Would You Cheat on a Spouse?

I don't think William was talking about once in while. It sounds like the refusals were on a consistent basis.

Ever consider that William may have earned the no, not with you?

I think there are some things, like sex, that are a given in a marriage. If they aren't then they better have been spelled out from the beginning. If someone thinks they are withdrawing part of what they agreed to then I think it's quite possible the marriage is over. There's something seriously wrong if someone doesn't want to be intimate with their partner and it's even worse if they think they can just stop and keep enjoying the other benefits that come with marriage.
 
I don't think William was talking about once in while. It sounds like the refusals were on a consistent basis.

Ever consider that William may have earned the no, not with you?

I think there are some things, like sex, that are a given in a marriage. If they aren't then they better have been spelled out from the beginning. If someone thinks they are withdrawing part of what they agreed to then I think it's quite possible the marriage is over. There's something seriously wrong if someone doesn't want to be intimate with their partner and it's even worse if they think they can just stop and keep enjoying the other benefits that come with marriage.

Apparently it needs to be part of the contract--in ink.
It seems to be sorta vague don't you think ?
 
Where does a marriage contract say that a spouse has to put out or else on demand?
 
Bullshit nothing. If your marriage is to the point where you're dropping ultimatums such as "if you don't put out, I'm going elsewhere", rather than talking/working through it, then your marriage IS done, and you should just get the divorce, rather than staying married.

People stay married for a ton of reasons besides just sex. If one spouse isn't into having sex, the other spouse should be open about his/her needs, and deal with it honestly, rather than cheating. Better that than pretending things are fine and going behind the person's back, dishonestly.
 
Bullshit nothing. If your marriage is to the point where you're dropping ultimatums such as "if you don't put out, I'm going elsewhere", rather than talking/working through it, then your marriage IS done, and you should just get the divorce, rather than staying married.

People stay married for a ton of reasons besides just sex. If one spouse isn't into having sex, the other spouse should be open about his/her needs, and deal with it honestly, rather than cheating. Better that than pretending things are fine and going behind the person's back, dishonestly.

How can one spouse deny the other sex and continue to expect fidelity ?
 
not much point in keeping that on your payroll .
Is exclusive and "enough" sex part of the marriage contract ?

It is for me. Now, given that, if he has some physical disability that renders him unable to perform, there are ways to have sex without having SEX, if you catch my drift. But someone who simply stops putting out, entirely? Fuck that noise.
 
Bullshit nothing. If your marriage is to the point where you're dropping ultimatums such as "if you don't put out, I'm going elsewhere", rather than talking/working through it, then your marriage IS done, and you should just get the divorce, rather than staying married.

People stay married for a ton of reasons besides just sex. If one spouse isn't into having sex, the other spouse should be open about his/her needs, and deal with it honestly, rather than cheating. Better that than pretending things are fine and going behind the person's back, dishonestly.

How can one spouse deny the other sex and continue to expect fidelity ?

In sickness and in health until death do us part. Does a wife dump her husband and start shagging someone else when he has prostate cancer? What about mental illness or normal aging?

Do you dump the man or woman you love for improved body parts?
 
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How can one spouse deny the other sex and continue to expect fidelity ?

In my opinion, they can't. It's simply absurd. Sex is as much a human need as food and clothing. I have a close friend, Brian, whose wife hasn't slept with him in years, and in fact, refuses to touch him physically.

Is he obligated to continue to be faithful to her? In my opinion, no. Though, I think he should be honest and open with her, and tell her what he's planning to do. That isn't an ultimatum, it's saying, "I have no plans to divorce you, for the sake of the kids, but I have needs. If you are unwilling or unable to meet those needs, I will be pursuing them elsewhere."

I have no moral objection to that. What I don't like is the lying and sneaking that cheating always seems to entail.
 
Ever consider that William may have earned the no, not with you?

I think there are some things, like sex, that are a given in a marriage. If they aren't then they better have been spelled out from the beginning. If someone thinks they are withdrawing part of what they agreed to then I think it's quite possible the marriage is over. There's something seriously wrong if someone doesn't want to be intimate with their partner and it's even worse if they think they can just stop and keep enjoying the other benefits that come with marriage.

Apparently it needs to be part of the contract--in ink.
It seems to be sorta vague don't you think ?

I guess for some.

To me there are a lot of things that are part of the deal and are pretty much non-negotiable unless there are really extenuating circumstances.
 

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