Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

"This is the plague with which the LORD will strike all "the nations" that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths." Zechariah 14:12
Here's the evidence that shows the reporting of the resurrection shows a deliberate effort by the gospel writers to affirm that the resurrection was not a myth or legend, but a concrete event.

Key Evidence of a Concerted Effort

The Gospels employ several strategies to assert the reality of the resurrection:
  • The Empty Tomb & Early Witnesses: All four Gospels record that women were the first witnesses to the empty tomb on Sunday morning, an detail that would have been unlikely to be fabricated in 1st-century Jewish culture where a woman's testimony was often not accepted.
  • Physicality of the Risen Jesus: To combat early notions that Jesus only rose spiritually, the Gospels emphasize a physical resurrection. Luke 24:39-43 describes Jesus eating fish and showing his "flesh and bones," while John 20:24-29 features Jesus inviting Thomas to touch his wounds.
  • Post-Resurrection Appearances: The Gospels record multiple appearances to individuals and groups, including Mary Magdalene, other women, the disciples in locked rooms, and on the road to Emmaus, designed to prove he was alive.
  • The Great Commission: The Gospel narratives culminate in Jesus appearing to his disciples to authorize their mission, cementing the resurrection as the foundation of the Christian faith.
Thematic Differences in the Narratives

While the message is consistent, the authors emphasize different aspects:
  • Matthew (28): Highlights the earthquake, the guarding of the tomb, and Jesus' appearance to the women.
  • Mark (16): Originally ends abruptly with the empty tomb and fearful women, though the longer ending (16:9-20) adds later,, traditional post-resurrection appearances.
  • Luke (24): Focuses on the road to Emmaus appearance and the physical, touchable nature of Jesus, emphasizing the fulfillment of Scripture.
  • John (20-21): Provides detailed accounts of Mary Magdalene at the tomb and the doubting Thomas scene, placing strong emphasis on the personal, intimate nature of the interactions.
 
Here's the evidence that shows the reporting of the resurrection shows a deliberate effort by the gospel writers to affirm that the resurrection was not a myth or legend, but a concrete event.

Key Evidence of a Concerted Effort

The Gospels employ several strategies to assert the reality of the resurrection:
  • The Empty Tomb & Early Witnesses: All four Gospels record that women were the first witnesses to the empty tomb on Sunday morning, an detail that would have been unlikely to be fabricated in 1st-century Jewish culture where a woman's testimony was often not accepted.
  • Physicality of the Risen Jesus: To combat early notions that Jesus only rose spiritually, the Gospels emphasize a physical resurrection. Luke 24:39-43 describes Jesus eating fish and showing his "flesh and bones," while John 20:24-29 features Jesus inviting Thomas to touch his wounds.
  • Post-Resurrection Appearances: The Gospels record multiple appearances to individuals and groups, including Mary Magdalene, other women, the disciples in locked rooms, and on the road to Emmaus, designed to prove he was alive.
  • The Great Commission: The Gospel narratives culminate in Jesus appearing to his disciples to authorize their mission, cementing the resurrection as the foundation of the Christian faith.
Thematic Differences in the Narratives

While the message is consistent, the authors emphasize different aspects:
  • Matthew (28): Highlights the earthquake, the guarding of the tomb, and Jesus' appearance to the women.
  • Mark (16): Originally ends abruptly with the empty tomb and fearful women, though the longer ending (16:9-20) adds later,, traditional post-resurrection appearances.
  • Luke (24): Focuses on the road to Emmaus appearance and the physical, touchable nature of Jesus, emphasizing the fulfillment of Scripture.
  • John (20-21): Provides detailed accounts of Mary Magdalene at the tomb and the doubting Thomas scene, placing strong emphasis on the personal, intimate nature of the interactions.
Thanks again, ding, for helping me to reveal the wisdom of my God in giving the command to refrain from "the flesh" of unclean creatures that DO NOT RUMINATE by so generously demonstrating for all the world to see, live and in living color, the terrifying and deeply disturbing death, a curse, for setting that simple and easy to comply with instruction aside.
 
Thanks again, ding, for helping me to reveal the wisdom of my God in giving the command to refrain from "the flesh" of unclean creatures that DO NOT RUMINATE by so generously demonstrating for all the world to see, live and in living color, the terrifying and deeply disturbing death, a curse, for setting that simple and easy to comply with instruction aside.
You pervert God with your perverted interpretation of YOUR God's 22 commands against improper sexual practices.
 
