Worst. Ranking. List. EVER!!!

[The Sage of Main Street]

FDR policies were looking to ease the suffering of the masses rather than look at how quickly he could get the banks on their feet

I will give FDR credit for trying.

FDR's failure being benevolent rather than rational (if you honestly believe he was motivated by benevolence). He should have helped the banks first. As heartless as that sounds, it would have helped the little guy the most. Over 9,000 banks closed during the depression. But, economic success in a realistic (read: capitalist) society requires strong financial institutions to provide capital for investment, which creates more jobs. The recovery was slowed because of his mistake.

He was a shitty president in my opinion, not because of this failure, but because he abused he office and acted like.......(dum dum DUUUUMMMM) at tyrant. Ignoring the two term tradition and court packing alone give him this distinction, but there are many more reasons.

Owners Aren't Earners

Saying that the rich create jobs is like saying that vampires create blood.

 

[Dim Bulb]

Abe is a tyrant? You're a very sick man. It also shows you know nothing about history. He kept the nation together. Better get used to your pussygrabber permanently holding down the bottom spot.

Lincoln saved the union (if you consider that a good thing) and used the slavery issue to maintain support for doing so. I will give him credit for ridding us of the unholy practice of slavery. Credit where credit is due.

At the same time, he was a motherfucker. He was a racist son of a bitch. He abused the fuck out of his power more than any other president (FDR, Reagan, Obama, and George W Bush are all tied for distant second, in my opinion). He used WAR to settle a dispute about the structure of the Union and the options of the separate states to remain or leave. Separate, independent states agreed to form a union. Those states had the sovereignty to enter into such a union. They also had the sovereignty to exit. FORCING them to stay in the union with WAR and CONQUEST wholly denied them that sovereignty. That would be somewhat similar to the EU going to war with the UK for Brexit, the U.S. warring with Canada if they were to decide to leave NAFTA, or China starting a war with the U.S. for leaving TPP.

It's okay to admit that a president who did good things was also a filthy, overreaching, murderous tyrant. I hold Reagan to the same standard and believe that he was ultimately a bad president, even though I think he did lots of good things and despite his being on my "team" politically (for the most part).

"Honest" Abe was a filthy tyrant (honest? ). If there were such a place as hell (there's not), he would be roasting there now and forever.

Gordon Gekko at Gettysburg

All you need to know about Lincoln is that he married a richgirl. Class-climbers are almost as bad as Preppies. The fact that the Republicans were in charge tells us that the Civil War was only about stealing the wealth of the South and using the freed slaves as grateful anti-union cheap labor.

I'm not disagreeing or anything but if I had a chance to marry a rich girl I'd have done it. What could be more American than upward mobility?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

An Ideology That Should Be Called "Selfism"

Only unpatriotic cowards oppose the draft. The volunteer army is so inadequate that it has to take Gayists, transJenners, and Moslem moles. It has to put women in MOSs where they are physically and emotionally not up to the job.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Historians make the bulk of their income from selling their books. The books rely on peer review and acceptance as valid accounts and narratives by other historians who review the work sentence by sentence, claim by claim and conclusion by the conclusion. It makes no difference in regard to how or by whom the reviewing historian is affiliated with. Any review or criticism will be peer reviews as well. Objective and provable facts rule in this arena.

Historical books are dependent on the book being accepted by colleges and universities. Controversial or books receiving critical and negative peer reviews do not get onto the text book or sometimes not even on the required reading list. The difference in book sale due to this procedure has an extreme effect on the income an author may receive from their books.

Objective and provable facts are not the problem. The commentary from historians placing an emphasis on the importance of certain events or their effects on other aspects of history and society is where we see oodles of underlying commie rhetoric favoring the goose-stepping left. If you don't see it, you are not objective.

What you are describing sounds like the perfect environment for pressuring authors into conformity with those conclusions and commentary of the established academia power structure, which is decidedly and indisputably leftist. Even at A&M (considered one of the most right-wing institutions in America) all of the history professors I encountered were unquestionably and admittedly leftists.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Owners Aren't Earners

Saying that the rich create jobs is like saying that vampires create blood.

WHAT?

Saying employers don't create jobs is like saying.....employers don't create jobs.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Abe is a tyrant? You're a very sick man. It also shows you know nothing about history. He kept the nation together. Better get used to your pussygrabber permanently holding down the bottom spot.

