Wow, new video shows what it looks like in Venezuela. Scary to think govt is capable of this

[sakinago]

No this is also another cop out that's trying to be made by the left, with the election of trump, that chavez was a populist, more than a socialist, with trump being described as populist. Don't get me wrong I think trump is a socialist by nature. But so was Chavez and so is maduro.

And if Chavez was such a populist, then why didn't the socialist in America call him out for being just a populist? They had nothing but praise for him. Again, we have streets named after Chavez, we have movies with pretty big actors like micheal Pena glorifying Chavez. Would this have been done had the left only considered Chavez a populist?

I don't see the left in America as being socialist either. Social democrats sure, but not socialist. They supported a neo-liberal presidential candidate for crying out loud.

Well, you're kinda dumb then.

Who on the left is calling for the social ownership of the means of production? Abolishing capital if you will.

Did Chavez do it? Or did he simply replace private capital for state capital? Thereby leaving the wage laborer in the same predicament.

Are you seriously so fucking stupid you don't know what socialism is?

I just defined it for you. Do you lack the ability to understand?

The guy who calls himself a democratic socialis? Am I not to believe what he says?

 

[Tehon]

I don't see the left in America as being socialist either. Social democrats sure, but not socialist. They supported a neo-liberal presidential candidate for crying out loud.

Well, you're kinda dumb then.

Who on the left is calling for the social ownership of the means of production? Abolishing capital if you will.

Did Chavez do it? Or did he simply replace private capital for state capital? Thereby leaving the wage laborer in the same predicament.

Are you seriously so fucking stupid you don't know what socialism is?

I just defined it for you. Do you lack the ability to understand?

It's actually been defined throughout history. Socialism kills not only nations but millions of people. It never can work out any different. Venezuela will next see millions die because they chose this route. Why would we do that here?

Yes and I defined it properly. As it has been defined throughout history. The social ownership of the means of production.

Who is calling for it to be done here?

 

[Tehon]

I don't see the left in America as being socialist either. Social democrats sure, but not socialist. They supported a neo-liberal presidential candidate for crying out loud.

Well, you're kinda dumb then.

Who on the left is calling for the social ownership of the means of production? Abolishing capital if you will.

Did Chavez do it? Or did he simply replace private capital for state capital? Thereby leaving the wage laborer in the same predicament.

Are you seriously so fucking stupid you don't know what socialism is?

I just defined it for you. Do you lack the ability to understand?

The guy who calls himself a democratic socialis? Am I not to believe what he says?

That is your choice, I judge actions not words.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Well, you're kinda dumb then.

Who on the left is calling for the social ownership of the means of production? Abolishing capital if you will.

Did Chavez do it? Or did he simply replace private capital for state capital? Thereby leaving the wage laborer in the same predicament.

Are you seriously so fucking stupid you don't know what socialism is?

I just defined it for you. Do you lack the ability to understand?

It's actually been defined throughout history. Socialism kills not only nations but millions of people. It never can work out any different. Venezuela will next see millions die because they chose this route. Why would we do that here?

Yes and I defined it properly. As it has been defined throughout history. The social ownership of the means of production.

Who is calling for it to be done here?

Well you seem to be just a bit pissed off that healthcare isn't going further socialist. And then there's this, a moment of clarity from a lefty.


When doesn't socialism lead to that?

Socialism, communism, Nazism. All of them mean the government owns everything and doles it out to the fools as they see fit. Look at Venezuela and toilet paper, and oil, and healthcare.

Do you really not get this? You can't have socialism without the government running everything. If they don't it's not socialism.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Well, you're kinda dumb then.

Who on the left is calling for the social ownership of the means of production? Abolishing capital if you will.

Did Chavez do it? Or did he simply replace private capital for state capital? Thereby leaving the wage laborer in the same predicament.

Are you seriously so fucking stupid you don't know what socialism is?

I just defined it for you. Do you lack the ability to understand?

The guy who calls himself a democratic socialis? Am I not to believe what he says?

That is your choice, I judge actions not words.

Only a complete fool ignores the words.

 

[Tehon]

Who on the left is calling for the social ownership of the means of production? Abolishing capital if you will.

Did Chavez do it? Or did he simply replace private capital for state capital? Thereby leaving the wage laborer in the same predicament.

Are you seriously so fucking stupid you don't know what socialism is?

I just defined it for you. Do you lack the ability to understand?

It's actually been defined throughout history. Socialism kills not only nations but millions of people. It never can work out any different. Venezuela will next see millions die because they chose this route. Why would we do that here?

Yes and I defined it properly. As it has been defined throughout history. The social ownership of the means of production.

Who is calling for it to be done here?

Well you seem to be just a bit pissed off that healthcare isn't going further socialist. And then there's this, a moment of clarity from a lefty.


When doesn't socialism lead to that?

Socialism, communism, Nazism. All of them mean the government owns everything and doles it out to the fools as they see fit. Look at Venezuela and toilet paper, and oil, and healthcare.

Do you really not get this? You can't have socialism without the government running everything. If they don't it's not socialism.

Lol, I don't recall ever getting in on a healthcare debate.

State control is not socialism. It merely replaces one oppressor with another.

 

[Tehon]

Who on the left is calling for the social ownership of the means of production? Abolishing capital if you will.

Did Chavez do it? Or did he simply replace private capital for state capital? Thereby leaving the wage laborer in the same predicament.

Are you seriously so fucking stupid you don't know what socialism is?

I just defined it for you. Do you lack the ability to understand?

The guy who calls himself a democratic socialis? Am I not to believe what he says?

That is your choice, I judge actions not words.

Only a complete fool ignores the words.

Words without action are meaningless. Didn't you learn that as a kid. Sticks and stones......

 

[basquebromance]

watch protestors tearin down statue of Hugo Chavez earlier this week...

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