Women in the military....the democrats just can't let standards be standards.....

[candycorn]

Liberals will just keep changing the rules till they win

99.99999% of women have no place in combat

And the .000001% that can function as soldiers in the field are simply not worth the trouble they cause

306-232. We already won.

 

[MarcATL]

OP, did you serve?

 

[Lysistrata]

Our enemies conscript women to do whatever they are capable of.

The highest-scoring sniper in the Russian military in WWII was a woman. Dr. Ruth, orphaned in the Holocaust, was trained as a scout and sniper with the Haganah, although she has said that she never killed anyone (she was critically wounded by an exploding shell and put out of action), but that she knows how to throw grenades and shoot. She's less than five feet tall. It's not one's size that counts; it's guts, heart, and dedication. As one female musician wrote, we can get into small places. Nowadays, many warfare activities involve understanding technology, being precise, and pressing buttons, as in flying a fighter jet. Even if a grunt on the ground, women have endurance. Women go through the hardships of pregnancy and childbirth, whereas some men faint even being in the same room with a woman giving birth, even if it giving birth to his own child.

Two WWII stories I've read about: a married couple in the resistance got into a firefight with Nazis. The wife was badly wounded. She told her husband to shoot her so she died and get the hell out there. This was written by her husband, who lived to marry again and have children and was published in Sunday Parade magazine. The second, from the BBC, is the story of three teenage Dutch girls who arranged dates in the forest with nazi officers. These officers never walked out of the forest. I have heard this process referred to as "discrete personnel removal."

 

[Moonglow]

Our enemies conscript women to do whatever they are capable of.

If these so called conservatives were running the show only white boys could be real soldiers.

 

[konradv]

When we told people that allowing women to be in the military, in particular the combat arms, that it would end up changing the physical fitness standards required to be a soldier, and marine, you told us that wouldn't happen.....

It is about to happen....

Left wingers in our government can't stand the fact that women cannot meet the physical fitness standards....so now they want to change them...

We told you this would happen.....now that they know women can't meet the same standard, how long before they lower the standards?

Our enemies are laughing....

The United States Army is reportedly considering doing away with its new “gender-neutral physical test” after test results showed that the majority of women failed while approximately 90 percent of men passed. Officials are reportedly considering having different evaluation categories for men and women due to the physiological differences between the two.

“Research showed that the Army Combat Fitness Test [ACFT], which is the same for male and female soldiers, was leading to lower results for women with a knock-on effect for promotions,” The Telegraph reported. “An early Pentagon study showed that women were failing the ACFT at a rate of 65 per cent, while only 10 percent of men did.”


A report from last fall found that 54 percent of women failed the test while only 7 percent of men failed it.

The report said that Congress, which is controlled by the Democrats, stopped the new program from being implemented and the Army is reviewing whether it is fair. Congress does not want the test as it is current constructed to factor into opportunities for advancement, the report said.

U.S. Army Considers Reversing ‘Gender-Neutral Physical Test’ After Majority Of Women Fail To Keep Up With Men: Report | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

Most military jobs don't require going over-the-top, so...

 

[Mac-7]

soldiers that can`t control their teenage hormones that "cause" the trouble. I watched it in the steel mill its when they started hiring women in the mid-70s.

That’s how normal heathy males and females react to each other

maybe liberals plan to solve that problem with the ongoing attempt to turn boys into Pajama Boy and girls into male-hating butches

But we are still far away from a one gender society

 

[MeBelle]

OP, did you serve?

Did you serve MarcATL ?

Cool troll post!

 

[Mac-7]

It is a good thing the Russians didn’t believe that. Because they had women combat pilots, snipers, tankers, and infantrymen. That is partly how they stopped the German Advance in World War II. Without the women, the Russians might have lost and we would have lost the war too.

I dont think the soviets used women in combat because they needed them but rather as a reflection of the radical new marxist society they were creating

nor do we know how many soviet female soldiers were raped or how many otherwise good male soldiers were executed for raping their fellow soldiers

again, women cause more problems in combat than they are worth

 

[22lcidw]

Liberals will just keep changing the rules till they win

99.99999% of women have no place in combat

And the .000001% that can function as soldiers in the field are simply not worth the trouble they cause

It is a good thing the Russians didn’t believe that. Because they had women combat pilots, snipers, tankers, and infantrymen. That is partly how they stopped the German Advance in World War II. Without the women, the Russians might have lost and we would have lost the war too.

Well. Russians are different than Americans. Stronger and tougher or something.