Lincoln saved the union (if you consider that a good thing) and used the slavery issue to maintain support for doing so. I will give him credit for ridding us of the unholy practice of slavery. Credit where credit is due.

At the same time, he was a motherfucker. He was a racist son of a bitch. He abused the fuck out of his power more than any other president (FDR, Reagan, Obama, and George W Bush are all tied for distant second, in my opinion). He used WAR to settle a dispute about the structure of the Union and the options of the separate states to remain or leave. Separate, independent states agreed to form a union. Those states had the sovereignty to enter into such a union. They also had the sovereignty to exit. FORCING them to stay in the union with WAR and CONQUEST wholly denied them that sovereignty. That would be somewhat similar to the EU going to war with the UK for Brexit, the U.S. warring with Canada if they were to decide to leave NAFTA, or China starting a war with the U.S. for leaving TPP.

It's okay to admit that a president who did good things was also a filthy, overreaching, murderous tyrant. I hold Reagan to the same standard and believe that he was ultimately a bad president, even though I think he did lots of good things and despite his being on my "team" politically (for the most part).

"Honest" Abe was a filthy tyrant (honest? ). If there were such a place as hell (there's not), he would be roasting there now and forever.

Gordon Gekko at Gettysburg

All you need to know about Lincoln is that he married a richgirl. Class-climbers are almost as bad as Preppies. The fact that the Republicans were in charge tells us that the Civil War was only about stealing the wealth of the South and using the freed slaves as grateful anti-union cheap labor.

I'm not disagreeing or anything but if I had a chance to marry a rich girl I'd have done it. What could be more American than upwarggwould hardly call bein

Survey: Historians rank Obama 12th best president

1. Abraham Lincoln
2. George Washington
3. Franklin Delano Roosevelt - always overrated
4. Teddy Roosevelt
5. Dwight Eisenhower
6. Harry Truman
7. Thomas Jefferson
8. John F. Kennedy
9. Ronald Reagan
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Woodrow Wilson
12. Barack Obama
13. James Monroe
14. James Polk
15. Bill Clinton
16. William McKinley
17. James Madison
18. Andrew Jackson
19. John Adams
20. George H.W. Bush
21. John Q. Adams
22. Ulysses Grant
23. Grover Cleveland
24. William Taft
25. Gerald Ford
26. Jimmy Carter
27. Calvin Coolidge - should be top 5
28. Richard Nixon
29. James Garfield
30. Benjamin Harrison
31. Zachary Taylor
32. Rutherford Hayes
33. George W. Bush
34. Martin Van Buren
35. Chester Arthur
36. Herbert Hoover
37. Millard Fillmore
38. William Harrison
39. John Tyler
40. Warren Harding
41. Franklin Pierce
42. Andrew Johnson
43. James Buchanan

Hilarious list. #1 gets hundreds of thousands of Americans killed and outlawed slavery. #3 not only reinstituted slavery, he enslaved American citizens and sent them overseas to use as cannon fodder in wars that has absolutely nothing to do with US national security. And got hundreds of thousands of Americans killed.

Whoever made that list must have some sort of virulent hatred of Americans.

World War ll had everything to do with National Security. Germany was demanding a cessation of trade between the US and Europe, particularly Great Britain. And it was more than just a demand. Before the war even began German submarines were attacking ships carrying US exports to Great Britain. Even US Naval shipps were attacked with great loss of US Naval personnel on the attacked Naval ships. US Navy sailors were being sent to the bottom of the ocean. All this in the middle of the Great Depression. I suppose that in your way of thinking a foreign power sinking US Navy ships was not a threat to National Security.

In regards to the other side of the world, Japan was posing a threat to American interest and security in their part of the world. Not only did they pose these threats to American ports and military post, they posed a threat to the Russians on the Chinese Russian border and were preparing for an escalation of war which would cause the Russians to respond and hence, greatly weaken their ability to help defeat Germany.

Again, your analysis lacks common sense if you think the Japanese threat towards trade and more importantly, the threat to annihilate the US military installations at places like the Philipines was not a National Security threat is a great distortion. and fantasy.