Please share your perverted interpretation of these 22 commands from YOUR God.

6 None of you shall approach a close to have sexual intercourse. I am the LORD.

7* You shall not disgrace your father by having intercourse with your mother.c She is your own mother; you shall not have intercourse with her.

8You shall not have intercourse with your father’s wife, for that would be a disgrace to your father.

9You shall not have intercourse with your sister,* d your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born in your own household or born elsewhere.

10You shall not have intercourse with your son’s daughter or with your daughter’s daughter,* for that would be a disgrace to you.

11You shall not have intercourse with the daughter whom your father’s wife bore to him in his household,e since she, too, is your sister.

12You shall not have intercourse with your father’s sister,f since she is your father’s relative.

13You shall not have intercourse with your mother’s sister, since she is your mother’s relative.

14You shall not disgrace your father’s brother by having sexual relations with his wife,g since she, too, is your aunt.

15You shall not have intercourse with your daughter-in-law;* h she is your son’s wife; you shall not have intercourse with her.

16You shall not have intercourse with your brother’s wife;* i that would be a disgrace to your brother.

17You shall not have intercourse with a woman and also with her daughter, nor shall you marry and have intercourse with her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter;j they are related to her. This would be shameful.

18While your wife is still living you shall not marry her sister as her rival and have intercourse with her.k

19You shall not approach a woman to have intercourse with her while she is in her menstrual uncleanness.l

20You shall not have sexual relations with your neighbor’s wife,* m defiling yourself with her.

21n You shall not offer any of your offspring for immolation to Molech,* thus profaning the name of your God. I am the LORD.

22You shall not lie with a male as with a woman;o such a thing is an abomination.

23You shall not have sexual relations with an animal, defiling yourself with it; nor shall a woman set herself in front of an animal to mate with it; that is perverse.p
 
Please share your perverted interpretation of these 22 commands from YOUR God.
Sure.
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As soon as you admit that there was nothing supernatural about the multiplication of the loaves; the subject of the story wasn't about feeding people fish sandwiches out of thin air.

:popcorn:
 
Sure, as soon as you admit that there was nothing supernatural about the multiplication of the loaves. The subject of the story wasn't about feeding people fish sandwiches out of thin air.
No, you won't. Because you can't. Because these commands mean exactly what they say.

The Book of Leviticus is considered a, if not the, primary book of laws within the Bible. As the third book of the Pentateuch (Torah), it acts as a, or a, handbook of divine, for the ancient Israelites, focusing on priestly, purity, and, along with,. It primarily covers, including, , and,.

Key aspects of the book include:
  • Theocratic Code: It contains laws delivered by God to Moses, primarily for the Israelite community, covering, , and,.
  • Priestly Focus: It is named for the, the priestly class responsible for these rituals.
  • Holiness & Atonement:The central themes revolve around, or, with extensive instructions on and
    .
    • Structure: It covers, , , and instructions, along with,.
 
No, you won't. Because you can't. Because these commands mean exactly what they say.
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Sure.
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As soon as you admit that there was nothing supernatural about the multiplication of the loaves; the subject of the story wasn't about feeding people fish sandwiches out of thin air.

:popcorn:
You pervert God with your lies.

Laws regarding sexual relations in Leviticus (chapters 18 and 20) are generally interpreted as literal prohibitions against specific acts—particularly incest and, traditionally, male-male intercourse—designed to maintain ritual purity and distinguish Israelite practices from neighboring cultures. While some scholars argue the laws symbolize purity or prevent the blurring of gender roles, others suggest the Hebrew text focuses on preventing specific acts rather than defining inherent sexual orientations.

Key perspectives on whether these laws include:
  • Literal Prohibitions: The majority of commentators (conservative and liberal) agree that Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 prohibit sexual acts between men. These are often viewed in context with the surrounding incest laws, forming a code for moral and ceremonial behavior.
  • Symbolic/Purity Focus: Some interpretations suggest these laws are symbolic of maintaining "order" and preventing the confusion of roles (e.g., a male acting as a female). The term "abomination" (toevah) often refers to actions that break covenantal boundaries or ritually defile, rather than just immoral acts.
  • Cultural Context: The laws are understood as a means for the ancient Israelites to maintain a distinct identity, setting them apart from the practices of Egypt and Canaan.
 
