Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[hobelim]

It isn’t a fact. It’s your absurd and baseless speculation.

You’re an asshole.

Well, genius, if it wasn’t staged, then I guess the Secret Service wanted him dead.

Maybe you should do some research on their protocols in such a situation because you’re the one who speaking out of your ass.

You were fooled by a transparent show, Fodder for the clueless brainwashed who thinks he’s some sort of ******* hero. When in fact, he is a traitor was openly betrayed the constitution openly betrayed the people who supported him betray every American by trying to suppress civil rights and violating international law. He should be led away in handcuffs, tried and convicted for his abuse of power and many constitutional violations, defying international law and murder

And some people don’t believe in talking serpents who beguile the gullible

Imagine that!

 

[Meriweather]

Not true

No Charity has the capability of handling public assistance the way the government can. Charities are hit or miss and many fall through the cracks

Again, do the research.

 

[BackAgain]

Well, genius, if it wasn’t staged, then I guess the Secret Service wanted him dead.

What a brainless thing to say. You’re an asshole.

 

[Thinker101]

Do you really feel Jesus Christ would support Trump and MAGA if alive today.
I have a hard time believing he would.
MAGA is the opposite of many of Jesus's key teachings.

• Jesus’s call for humility and service over power and wealth.
• His commands to love and care for outsiders and the disadvantaged
• Jesus never sought political office or power and urged His followers to seek God’s kingdom rather than worldly rule.
• His emphasis was on care, compassion, and justice for all people, especially the vulnerable.
• He challenged religious and political leaders alike when they ignored mercy and righteousness
• Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31)
• “I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” (Matthew 25:35)
• The Good Samaritan (Luke 10) centers moral duty on care for foreigners and enemies.
• Jesus rejects earthly power, status, and domination (Matthew 20:25–28).
• Jesus condemns deception and hypocrisy (Matthew 23).
• Jesus repeatedly warns against wealth and neglect of the poor (Luke 12, Luke 16).
• What mortal man does not realize we are all flawed and ask Jesus for forgiveness? Trump has said "Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?"
• 'Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions'” (Luke 12:15).

Now tell us Jesus would be out there rioting along with you loons in Minnesota.

 

[ding]

Well, genius, if it wasn’t staged, then I guess the Secret Service wanted him dead.

Maybe you should do some research on their protocols in such a situation because you’re the one who speaking out of your ass.

You were fooled by a transparent show, Fodder for the clueless brainwashed who thinks he’s some sort of ******* hero. When in fact, he is a traitor was openly betrayed the constitution openly betrayed the people who supported him betray every American by trying to suppress civil rights and violating international law. He should be led away in handcuffs, tried and convicted for his abuse of power and many constitutional violations, defying international law and murder

And some people don’t believe in talking serpents who beguile the gullible

Imagine that!

Walk me through your conspiracy theory that has the secret service in on it.

 

[ding]

What a brainless thing to say. You’re an asshole.

If I'm not mistaken he is arguing that the secret service was in on the conspiracy to commit fraud. Talk about a loon.

 

[ding]

The entire event was staged. If Trump really was shot the secret service would have covered him with their bodies tossed him into a bulletproof car and sped away.

So the secret service was in on the fraud?

 

[BackAgain]

If I'm not mistaken he is arguing that the secret service was in on the conspiracy to commit fraud. Talk about a loon.

If he had argued that the level of incompetence regarding Trump’s security was clear and alarming, I’d happily be agreeing with him.

But to claim that incompetence was actually a designed conspiracy has zero support in any facts and in logic. As I said, he’s an asshole.

 

[ding]

If he had argued that the level of incompetence regarding Trump’s security was clear and alarming, I’d happily be agreeing with him.

But to claim that incompetence was actually a designed conspiracy has zero support in any facts and in logic. As I said, he’s an asshole.

And not a particularly intelligent one at that. Watch hobelim squirm now.

 

[hobelim]

What a brainless thing to say. You’re an asshole.

You’re just too stupid and blinded by Trump Maga Nazi propaganda to see what’s in front of your eyes. And you think “you’re an asshole” is some sort of brilliant response?

Asshole

 

[BackAgain]

And a dumb one at that. Watch hobelim squirm now.

He will either run away or just start mindlessly repeating his baseless claims —mostly because he’s an asshole.

 

[BackAgain]

You’re just too stupid and blinded by Trump Maga Nazi propaganda to see what’s in front of your eyes. And you think “you’re an asshole” is some sort of brilliant response?

Asshole

Your claims are just more of your baseless claims. There is, of course, no valid nexus between MAGA and Nazis, you fraudulent ****.

And noting that you’re an asshole is mere (and correct) observation.

But thanks for signing your asshole post, you asshole.

 

[hobelim]

So the secret service was in on the fraud?

I said it’s one of the other, pay attention. Was either staged or they were totally ******* incompetent or they wanted him dead.

Those are the only three logical possibilities

Personally, I don’t think they were incompetent so that leaves two

he had a bandage covering on his boo-boo on his ear for only a couple days. With no visible wound after. So I guess it was staged.

