Updated Presidents ranking

[Harry Dresden]

Fascism is a defining character of far-right groups. Which is what most of the Republican party is now. What a bunch of freaks, they don't even know who they are and what they represent.

the democrats do one aspect of fascism pretty good themselves....forcible suppression of opposition....we have witnessed that for a few years now....

 

[Stann]

the democrats do one aspect of fascism pretty good themselves....forcible suppression of opposition....we have witnessed that for a few years now....

Wow ! You just described the republicans to a tee. They love to ridicule and attempt to shout down Democrats every chance they get. Why do they want to suppress women's right to abortion, why are they concerned about gay rights, Why all the fuss about the tiny minority that identify as transgender ? Control / power, they want it, they seem to need it. That's bending the laws of a free nation.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Wow ! You just described the republicans to a tee. They love to ridicule and attempt to shout down Democrats every chance they get. Why do they want to suppress women's right to abortion, why are they concerned about gay rights, Why all the fuss about the tiny minority that identify as transgender ? Control / power, they want it, they seem to need it. That's bending the laws of a free nation.

were is the forcible suppression with those you mentioned?....covid was a example of forcible suppression by the democrats....

 

[Stann]

were is the forcible suppression with those you mentioned?....covid was a example of forcible suppression by the democrats....

So you apply public health standards to the democratic party. How silly, those laws apply to everyone, even non-citizens residing in the U.S. That means even lowly republicans aren't exempt, even if they believe they are above the law.

 

[Rust_Cohle]

Notice how criminal trump is almost at the bottom of the list, while President Obama is at the top 10 in history...

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HISTORIANS SURVEY RESULTS CATEGORY​

TOTAL SCORES/OVERALL RANKINGS​

President	2021 Final Score	Overall Rankings
2021	2017	2009	2000
Abraham Lincoln	897	1	1	1	1
George Washington	851	2	2	2	3
Franklin D. Roosevelt	841	3	3	3	2
Theodore Roosevelt	785	4	4	4	4
Dwight D. Eisenhower	734	5	5	8	9
Harry S. Truman	713	6	6	5	5
Thomas Jefferson	704	7	7	7	7
John F. Kennedy	699	8	8	6	8
Ronald Reagan	681	9	9	10	11
Barack Obama	664	10	12	NA	NA
Lyndon B. Johnson	654	11	10	11	10
James Monroe	643	12	13	15	14
Woodrow Wilson	617	13	11	9	6
William McKinley	612	14	16	16	15
John Adams	609	15	19	17	16
James Madison	604	16	17	20	18
John Quincy Adams	603	17	21	19	19
James K. Polk	599	18	14	12	12
William J. Clinton	594	19	15	14	21
Ulysses S. Grant	590	20	22	23	33
George H. W. Bush	585	21	20	18	20
Andrew Jackson	568	22	18	13	13
William Howard Taft	543	23	24	24	24
Calvin Coolidge	535	24	26	26	27
Grover Cleveland	523	25	23	21	17
Jimmy Carter	506	26	27	25	22
James A. Garfield	506	27	29	28	29
Gerald R. Ford	498	28	25	22	23
George W. Bush	495	29	33	36	NA
Chester A. Arthur	472	30	35	32	32
Richard M. Nixon	464	31	28	27	26
Benjamin Harrison	462	32	30	30	31
Rutherford B. Hayes	456	33	31	33	25
Martin Van Buren	455	34	34	31	30
Zachary Taylor	449	35	32	29	28
Herbert Hoover	396	36	36	34	34
Warren G. Harding	388	37	40	38	38
Millard Fillmore	378	38	37	37	35
John Tyler	354	39	39	35	36
William Henry Harrison	354	40	38	39	37
Donald J. Trump	312	41	NA	NA	NA
Franklin Pierce	312	42	41	40	39
Andrew Johnson	230	43	42	41	40
James Buchanan	227	44	43	42	41

What a crock of shit. Obama is nowhere near that high neither is G.W. Bush

 

[Harry Dresden]

So you apply public health standards to the democratic party. How silly, those laws apply to everyone, even non-citizens residing in the U.S. That means even lowly republicans aren't exempt, even if they believe they are above the law.

was that forcible suppression or not?....