The Romans allegedly did that assuming he even existed

do you ever read the transcript of their trial concocted by the jews paid for by them w/ a bag of silver ...

they claimed he was a jew and a messiah what a joke and undoubtedly a good reason they saw fit to crucify who repudiated judaism than deny their allegations, the religion of persecution and victimization - their phony commandments et al proven by their verdict.

oh, sorry - you must be one of them - home boy, try not to cry.
 
That's pretty vague. Can you be more specific on how you want me to act and what it is that I am doing today that I shouldn't?

to prove your religious sincerity stop breathing and do so till the heavens show their gratitude for those commandments you've been throwing around for the condemnation of one and all ... innocence not withstanding ever the christian bible.
 
Do you really feel Jesus Christ would support Trump and MAGA if alive today.
I have a hard time believing he would.
MAGA is the opposite of many of Jesus's key teachings.

  • Jesus’s call for humility and service over power and wealth.
  • His commands to love and care for outsiders and the disadvantaged
  • Jesus never sought political office or power and urged His followers to seek God’s kingdom rather than worldly rule.
  • His emphasis was on care, compassion, and justice for all people, especially the vulnerable.
  • He challenged religious and political leaders alike when they ignored mercy and righteousness
  • Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31)
  • “I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” (Matthew 25:35)
  • The Good Samaritan (Luke 10) centers moral duty on care for foreigners and enemies.
  • Jesus rejects earthly power, status, and domination (Matthew 20:25–28).
  • Jesus condemns deception and hypocrisy (Matthew 23).
  • Jesus repeatedly warns against wealth and neglect of the poor (Luke 12, Luke 16).
  • What mortal man does not realize we are all flawed and ask Jesus for forgiveness? Trump has said "Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?"
  • 'Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions'” (Luke 12:15).
"MAGA is the opposite of many of Jesus's key teachings."

MAGA, in My Belief, is a lie, & serves nothing more than to ""Pacify the Conservatives".

And No! With all that Trump has done , & continues to do, with No Repentance on his part,.... The Mesiah would not support Trump.

Matter of Fact,.... There is no Scriptural Record of The Messiah supporting any Political Leader.
 
why do i care what you think? :SMILEW~130:
That guy doesnt use facts and truth to win arguments. He is a disingenuous and intellectually dishonest debater. I dont listen to smart debaters who are also dishonest. If you dont have the honesty part, i have zero interest in you.

That guy will say whatever the **** he has to in order to win. People need to stop listening to ultra biased debaters who never acknowledge it when they are wrong. That shit is weak as ****.

Let me guess, you also think Brian Shapiro is great too? :laugh:
 
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You pervert God with your lies.
Listen ding, you agreed to hear MY rational explanation for the "miracle" of the multiplication of the loaves in a way that conforms to and is confirmed by reality. I provided that without adding subtracting or changing a single word. You failed to acknowledge or even take a stand on what I revealed about the "miracle" that was hidden from sight for millennia. Instead you started obsessing over sex again which only reveals your own pathetic aberrations..

My advice to you. Go **** yourself. You are a pusillanimous joke. All hat and no cattle.

As it is written;

No one whose balls have been crushed can become a member of the assembly of the Lord.

ITS THE LAW.
 
Listen ding, you agreed to hear MY rational explanation for the "miracle" of the multiplication of the loaves in a way that conforms to and is confirmed by reality. I provided that without adding subtracting or changing a single word. You failed to acknowledge or even take a stand on what I revealed about that "miracle" that had been hidden from sight for millennia. Instead you started obsessing over sex again.

My advice to you. Go **** yourself. You are a pusillanimous joke. All hat and no cattle.

As it is written;

No one whose balls have been crushed can become a member of the assembly of the Lord.

ITS THE LAW.
Your rationale is garbage. That's my point. You make up everything and nothing makes sense. You live in an imaginary world where YOUR God didn't command that men butt ******* men is an abomination. You are a joke.
 
So your position is that MY explanation for what actually happened during the miracle of the loaves and Jesus "feeding" of 5000 people makes no sense to you? Copra sanctum!

Thats a shame. You do have my condolences.
Your "explanation" is merely your attempt to explain away anything miraculous tied to Yeshua, the Son of God. You seem oddly obsessed with the idea that the Son of God is incapable of controlling the very creation He created.
 
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