors until told otherwise

They chose to look the other way and allow Trump to continue his roundups

SCOTUS did the right thing. Those who entered illegally have to go.

Period

 

[BackAgain]

California isn't one of those states.

I know. And that’s why I already differentiated between states which have that law and those which don’t.

But it doesn’t matter because that rule only says that refusal can be grounds for an arrest in those states. It doesn’t deny law enforcement their ongoing authority to ask.

If, in the process, there arises additional information amounting to probable cause for an arrest, then the police may still make an arrest.

But taking an illegal alien in (under detention for removal proceedings) isn’t the same as an arrest, anyway, since it isn’t a criminal matter.

 

[postman]

The Supreme Court could have
-Provided guidance on what is allowable in terms of detaining people
-Allowed the lower court decision to stand and block Trump from using those factors until guidance was given by the lower court
-Allowed Trump to continue to detain people based on those factors until told otherwise

They chose to look the other way and allow Trump to continue his roundups

The court giving such direction would have to be within where they wanted the 4th amendment to stand. If they said ICE could use racial profiling, that would hold for other stops and detentions.

Which would allow the police to stop every white male, when they get a report of a white male committing a crime.

Which would outrage the MAGA base.

 

[BackAgain]

brownshirts love to justify their brownshirtyness.

Your ad hominem efforts are as plodding as you always are and equally unpersuasive.

Enforcing our laws is not even remotely the same as “brown shirt” behavior, you imbecile.

 

[postman]

SCOTUS did the right thing. Those who entered illegally have to go.

Period

Nearly every race, color and creed have people who entered this country illegally.

Does that make it OK for ICE to stop EVERYBODY?

Canadians, not Mexicans, represent largest number of visa overstays in the U.S., according to Department of Homeland Security

'They seem to think that they’re kind of the 51st state and the laws don’t apply to them'

nationalpost.com

Canadians, not Mexicans, represent largest number of visa overstays in the U.S., according to Department of Homeland Security

So there are more Canadian illegals, than there are Mexican illegals.

Time to do a stop and frisk on Canadians, Ay?

 

[postman]

But it doesn’t matter because that rule only says that refusal can be grounds for an arrest in those states. It doesn’t deny law enforcement their ongoing authority to ask.

Once more, California isn't one of those states.

So they can ask, but they better do it walking.

 

[Meathead]

Nearly every race, color and creed have people who entered this country illegally.

Does that make it OK for ICE to stop EVERYBODY?

Canadians, not Mexicans, represent largest number of visa overstays in the U.S., according to Department of Homeland Security

'They seem to think that they’re kind of the 51st state and the laws don’t apply to them'

nationalpost.com

Canadians, not Mexicans, represent largest number of visa overstays in the U.S., according to Department of Homeland Security

So there are more Canadian illegals, than there are Mexican illegals.

Time to do a stop and frisk on Canadians, Ay?

Really. You're pretty far gone, aren't you?

 

[postman]

In what thread? And what post number?

Since you weren't paying attention

U.S. Army Veteran and Citizen Wrongfully Detained in ICE Raid

George Retes, a 25-year-old U.S. Army veteran and citizen, was wrongfully detained for three days by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents during a chaotic immigration raid at a Southern California farm last week.

www.family-compassion.org