Japan was steadily continuing to build their already huge Navel forces specifically for the purpose of conducting war with the US. Thankfully, FDR prepared for the wars with Germany and Japan by supporting development of the weapons of war that were needed to defeat those two superpowers.

One of the things FDR is not given proper credit for is his experience and knowledge gained as Assistan Secretary of the Nave during WW l. He learned how to develop new advanced weapons of war. This he did quietly and without fanfare so that when the war came, the industrial might of America was able to immediately shift into high gear to produce the weapons that would win the war. Everything from the M-I Garrand to modern aircraft carriers, bombers to fighter aircraft, etc., were tooled and being produced or prepared for production when they were needed.

WOW! You Democrat apologists and slavery advocates sure do make a lot of off-the-wall excuses for the tyrant, FDR. Great Britain and Germany were at war. The US should have stayed neutral because Germany was not a threat to the USA. Plain and simple. Instead they started arming one side.

"I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again: Your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars." ~ 10/30/1940 Quoted from FDR during his 1940 presidential campaign.

Of course if the American people knew what he was doing behind the scenes and what he was planning, to enslave them and send them to die overseas as cannon fodder by the hundreds of thousands he would have lost the election.

FDR was a fucking war pig.



FDR was the worst US president in history.

History revisionism at its finest.

You jackasses don't know jack shit about history, otherwise you wouldn't vote for the jackass party.

Where the HeirHeads Had Their Heads, There Will Be Only Air

Preppies and their class-climbing boytoys better wise up and learn the history of the French Revolution.

 

[Camp]

Historians make the bulk of their income from selling their books. The books rely on peer review and acceptance as valid accounts and narratives by other historians who review the work sentence by sentence, claim by claim and conclusion by the conclusion. It makes no difference in regard to how or by whom the reviewing historian is affiliated with. Any review or criticism will be peer reviews as well. Objective and provable facts rule in this arena.

Historical books are dependent on the book being accepted by colleges and universities. Controversial or books receiving critical and negative peer reviews do not get onto the text book or sometimes not even on the required reading list. The difference in book sale due to this procedure has an extreme effect on the income an author may receive from their books.

Objective and provable facts are not the problem. The commentary from historians placing an emphasis on the importance of certain events or their effects on other aspects of history and society is where we see oodles of underlying commie rhetoric favoring the goose-stepping left. If you don't see it, you are not objective.

What you are describing sounds like the perfect environment for pressuring authors into conformity with those conclusions and commentary of the established academia power structure, which is decidedly and indisputably leftist. Even at A&M (considered one of the most right-wing institutions in America) all of the history professors I encountered were unquestionably and admittedly leftists.

Thank you for the thoughtful and intellectual post you responded to me with. While I may find some faults and criticisms of it I appreciate it when posters posts are able to challenge my own thoughts and opinions with academic and reasonable opinions. It is much better appreciated than the crude insult responses often dished out by folks who lack any knowledge of a subject.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Preppies and their class-climbing boytoys better wise up and learn the history of the French Revolution.

Completely different issues and circumstances, but nobody in America should be afraid of the communist revolution here. We still have guns and know how to use them.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Owners Aren't Earners

Saying that the rich create jobs is like saying that vampires create blood.

WHAT?

Saying employers don't create jobs is like saying.....employers don't create jobs.

You know better than that. But you are afraid that people are waking up to the fact that the private sector is a carbon copy of government tyranny. Populists hate the guts of both Commies and Cappies.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Thank you for the thoughtful and intellectual post you responded to me with. While I may find some faults and criticisms of it I appreciate it when posters posts are able to challenge my own thoughts and opinions with academic and reasonable opinions. It is much better appreciated than the crude insult responses often dished out by folks who lack any knowledge of a subject.

Amen. I find that most of the time, there is very little that posters will disagree on, but they can't get past all the smack talking and pooh flinging to actually ask themselves if the really disagree. The "conversation" ends up being on the level of sports rivals smack talking each other, and the teams are Rs and Ds. I'm not saying it's not fun, but it is nice to read a response that I may completely disagree with, but that I can respect because it was thoughtful and not full of deflection onto the faults of the prior administration or the current one. I have seen it called "whataboutism" on other sites.

Thanks for the comments and kind words.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Hmmm, wonder how he feels being below the guy who said this,


President B. Lyndon Johnson once said, "I'll have those ******* voting Democratic for 200 years".

