Would you intervene like Penny did on the subway???

[Lesh]

And, the defense pathologist expert said he did not. Here is another thing to ponder. I'm sure the jury also did this as well. 6 minutes with a choke hold to kill someone? No. It takes only a few seconds for a person to pass out. And, sometimes, they don't revive. For reference, I have my Associates degree in Police Science. I took classes for 3 years at the local Junior College. In the self-defense class they taught for police prospects, they performed actual choke holds until the students passed out. I was not one of them that agreed to it. But, in both cases, after the student was placed on his stomach, the instructor struck them in the back and they immediately began to breath again. It only took less than 10 seconds to choke them unconscious. So, if it took 5 minutes and seconds to do so with McNeely, then its obvious that Penny was not holding him to actually to stop breathing and render him unconscious. The jury also recognized this and agreed with the defense that there was more that contributed to the death.
Also, the main reason for a not guilty verdict is simple. It's called Good Samaritan Laws. The case should have never been brought, period. But the New York DA, Bragg, is a horrible man. He should be fired and maybe sent to jail himself for his illegalities with Trump and Penny.

The “defense pathologist expert” who was paid to testify that way

The medical examiner stated it was because his neck was constricted

 

[blackhawk]

Honestly probably not even though the verdict was in Penny's favor, and thankfully it worked out for him with a DA like Bragg I wouldn't want to risk it.

 

[Cougarbear]

The “defense pathologist expert” who was paid to testify that way

The medical examiner stated it was because his neck was constricted

From someone who has had no training in either. Like I said, it only takes a few seconds to pass out from a choke hold, not 6 minutes. And, to crush veins? Again, a few seconds. The jury saw threw the lying Bragg and his witnesses.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Yup. Bragg never would have charged a black Penny.

A black Penny would be under the jail.

 

[Lisa558]

A black Penny would be under the jail.

You’ve already been shown that a black Penny did WORSE a few weeks later - and then fled the scene - and charges were dropped.

 

[Lisa558]

Yup. Bragg never would have charged a black Penny.

Yup. Look up Jordan Williams. He not only stabbed to death a homeless lunatic in the subway threatening to “erase people,” but after he killed him, he fled the scene. (Cops found him.)

Bragg dropped the charges against the black Penny, while the white Penny (as he was referred to by the prosecution during trial) was facing up to 15 years in prison.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

You’ve already been shown that a black Penny did WORSE a few weeks later - and then fled the scene - and charges were dropped.

The white man punched his damn wife, Neely hadn't put a finger on anyone.

 

[Lisa558]

The white man punched his damn wife, Neely hadn't put a finger on anyone.

You have been told a million times already that self-defense (or defense of others) doesn’t require a finger on you - it just requires a reasonable fear of imminent harm.

Whitey got the book thrown at him, while blackie (who fled the scene after viciously stabbing the guy to death) had the charges dropped.

 

[Rawley]

A black Penny would be under the jail.

Nope

 

[Superbadbrutha]

You have been told a million times already that self-defense (or defense of others) doesn’t require a finger on you - it just requires a reasonable fear of imminent harm.

Whitey got the book thrown at him, while blackie (who fled the scene after viciously stabbing the guy to death) had the charges dropped.

Why do u keep trying to change what the law says?

"Under New York law, a person is justified in using deadly physical force when they reasonably believe it is necessary to use such force to defend themselves or others from imminent use of deadly or unlawful physical force," the DA statement continue.

Neely had harmed NO ONE.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Nope

American history proves what you are claiming is a lie.

 

[MarathonMike]

A black Penny would be under the jail.

If Penny was Black, it would not have made the evening news. The proof of that is the weekly Black on Black carnage in Chicago that never gets attention from the Press.

 

[Lisa558]

Why do u keep trying to change what the law says?

"Under New York law, a person is justified in using deadly physical force when they reasonably believe it is necessary to use such force to defend themselves or others from imminent use of deadly or unlawful physical force," the DA statement continue.

Neely had harmed NO ONE.

Can you read, bozo? It says “imminent use of deadly force” - not physical attack actually started.

Whitey should have NEVER been prosecuted, but Bragg is a racist. He let Blackie flee the scene (which IS a crime) off without a trial.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Can you read, bozo? It says “imminent use of deadly force” - not physical attack actually started.

WTF is unlawful physical force? A man selling wolf tickets and actually harming someone is 2 different things.