The Israeli Army uses women in similar combat roles. But they are Jews and everyone knows Jews are God’s Chosen so of course the women would be tougher.

But one quick question. How much upper body strength does a woman need to pull a trigger?

Lyudmila Pavlichenko - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

She killed more than 300 physically superior men. I wonder how many she would have killed if she had greater upper body strength?

Russians and Chinese are willing to see many killed. And have. Americans are not that way. There are great women in the military. There are women who stay in shape. But only a small percentage can do the things of a male in ground support. It is bad enough soldiers die by incompetence. Another reason to die is being added. We are streamlining wars that will be fought with missiles and end with missiles with possible total destruction. We will lose much of our hardware in a first wave attack. We are not like we were in WW 2 where we could produce hardware quickly. China is in that position. And they were brazen enough to release a virus.

 

[SavannahMann]

It is a good thing the Russians didn’t believe that. Because they had women combat pilots, snipers, tankers, and infantrymen. That is partly how they stopped the German Advance in World War II. Without the women, the Russians might have lost and we would have lost the war too.

I dont think the soviets used women in combat because they needed them but rather as a reflection of the radical new marxist society they were creating

nor do we know how many soviet female soldiers were raped or how many otherwise good male soldiers were executed for raping their fellow soldiers

again, women cause more problems in combat than they are worth

The Histories say the Russians needed them. And since the penalty for any offense in the Soviet era was death or punishment battalion where you got the honor of running through minefields to clear them. I’d say that the women were not nearly as vulnerable as you would want to believe.

 

[freyasman]

I knew a couple hardcore, bad bitches in the service, but even they weren't able to hang with an infantry element for long. The one I knew best, good friend of mine, a medic, was hard as fuck but her body couldn't tolerate the abuse she put it through trying to hang with us. She was medically retired for back injuries after serving 11 years, and later killed.

It's not just about getting into shape, lifting something once, or running fast with zero gear on, etc.; things like durability and the ability to endure punishment, and recover quickly all matter. How much weight you can carry on you and keep moving, and for how long, are pretty fucking important too.

And frankly, trying to keep a 19 year old focused on mission instead of on pussy was a headache I and most other grunt NCOs just didn't need; we had enough on our plate as it was.

 

[Canon Shooter]

At least 25% of women serving in the U.S. military have been sexually assaulted, and up to 80% have been sexually harassed. A 2011 report found that women in the U.S. military were more likely to be raped by fellow soldiers than they were to be killed in combat.
Sexual assault in the United States military - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Sexual_assault_in_the_United_...

That's unfortunate, but it has absolutely nothing to do with physical readiness standards...

Sure it does.

I'm sure you'll be able to explain how someone being able to run a mile and a half in 13 minutes has anything to do with sexual harassment...

 

[Mac-7]

The Histories say the Russians needed them

I can imagine the wild leftwing history you are referring to

dont forget the soviets were the progressives of their day

 

[SavannahMann]

The Histories say the Russians needed them

I can imagine the wild leftwing history you are referring to

dont forget the soviets were the progressives of their day

Several Histories. From several sources. Why did the German Invasion fail? They had superior tactics, weapons, and training. They could have, should have won. The flaw was that they were operating on a number of erroneous assumptions.

First. The numbers of soldiers they were facing. Second the willingness to fight to the end of those soldiers. Third, the ability of the Soviets to endure and continue fighting. Fourth, the women.

There were others. But those assumptions were the death of the greatest Army of the Era. Well trained and equipped soldiers. Competently commanded with revolutionary tactics.

It is interesting to note that even at the end, when Germany was putting schoolboys in uniform and sending them out to fight, they never used the women. They felt as you did and lost a huge opportunity to survive. 12 year old boys were fine. Adult women were not.

But men. Manly men. Those are what we want. Men like the Spartans. Perfect examples of courage and physical fitness. Of course the Spartans had enforced homosexuality. But we will pretend that is not the point.

List of female Heroes of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Guards bomber regiment. They were called the Night Witches. The Germans hated them.

These women flying old planes would start their attack run by cutting the engine off. They glided in silently and only restarted the engine after dropping their bombs. This gave the Germans no warning.

If the engine did not start. They died. If the Germans got them they died. The planes were slow.

There are other examples in history. Since it was not covered in Junior High you never bothered to learn it.

 

[LuckyDuck]

When we told people that allowing women to be in the military, in particular the combat arms, that it would end up changing the physical fitness standards required to be a soldier, and marine, you told us that wouldn't happen.....

It is about to happen....

Left wingers in our government can't stand the fact that women cannot meet the physical fitness standards....so now they want to change them...