Or this



“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.”


And many many more and the democrat party is starting to have to defend it. Wonder if LBJ would consider Half Black Jesus as "an uppity ******"?

There is talk and there are deeds.

Lyndon Johnson's policies greatly benefited the back people, that counts for more than how he rationalized them to...whoever it is he was speaking to.

You misunderstand, LBJ did exactly what you democrats wanted him to do, it here is more.



President Truman’s civil rights program “is a farce and a sham—an effort to set up a police state in the guise of liberty. I am opposed to that program. I have voted against the so-called poll tax repeal bill ... I have voted against the so-called anti-lynching bill.”
— Rep. Lyndon B. Johnson (D., Texas), 1948, U.S. Senator, 1949-61, Senate Majority Leader, 1955-61, President, 1963-69

This is a Kennedy gem,

“I did not lie awake at night worrying about the problems of Negroes.”
— Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy


Mm, basically LBJ did what the party who invented the Klan wanted and told blacks what they wanted to hear all these years. And these are who you retards call heros. I'm thinking we need to be removing statues.

Ok I will again repeat - deeds count for more than words.

And i agreed. He got his voting block and kept blacks under democrat heel. If it was so good what he did why the fuck doesntheir life suck so bad now? You changing the story ?

Don't know what you are talking about, their life has been improved, I never said otherwise.

How has their life improved? They went from servitude of labor to servitude of government for welfare checks. They are up to what now? 80% unwed birth rates? Fatherless homes, welfare moms and government dependency. What's better?

 

[rightwinger]

There is talk and there are deeds.

Lyndon Johnson's policies greatly benefited the back people, that counts for more than how he rationalized them to...whoever it is he was speaking to.

You misunderstand, LBJ did exactly what you democrats wanted him to do, it here is more.



President Truman’s civil rights program “is a farce and a sham—an effort to set up a police state in the guise of liberty. I am opposed to that program. I have voted against the so-called poll tax repeal bill ... I have voted against the so-called anti-lynching bill.”
— Rep. Lyndon B. Johnson (D., Texas), 1948, U.S. Senator, 1949-61, Senate Majority Leader, 1955-61, President, 1963-69

This is a Kennedy gem,

“I did not lie awake at night worrying about the problems of Negroes.”
— Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy


Mm, basically LBJ did what the party who invented the Klan wanted and told blacks what they wanted to hear all these years. And these are who you retards call heros. I'm thinking we need to be removing statues.

Ok I will again repeat - deeds count for more than words.

And i agreed. He got his voting block and kept blacks under democrat heel. If it was so good what he did why the fuck doesntheir life suck so bad now? You changing the story ?

Don't know what you are talking about, their life has been improved, I never said otherwise.

How has their life improved? They went from servitude of labor to servitude of government for welfare checks. They are up to what now? 80% unwed birth rates? Fatherless homes, welfare moms and government dependency. What's better?

You have little perception of what true poverty was before 1960. No electricity, no running water, shoes are a luxury

LBJ knew .....he grew up in it

 

[Crixus]

You misunderstand, LBJ did exactly what you democrats wanted him to do, it here is more.



President Truman’s civil rights program “is a farce and a sham—an effort to set up a police state in the guise of liberty. I am opposed to that program. I have voted against the so-called poll tax repeal bill ... I have voted against the so-called anti-lynching bill.”
— Rep. Lyndon B. Johnson (D., Texas), 1948, U.S. Senator, 1949-61, Senate Majority Leader, 1955-61, President, 1963-69

This is a Kennedy gem,

“I did not lie awake at night worrying about the problems of Negroes.”
— Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy


Mm, basically LBJ did what the party who invented the Klan wanted and told blacks what they wanted to hear all these years. And these are who you retards call heros. I'm thinking we need to be removing statues.

Ok I will again repeat - deeds count for more than words.

And i agreed. He got his voting block and kept blacks under democrat heel. If it was so good what he did why the fuck doesntheir life suck so bad now? You changing the story ?

Don't know what you are talking about, their life has been improved, I never said otherwise.

How has their life improved? They went from servitude of labor to servitude of government for welfare checks. They are up to what now? 80% unwed birth rates? Fatherless homes, welfare moms and government dependency. What's better?