 

[ding]

He will either run away or just start mindlessly repeating his baseless claims —mostly because he’s an asshole.

The Secret Service has historically had different protocols and resource levels for a sitting president versus major presidential candidates, with the President receiving the highest level of permanent protection, while candidates get temporary, risk-based assignments starting closer to the election, but recent legislation aims to standardize security for both, reflecting increased threats, with President Trump highlighting this disparity by requiring intensive protection as both a former President and candidate.
Key Differences in Protocols & Resources:

• Sitting President: Receives the maximum, permanent protection detail, with agents permanently assigned, a higher density of agents, and greater resources.
• Major Candidates: Protection is temporary, starts 120 days before the election, and is determined by threat assessments, often resulting in fewer agents than a sitting president.
• Resource Allocation: Traditionally, sitting Presidents and Vice Presidents got the most, followed by former presidents (with varying levels), then major candidates, but this is changing.

Recent Changes & Legislation:

• Enhanced Presidential Security Act (2024): This bipartisan bill, passed by the House, mandates the Secret Service use the same standards to determine agent numbers for Presidents, Vice Presidents, and major candidates, aiming for equal protection.
• Trump's Situation: As both a former President and a candidate, Donald Trump's intense security needs, especially after assassination attempts, pushed for reforms, with the Secret Service later increasing his security to levels comparable to a sitting president.

In essence: While the sitting President always gets the top tier, recent events and legislation are pushing for greater parity in resources for major candidates, closing the gap in protection levels.

 

[ding]

I said it’s one of the other, pay attention. Was either staged or they were totally ******* incompetent or they wanted him dead.

Those are the only three logical possibilities

Personally, I don’t think they were incompetent so that leaves two

That's not what you said first. I love watching you squirm when you get caught with your pants down.

The entire event was staged. If Trump really was shot the secret service would have covered him with their bodies tossed him into a bulletproof car and sped away.

 

[ding]

There is no evidence, from any official investigation or credible news source, that the Secret Service staged the July 2024 assassination attempt on Donald Trump. Instead, multiple independent reviews and congressional reports have concluded the incident was a genuine, but preventable, security failure.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) investigated the incident as a genuine assassination attempt and potential act of domestic terrorism. The shooter, Thomas Matthew Crooks, was a 20-year-old individual who legally purchased an AR-15-style rifle and opened fire from an unsecured rooftop near the stage in Butler, Pennsylvania. A Secret Service counter-sniper ultimately shot and killed the gunman. One attendee was killed, two others were wounded, and Trump sustained an injury to his ear.

Subsequent reviews by the Department of Homeland Security, the Government Accountability Office, and a Senate committee identified significant failures in the Secret Service's planning and execution of security for the rally, including poor communication, a lack of specific guidance, and a failure to secure the elevated position used by the gunman. These reviews led to the suspension of six Secret Service agents and the resignation of the agency's director at the time, Kimberly Cheatle.

Conspiracy theories that the shooting was staged spread rapidly online, often based on digitally altered images or misinterpretations of events, but have been widely debunked by fact-checkers. The consensus from official investigations is that the event was a real attack resulting from significant security lapses, not an inside job or staged event.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Now tell us Jesus would be out there rioting along with you loons in Minnesota.

You didn't answer my question.
The answer to your question is no.
Now answr mine.

 

[ElmerMudd]

I don't know. Do you live on the border? I do not. On the other hand, there are Catholic churches in countries further away who are in need to whom I donate. I don't wait for the federal government to do it for me. There is a teen program in a town several miles away to whom I donate. I don't wait for the state or local governments to do it for me. I don't whine to the President, Governor, Mayor to give to those in need for me, any more than I tell a student in need to go to the Principal instead.

Your idea of running your money through a bureaucracy and whine about the political figures not giving to your causes is your idea of being a Christian. My idea is I see a need, I fill a need. Personally. I don't look around for someone to do it in my stead.

You must be aware of how much fraud takes place when government gets involved in good deeds? Governmental good deeds are easy places for fraud, and I am not in favor of further lining the rich pockets of the greedy.

My inference was Jesus would be supporting those in need at the border as opposed to Trump and his programs.
Who takes care of those in need is a different question.
Ideally it would be individuals who have the means to. There is enough resources with individuals to do the job. Unfortunately, too many people are all about themself. Greed rules too many.
When I refer to those in need, I mean those in need because of no circumstances they can control.

 

[Eman623]

Jesus wouldn't have supported any politician. His kingdom was no part of this world.

 

[Meriweather]

My inference was Jesus would be supporting those in need at the border as opposed to Trump and his programs.
Who takes care of those in need is a different question.
Ideally it would be individuals who have the means to. There is enough resources with individuals to do the job. Unfortunately, too many people are all about themself. Greed rules too many.
When I refer to those in need, I mean those in need because of no circumstances they can control.

I understand. However...how about those who are in such dire need, they have no way to reach our borders? Drug cartels and sex traffickers should not have free reign, which is why there should be a viable process for immigration, and certainly not open borders. Those searching out life in the United States should have their process. The United States should have their process for reaching out to those in dire need.