 

[Stann]

What a crock of shit. Obama is nowhere near that high neither is G.W. Bush

Lucky you are not a qualified historian to judge the records. That would be a terrible joke.

 

[Rust_Cohle]

Lucky you are not a qualified historian to judge the records. That would be a terrible joke.

I actually am a historian. You really think G.W. Bush should be that high?

 

[Stann]

I actually am a historian. You really think G.W. Bush should be that high?

Agreed on that point. Also Lyndon Banes Johnson doesn't deserve to be listed as high either, but that's just my opinion. I am not an expert.

was that forcible opposition or not?....

People often brag about their rights, along with rights their are obligations / duties citizens mist abide by and public health safety protocols is one of those responsibilities. That's just one of the flip sides to put freedoms we all enjoy.

 

[Unkotare]

Indicted, twice impeached, disgraced thug donald trump, just insured his position as the worst ever..

Your kangaroo will fail.

 

[Stann]

Your kangaroo will fail.

Actually trump looks more like an orangutan and he's always failed big time.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Agreed on that point. Also Lyndon Banes Johnson doesn't deserve to be listed as high either, but that's just my opinion. I am not an expert.

People often brag about their rights, along with rights their are obligations / duties citizens mist abide by and public health safety protocols is one of those responsibilities. That's just one of the flip sides to put freedoms we all enjoy.

so the democrats are on record of using force to enforce a policy...like people losing jobs for not getting vaccinated....now were was that forcible suppression with the republicans with those things you mentioned Stann?.........

 

[Stann]

so the democrats are on record of using force to enforce a policy...like people losing jobs for not getting vaccinated....now were was that forcible suppression with the republicans with those things you mentioned Stann?.........

The law forces everyone to do things they don't always want. And those restrictions were imposed nation-wide ( as is necessary in dealing with a pandemic ) with democratic and republican support. So you're trying to compare apples and oranges and I'm not playing that stupid game.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The law forces everyone to do things they don't always want. And those restrictions were imposed nation-wide ( as is necessary in dealing with a pandemic ) with democratic and republican support. So you're trying to compare apples and oranges and I'm not playing that stupid game.

stan is this an example of forcible suppression of opposition or not?.....

 

[Unkotare]

Actually trump looks more like an orangutan and he's always failed big time.

Really? How did the two bullshit impeachments work out for the democrats?

 

[Stann]

stan is this an example of forcible suppression of opposition or not?.....

Like I said it's not a democratic or republican statute, it's US. Law. See Federal Public Health Service Act. If trump did not do away with the early warning panel on pandemics we could have done much better with this pandemic And once again I'm not playing your stupid blame game. It began working when trump was on charge ( too bad he screwed it up ).

 

[Harry Dresden]

Like I said it's not a democratic or republican statute, it's US. Law. See Federal Public Health Service Act. If trump did not do away with the early warning panel on pandemics we could have done much better with this pandemic And once again I'm not playing your stupid blame game. It began working when trump was on charge ( too bad he screwed it up ).

by you not answering yes or no just tells me you know it was an example of forceful suppression but for some strange reason you wont admit it.....

 

[Rust_Cohle]

Agreed on that point. Also Lyndon Banes Johnson doesn't deserve to be listed as high either, but that's just my opinion. I am not an expert.

People often brag about their rights, along with rights their are obligations / duties citizens mist abide by and public health safety protocols is one of those responsibilities. That's just one of the flip sides to put freedoms we all enjoy.

I agree with you their too LBJ was a racist POS

 

[Stann]

by you not answering yes or no just tells me you know it was an example of forceful suppression but for some strange reason you wont admit it.....

Because it is not a yes or no question. Yes trump appropriately began public health measures which he almost immediately disagreed with in public. The follow-through became political, just like you're trying to make the proper response to a pandemic political. It is not !

 

[Harry Dresden]

Because it is not a yes or no question. Yes trump appropriately began public health measures which he almost immediately disagreed with in public. The follow-through became political, just like you're trying to make the proper response to a pandemic political. It is not !

yes it is stan....it either was or it wasnt a forceful suppression by our govt against a lot of its citizens....you are the one trying to make it political by using that as your excuse to not answer...