Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[ElmerMudd]

President Trump never said he was chosen by God. And my fellow Trump supporters are free to see what happened to Trump as a sign of God’s hand being involved.

So, no. Your petty request is denied. I won’t advise anyone to “shut up” about their belief in Divine intervention in this matter.

Find something closer to being of any merit to whine about. This nonsense only serves to highlight how vapid you always are.

Donald Trump stated that God spared him in the July 2024 assassination attempt so he could return to lead the country. He said in his January 2025 inauguration speech, "I was saved by God to make America great again," referencing divine intervention in his mission to restore the nation. He also mentioned this belief on social media and in speeches after the attack

 

[hobelim]

You may not have but many have. When Trump was shot, many, including Trump, said he was spared by god to be able to fulfill his Presidency.

The entire event was staged. If Trump really was shot the secret service would have covered him with their bodies tossed him into a bulletproof car and sped away. They never would have let him stand up and defiantly lift his nazi fist in the air giving the shooter another shot.

Thats a fact.

 

[BackAgain]

Donald Trump stated that God spared him in the July 2024 assassination attempt so he could return to lead the country. He said in his January 2025 inauguration speech, "I was saved by God to make America great again," referencing divine intervention in his mission to restore the nation. He also mentioned this belief on social media and in speeches after the attack

I know that President Trump believes rhat God spared him. And mine with that. And he can also believe that God did so for a particular purpose.

Under the circumstances, it’s not an unrealistic perspective.

And I also don’t care how much he has repeated that view.

But what you suggested that I do is to advise my fellow Trump supporters to stop making that very claim. And your application is denied. It’s not your concern.

And besides, if it ruffles your feathers, it’s even better.

 

[BackAgain]

The entire event was staged. If Trump really was shot the secret service would have covered him with their bodies tossed him into a bulletproof car and sped away. They never would have let him stand up and defiantly lift his nazi fist in the air giving the shooter another shot.

Thats a fact.

It isn’t a fact. It’s your absurd and baseless speculation.

You’re an asshole.

 

[ElmerMudd]

I know that President Trump believes rhat God spared him. And mine with that. And he can also believe that God did so for a particular purpose.

Under the circumstances, it’s not an unrealistic perspective.

And I also don’t care how much he has repeated that view.

But what you suggested that I do is to advise my fellow Trump supporters to stop making that very claim. And your application is denied. It’s not your concern.

And besides, if it ruffles your feathers, it’s even better.

One of the biggest reason I don't support Trump is because of his immorality. I learned my morals grtowing up in a Christian church. I cannot see how anyone can associate Donald Trump and the Christian church as I know it.
You and your buddies think the way you want and I will think the way I want. Move on.
Some day we will all meet our maker and we will find out who is correct.

 

[Polishprince]

One of the biggest reason I don't support Trump is because of his immorality. I learned my morals grtowing up in a Christian church. I cannot see how anyone can associate Donald Trump and the Christian church as I know it.
You and your buddies think the way you want and I will think the way I want. Move on.
Some day we will all meet our maker and we will find out who is correct.

Apparently you missed the part about repentance in your Bible lessons.

Christians like Donald J. Trump realize everyone sins, but the key is to turn away from you sins.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Apparently you missed the part about repentance in your Bible lessons.

Christians like Donald J. Trump realize everyone sins, but the key is to turn away from you sins.

I agree that Christians realize they sin and ask for forgiveness. Donald Trump says "

Trump: 'Why Do I Have to Repent or Ask for Forgiveness If I Am Not Making Mistakes?​

That is one of the reasons I don'tr think he is a serious Christian.

Trump: 'Why Do I Have to Repent or Ask for Forgiveness If I Am Not Making Mistakes?' (Video)

Following Donald Trump s appearance last week at the Family Leadership Summit in Iowa, CNN s Anderson Cooper sought out clarification on Trump s assertion that he s unsure if he ever asks God s

www.christianpost.com

 

[Carl in Michigan]

He wouldn’t support Trump or any other world leader. He stated his kingdom was no part of this world.

He also didn't call on His followers to riot/"protest" the government.

He would tell you to do kind acts toward the ICE agents

 

[ding]

Right.

The world he was living in was a Roman wilderness of pain where the higher one gets, in the hierarchy of hell, the lower they go and the more despicable and cruel they become.

As I said the fight is against "the powers that be", principalities and the potentates of the darkness OF THIS WORLD. A potentate is a monarch or ruler, especially an autocratic one. A principality is a state ruled by a prince. How is this spiritual fight not a political one?

If Jesus or his disciples were here they would be excoriating Trump and extirpating MAGA.

The focus of Jesus wasn't material existence. He said as much when he famously said, "the flesh is of no avail." His great commission was about spiritual lives not material lives.