You have little perception of what true poverty was before 1960. No electricity, no running water, shoes are a luxury

LBJ knew .....he grew up in it

So?

 

[rightwinger]

Ok I will again repeat - deeds count for more than words.

And i agreed. He got his voting block and kept blacks under democrat heel. If it was so good what he did why the fuck doesntheir life suck so bad now? You changing the story ?

Don't know what you are talking about, their life has been improved, I never said otherwise.

How has their life improved? They went from servitude of labor to servitude of government for welfare checks. They are up to what now? 80% unwed birth rates? Fatherless homes, welfare moms and government dependency. What's better?

You have little perception of what true poverty was before 1960. No electricity, no running water, shoes are a luxury

LBJ knew .....he grew up in it

So?

Clueless

 

[eagle7_31]

Survey: Historians rank Obama 12th best president

1. Abraham Lincoln
2. George Washington
3. Franklin Delano Roosevelt - always overrated
4. Teddy Roosevelt
5. Dwight Eisenhower
6. Harry Truman
7. Thomas Jefferson
8. John F. Kennedy
9. Ronald Reagan
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Woodrow Wilson
12. Barack Obama
13. James Monroe
14. James Polk
15. Bill Clinton
16. William McKinley
17. James Madison
18. Andrew Jackson
19. John Adams
20. George H.W. Bush
21. John Q. Adams
22. Ulysses Grant
23. Grover Cleveland
24. William Taft
25. Gerald Ford
26. Jimmy Carter
27. Calvin Coolidge - should be top 5
28. Richard Nixon
29. James Garfield
30. Benjamin Harrison
31. Zachary Taylor
32. Rutherford Hayes
33. George W. Bush
34. Martin Van Buren
35. Chester Arthur
36. Herbert Hoover
37. Millard Fillmore
38. William Harrison
39. John Tyler
40. Warren Harding
41. Franklin Pierce
42. Andrew Johnson
43. James Buchanan

Hayes and Coolidge should be higher.

 

[Lewdog]

Quite funny that William Henry Harrison was only a President for a month before he died, yet there are Presidents below him on the list.

Neat fact is, William Henry Harrison was one of the few Presidents that were not either lifetime politicians or businessmen, he was a doctor, but wouldn't wear a coat while giving a long inauguration speech that gave him pneumonia, which killed him.

 

[Darkwind]

What historians?

This particular panel of historians consisted of 91 historians selected and organized by C-Span. The metrics consisted of judging each President on a scale using ten "leadership" attributes. Most of these historian panels/groups consist of significantly large numbers of participants and include a wide range of historians of differing leanings and political influences.
This is only the third group and rating done by C-Span. To have genuine confidence in accuracy other ratings by other groups need to be compared.

Right off the top, putting Obama anywhere near that high destroys any confidence in the accuracy of the opinions. What exactly did he do, other than create domestic and international chaos?

"Commanding moral authority"? How insulting.

He destroyed healthcare in America. That has to count for something, right?

Healthcare in America has not been destroyed. It has been greatly improved. The problems with todays healthcae could be resolved in large part if the Congress would do its job and make the needed changes. Big pharma is a major problem. Answer the question as to why it is unlawful and illegal for Medicare and Medicaid to negotiate with big pharma for better drug prices. Those are two enormous users of big pharma, yet our Congress refuses to repeal that dopey law.

Step carefully away from the crack pipe. Now, dial 1-800-Hel-pMe1

 

[rightwinger]

Quite funny that William Henry Harrison was only a President for a month before he died, yet there are Presidents below him on the list.

Neat fact is, William Henry Harrison was one of the few Presidents that were not either lifetime politicians or businessmen, he was a doctor, but wouldn't wear a coat while giving a long inauguration speech that gave him pneumonia, which killed him.