Whitey should have NEVER been prosecuted, but Bragg is a racist. He let Blackie flee the scene (which IS a crime) off without a trial.

So your dumbass thinks that a white man who murdered a black man shouldn't have been prosecuted, but a black man who was protecting his wife should have. You shouldn't ever try and call someone a racist.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

If Penny was Black, it would not have made the evening news. The proof of that is the weekly Black on Black carnage in Chicago that never gets attention from the Press.

Yea because his ass would have been arrested that day and would never see the light of day again. Where does white on white crime get reported at?

 

[Lisa558]

WTF is unlawful physical force? A man selling wolf tickets and actually harming someone is 2 different things.

So your dumbass thinks that a white man who murdered a black man shouldn't have been prosecuted, but a black man who was protecting his wife should have. You shouldn't ever try and call someone a racist.

You’re hopeless.

 

[Lisa558]

Yea because his ass would have been arrested that day and would never see the light of day again. Where does white on white crime get reported at?

The black Penny FLED THE SCENE - which is a crime! But Bragg let him off without any consequences.

The white Penny committed no crime at all.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

The black Penny FLED THE SCENE - which is a crime! But Bragg let him off without any consequences.

The white Penny committed no crime at all.

You mean Penny was on trial for shits and giggles.

Evidently it wasn't.

 

[Mashmont]

After this trial, and the disregard of Good Samaritan laws by the left, would you step in and defend others like Penny did? If you would, what would you do different, if anything?

I can say that I did something similar when I was substitute teaching some 43 years ago. I was substituting in a middle school 8th grade class. Apparently, one kid was pestering another much bigger and stronger kid. The bigger kid, who was my size stood up, turned around and start punching the kid in the face. I shouted at him to stop, but he kept on hitting him. I went to him from the back and wrapped my arm around him and bent him over my knee. My arm was up around his neck area but not in a head lock. Much like Penny was doing. The kid weighed the same as me. But, I had been a black belt for 9 years and was able to keep him bent back over my knee. He struggled trying to get out of my hold. Finally, after about 30 seconds and me telling him to calm down, he calmed down. The girl next to us said to me that he was turning blue. I asked him if he could breathe and he said he could. He was just turning colors from struggling. I asked him if he was ready to stop fighting and go to the principal's office and he said he was. I held him like Penny held the guy. Penny didn't have him in a choke hold. If he did, the guy would have been out in about 3 seconds. So, that is not what killed the guy.

A year later, I was still substitute teaching and went one day to sub in a P.E. class at the high school near the middle school. I heard someone shout out my name at me. It was the same kid I had wrapped up a year earlier. He came over smiling. We talked and laughed about it. It said he was surprised I was able to control him so easily. I then told him I am a black belt for 10 years now. He wasn't mad and actually thanked me for stopping him because he said he was totally out of control and may have killed him.

When I finally landed a teaching job that I held for 16 years at a high school, I wrapped up a few kids to stop them from fighting. I never had one of them get mad at me. They all thanked me from stopping them because they said they would have killed the other kid. Two guys once were on my basketball team and fighting during lunch. I grabbed the big guy in a front bear hug and moved him 30 feet into a class room and sat him down. He was 6'2" and about 200 lbs. I was 5'8" and about 185 at the time. I had been weight lifting and could bench 350 lbs. I sat him down in the chair still hanging on him. He said I'm going to kill him. I said, you can't even get out of my grip. What are you talking about? He stopped wiggling and calmed down. The next day in practice, he was fine and they worked out their disagreement.

Don't be afraid to help people in need. The world needs people who are willing to help and stop violence. I praise Penny for his fearlessness to help those who could have been seriously hurt. Apparently, this guy actually hit old people in the past and sent them to the hospital. Alvin Bragg should be fired and locked up in a mental institution with the rest of the leftist Democrats who blame people because of the color of their skin.

I’m not trained in martial arts, but I would definitely grab the guy from behind. I’ve thought of the same thing if a gunman entered our church during Mass and started firing. If close, I think I would tackle him, even if from the front even at the risk of being killed. If farther away, I would shout “Police officer. Drop it!” in order to distract him. I’m open to other suggestions if somebody were faced with a mass shooter.

 

[Meathead]

You mean Penny was on trial for shits and giggles.

Evidently it wasn't.

Yes, obviously. He killed a drug-addled thug who was threatening others. He is a fucking hero!