 

[ding]

Thsts even worse and not at all true as Jew Jesus cant believe in hell

It's not true that Jews can't believe in hell; Judaism acknowledges concepts like Gehinnom (Gehenna) and Sheol, but they are generally understood as temporary spiritual purification or cleansing for the soul, not eternal damnation like in some Christian traditions, with the truly wicked facing annihilation or prolonged spiritual refinement. Jewish views on the afterlife are diverse, focusing more on purification and spiritual connection to God, with the "World to Come" being a shared experience for the righteous of all faiths, emphasizing actions over rigid dogma.

Key Jewish Concepts of the Afterlife (including "Hell"):

• Gehinnom (Gehenna): More akin to purgatory, it's a place where souls are cleansed of sins, often for a limited period (around 12 months) through psychological anguish or shame, not physical torture.
• Sheol: An ancient biblical term, originally a shadowy place for the dead, later interpreted as a spiritual realm for purification.
• Spiritual Cleansing: The pain in Gehinnom is seen as a spiritual washing machine, removing spiritual "blemishes" so the soul can experience God's presence.
• Olam Ha-Ba (The World to Come): A state of profound spiritual connection to God, accessible to righteous people of any background, not just Jews.

Differences from Other Views:

• Temporary vs. Eternal: Jewish concepts of post-death punishment are generally temporary, focused on refining the soul.
• Purpose: The goal is purification and spiritual growth, not eternal torment.
• No Centralized Dogma: Judaism offers diverse interpretations, with no single, universally enforced doctrine on heaven or hell, unlike some other faiths.

In essence, while the idea of a punitive afterlife exists in Jewish thought, it's a nuanced concept of spiritual refinement rather than eternal punishment, with a strong focus on actions in this life.

 

[ding]

The historian Josephus noted that the Pharisees believed in punishment for the wicked in the afterlife, potentially eternal, a view contrasting with Sadducees.

In essence, while some historical Jewish movements held beliefs similar to eternal punishment for extreme wickedness, it's not a universally held or central doctrine in contemporary Judaism, which prefers concepts of temporary purification and spiritual refinement.

 

[Invisibleflash]

Do you really feel Jesus Christ would support Trump and MAGA if alive today.
I have a hard time believing he would.
MAGA is the opposite of many of Jesus's key teachings.

• Jesus’s call for humility and service over power and wealth.
• His commands to love and care for outsiders and the disadvantaged
• Jesus never sought political office or power and urged His followers to seek God’s kingdom rather than worldly rule.
• His emphasis was on care, compassion, and justice for all people, especially the vulnerable.
• He challenged religious and political leaders alike when they ignored mercy and righteousness
• Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31)
• “I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” (Matthew 25:35)
• The Good Samaritan (Luke 10) centers moral duty on care for foreigners and enemies.
• Jesus rejects earthly power, status, and domination (Matthew 20:25–28).
• Jesus condemns deception and hypocrisy (Matthew 23).
• Jesus repeatedly warns against wealth and neglect of the poor (Luke 12, Luke 16).
• What mortal man does not realize we are all flawed and ask Jesus for forgiveness? Trump has said "Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?"
• 'Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions'” (Luke 12:15).

MAGA is not the issue. Trump is the scummiest of humans.

There is no Jesus. It is all manmade lies.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Do you really feel Jesus Christ would support Trump and MAGA if alive today.
I have a hard time believing he would.
MAGA is the opposite of many of Jesus's key teachings.

• Jesus’s call for humility and service over power and wealth.
• His commands to love and care for outsiders and the disadvantaged
• Jesus never sought political office or power and urged His followers to seek God’s kingdom rather than worldly rule.
• His emphasis was on care, compassion, and justice for all people, especially the vulnerable.
• He challenged religious and political leaders alike when they ignored mercy and righteousness
• Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31)
• “I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” (Matthew 25:35)
• The Good Samaritan (Luke 10) centers moral duty on care for foreigners and enemies.
• Jesus rejects earthly power, status, and domination (Matthew 20:25–28).
• Jesus condemns deception and hypocrisy (Matthew 23).
• Jesus repeatedly warns against wealth and neglect of the poor (Luke 12, Luke 16).
• What mortal man does not realize we are all flawed and ask Jesus for forgiveness? Trump has said "Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?"
• 'Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions'” (Luke 12:15).

A complete strawman if I ever saw one. This post holds no weight.

 

[SweetSue92]

Do you really feel Jesus Christ would support Trump and MAGA if alive today.
I have a hard time believing he would.
MAGA is the opposite of many of Jesus's key teachings.