I have trouble putting W H Harrison on the list at all
He should just be marked NA

 

[Kosh]

Survey: Historians rank Obama 12th best president

1. Abraham Lincoln
2. George Washington
3. Franklin Delano Roosevelt - always overrated
4. Teddy Roosevelt
5. Dwight Eisenhower
6. Harry Truman
7. Thomas Jefferson
8. John F. Kennedy
9. Ronald Reagan
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Woodrow Wilson
12. Barack Obama
13. James Monroe
14. James Polk
15. Bill Clinton
16. William McKinley
17. James Madison
18. Andrew Jackson
19. John Adams
20. George H.W. Bush
21. John Q. Adams
22. Ulysses Grant
23. Grover Cleveland
24. William Taft
25. Gerald Ford
26. Jimmy Carter
27. Calvin Coolidge - should be top 5
28. Richard Nixon
29. James Garfield
30. Benjamin Harrison
31. Zachary Taylor
32. Rutherford Hayes
33. George W. Bush
34. Martin Van Buren
35. Chester Arthur
36. Herbert Hoover
37. Millard Fillmore
38. William Harrison
39. John Tyler
40. Warren Harding
41. Franklin Pierce
42. Andrew Johnson
43. James Buchanan

Good list....I would expect Trump to fall in somewhere after Warren G Harding
Obama should eventually climb to the top ten

Yes the far left celebrates that Obama did away with "Due Process"..

 

[Freewill]

1. Abraham Lincoln - No brainer...saved the country and created the UNITED States
2. George Washington- Father of our country but did not accomplish much as President
3. Franklin Delano Roosevelt - Made the US a modern Democracy and global Superpower
4. Teddy Roosevelt- The first modern President, gave us global reach
5. Dwight Eisenhower- Eight years of prosperity and National Hwy System
6. Harry Truman- Dropped the bomb, saved Europe, Korean War
7. Thomas Jefferson- Louisiana Purchase
8. John F. Kennedy- Overrated, did not accomplish much in three years
9. Ronald Reagan- Will drop as the impact of his economic policies set in
10. Lyndon Johnson- Great on social programs, blundered in Vietnam
11. Woodrow Wilson- WWI, League of Nations, horrible on Civil Rights
12. Barack Obama - Prevented a depression, Obamacare
13. James Monroe- Overrated as President, average at best
14. James Polk- Best of his era
15. Bill Clinton- Booming economy, relative peace......should rise
16. William McKinley- No idea why he is this high. Best thing is he gave us Teddy R
17. James Madison- Almost lost the country in 1812 in a stupid war
18. Andrew Jackson- Dropping on the list
19. John Adams- Great mind, founding father, not much of a President
20. George H.W. Bush- Average President, calm leadership, liberated Kuwait
21. John Q. Adams- Smartest President, not very good at it
22. Ulysses Grant- Disaster, shouldn't be this high
23. Grover Cleveland- Why this high?
24. William Taft- Teddy Roosevelt should have taken another term
25. Gerald Ford- Powerless after Watergate and Pardon
26. Jimmy Carter- Nice man, poorly suited for the job
27. Calvin Coolidge - caused the Great Depression
28. Richard Nixon- Knew the job better than most presidents, emotionally unfit to be President
29. James Garfield- shot
30. Benjamin Harrison
31. Zachary Taylor
32. Rutherford Hayes
33. George W. Bush- Worst modern President, 9-11, two wars and a collapsed economy
34. Martin Van Buren
35. Chester Arthur
36. Herbert Hoover- took the blame for a Depression started by Harding and Coolidge
37. Millard Fillmore
38. William Harrison- Only lasted 30 days, not much to evaluate
39. John Tyler
40. Warren Harding- The Donald Trump of his day. Ill suited for the job
41. Franklin Pierce- No interest in being President
42. Andrew Johnson- Botched reconstruction, could not get along with either party
43. James Buchanan- brought us the Civil War

Bill Clinton should be 43. He took the greatest economic expansion in US history, started by Reagan into recession. He passed the free trade laws that were any thing but free. His ME policy lead to 9/11. He is by far the worse president in my life time.

Obama? what depression? The one that the left predicts but never happened? All to cover for Obama creating more debt then any all the presidents before him? And the racial discord that Obama fostered should mean he moves down the list instead of up. His Syrian/Lybian policy lead to what Hillary called the greatest humanitarian crisis since WW2 (FDR).

Just saying that those on the list will move in the future tells you that the list is subjective not objective. As if there were any objective way to rate presidents.

The way I rate the presidents of my l life time is how they made the country feel about their country. In that case Reagan is number one, Eisenhower, JFK, FDR, Clinton/Bush/Bush/Obama, Nixo (after Watergate, 2 prior) and finally "malaise" Carter.