• Jesus’s call for humility and service over power and wealth.
• His commands to love and care for outsiders and the disadvantaged
• Jesus never sought political office or power and urged His followers to seek God’s kingdom rather than worldly rule.
• His emphasis was on care, compassion, and justice for all people, especially the vulnerable.
• He challenged religious and political leaders alike when they ignored mercy and righteousness
• Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31)
• “I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” (Matthew 25:35)
• The Good Samaritan (Luke 10) centers moral duty on care for foreigners and enemies.
• Jesus rejects earthly power, status, and domination (Matthew 20:25–28).
• Jesus condemns deception and hypocrisy (Matthew 23).
• Jesus repeatedly warns against wealth and neglect of the poor (Luke 12, Luke 16).
• What mortal man does not realize we are all flawed and ask Jesus for forgiveness? Trump has said "Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?"
• 'Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions'” (Luke 12:15).

People who are Christians, who love and follow Jesus Christ, don't much care about what Jesus would think of Donald Trump. We care what Jesus would say about US.

People who don't give a fig about Jesus, but have made politics their religion, love to tell actual Christians what Jesus thinks.

 

[Meriweather]

One of the biggest reason I don't support Trump is because of his immorality. I learned my morals grtowing up in a Christian church. I cannot see how anyone can associate Donald Trump and the Christian church as I know it.
You and your buddies think the way you want and I will think the way I want. Move on.
Some day we will all meet our maker and we will find out who is correct.

A couple of thoughts: Saul and David were chosen as kings. It can be rightly asserted both were immoral. The Pharisees in Jesus days were urging the people in following the Law, in obedience to God, so that he would deliver them from the slavery of Roman rule, and again be with them, making them a great nation. Along comes Jesus and his disciples continually (and very publicly) not following the Law, and in the Pharisees' minds, by their very disobedience, getting in the way of God's plan to deliver the Jews from Rome.

Many see the hand of God in Trump's presidency. He is a President like no other mostly because both political machines work against him. Look back over Washington the last few decades. Isn't it obvious that the political machines are presenting their puppets for the electorate to choose from? President Trump greatly angered the Machines and they have been out to destroy him. What say you: Is it more likely God is behind machinery, or is it more likely he supports an individual person/people? You must know that the Political Machine ran the United States during the Biden Presidency.

 

[TheInfiniteSadness]

Everywhere and Christians repeat it endlessly. Thats why they invented hell and original sin none of which is in Genesis. Its threat to force obedience

Quote a verse of the bible.

 

[ding]

It isn’t a fact. It’s your absurd and baseless speculation.

You’re an asshole.

Actually it's more akin to a conspiracy theory.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I am not sure about Jesus but G-d will as long as he is fighting for Judeo-Christian values.

He needs to be more humble at times in my opinion and I do hope he is a believer. The deeper one analyzes the prospect of a creator the more one naturally arrives at the conclusion that no other alternative theory is suitable.

 

[ElmerMudd]

People who are Christians, who love and follow Jesus Christ, don't much care about what Jesus would think of Donald Trump. We care what Jesus would say about US.

People who don't give a fig about Jesus, but have made politics their religion, love to tell actual Christians what Jesus thinks.

I care about our leaders moral compass. It affects our country, our citizens and the citizens of the world.

A couple of thoughts: Saul and David were chosen as kings. It can be rightly asserted both were immoral. The Pharisees in Jesus days were urging the people in following the Law, in obedience to God, so that he would deliver them from the slavery of Roman rule, and again be with them, making them a great nation. Along comes Jesus and his disciples continually (and very publicly) not following the Law, and in the Pharisees' minds, by their very disobedience, getting in the way of God's plan to deliver the Jews from Rome.

Many see the hand of God in Trump's presidency. He is a President like no other mostly because both political machines work against him. Look back over Washington the last few decades. Isn't it obvious that the political machines are presenting their puppets for the electorate to choose from? President Trump greatly angered the Machines and they have been out to destroy him. What say you: Is it more likely God is behind machinery, or is it more likely he supports an individual person/people? You must know that the Political Machine ran the United States during the Biden Presidency.

I STRONGLY disagree.
I feel the political machine, as led by Trump, follows God's tenets less than any president and political machine in my lifetime. He is negatively affecting the lives of God's children, worldwide, more than any President in my lifetime.
As I said. We will all meet our maker and we will find out who is right and who is wrong.

 

[Meriweather]

I care about our leaders moral compass. It affects our country, our citizens and the citizens of the world.

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I STRONGLY disagree.
I feel the political machine, as led by Trump, follows God's tenets less than any president and political machine in my lifetime. He is negatively affecting the lives of God's children, worldwide, more than any President in my lifetime.
As I said. We will all meet our maker and we will find out who is right and who is wrong.

How have your morals been effected by President Trump? How have your children's? How about your neighbor's? The President runs a nation. Individuals each run their own personal lives. There hasn't been a single political ruler in my lifetime that has had any effect on my values or morals. I decide those, and as I am not a nation, no President has had any effect on them at all.