We told you this would happen.....now that they know women can't meet the same standard, how long before they lower the standards?

Our enemies are laughing....

The United States Army is reportedly considering doing away with its new “gender-neutral physical test” after test results showed that the majority of women failed while approximately 90 percent of men passed. Officials are reportedly considering having different evaluation categories for men and women due to the physiological differences between the two.

“Research showed that the Army Combat Fitness Test [ACFT], which is the same for male and female soldiers, was leading to lower results for women with a knock-on effect for promotions,” The Telegraph reported. “An early Pentagon study showed that women were failing the ACFT at a rate of 65 per cent, while only 10 percent of men did.”


A report from last fall found that 54 percent of women failed the test while only 7 percent of men failed it.

The report said that Congress, which is controlled by the Democrats, stopped the new program from being implemented and the Army is reviewing whether it is fair. Congress does not want the test as it is current constructed to factor into opportunities for advancement, the report said.

U.S. Army Considers Reversing ‘Gender-Neutral Physical Test’ After Majority Of Women Fail To Keep Up With Men: Report | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

The leftist politicians do have a standard....it's called substandard.

 

[Mac-7]

The Histories say the Russians needed them

I can imagine the wild leftwing history you are referring to

dont forget the soviets were the progressives of their day

Several Histories. From several sources. Why did the German Invasion fail? They had superior tactics, weapons, and training. They could have, should have won. The flaw was that they were operating on a number of erroneous assumptions.

First. The numbers of soldiers they were facing. Second the willingness to fight to the end of those soldiers. Third, the ability of the Soviets to endure and continue fighting. Fourth, the women.

There were others. But those assumptions were the death of the greatest Army of the Era. Well trained and equipped soldiers. Competently commanded with revolutionary tactics.

It is interesting to note that even at the end, when Germany was putting schoolboys in uniform and sending them out to fight, they never used the women. They felt as you did and lost a huge opportunity to survive. 12 year old boys were fine. Adult women were not.

But men. Manly men. Those are what we want. Men like the Spartans. Perfect examples of courage and physical fitness. Of course the Spartans had enforced homosexuality. But we will pretend that is not the point.

List of female Heroes of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Guards bomber regiment. They were called the Night Witches. The Germans hated them.

These women flying old planes would start their attack run by cutting the engine off. They glided in silently and only restarted the engine after dropping their bombs. This gave the Germans no warning.

If the engine did not start. They died. If the Germans got them they died. The planes were slow.

There are other examples in history. Since it was not covered in Junior High you never bothered to learn it.

Any job women could do a man could do

but there are many jobs in combat that 99.99% of women cant do as well as a man

 

[2aguy]

The Histories say the Russians needed them

I can imagine the wild leftwing history you are referring to

dont forget the soviets were the progressives of their day

Several Histories. From several sources. Why did the German Invasion fail? They had superior tactics, weapons, and training. They could have, should have won. The flaw was that they were operating on a number of erroneous assumptions.

First. The numbers of soldiers they were facing. Second the willingness to fight to the end of those soldiers. Third, the ability of the Soviets to endure and continue fighting. Fourth, the women.

There were others. But those assumptions were the death of the greatest Army of the Era. Well trained and equipped soldiers. Competently commanded with revolutionary tactics.

It is interesting to note that even at the end, when Germany was putting schoolboys in uniform and sending them out to fight, they never used the women. They felt as you did and lost a huge opportunity to survive. 12 year old boys were fine. Adult women were not.

But men. Manly men. Those are what we want. Men like the Spartans. Perfect examples of courage and physical fitness. Of course the Spartans had enforced homosexuality. But we will pretend that is not the point.

List of female Heroes of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Guards bomber regiment. They were called the Night Witches. The Germans hated them.

These women flying old planes would start their attack run by cutting the engine off. They glided in silently and only restarted the engine after dropping their bombs. This gave the Germans no warning.

If the engine did not start. They died. If the Germans got them they died. The planes were slow.

There are other examples in history. Since it was not covered in Junior High you never bothered to learn it.

No....they lost because the Germans were being pressed in Italy and in Europe.....it divided their forces and they couldn't focus on just the Russians.....the Russians would have lost without for the allies supplying them and drawing heat in the other two areas.

 

[2aguy]

Our enemies conscript women to do whatever they are capable of.

The highest-scoring sniper in the Russian military in WWII was a woman. Dr. Ruth, orphaned in the Holocaust, was trained as a scout and sniper with the Haganah, although she has said that she never killed anyone (she was critically wounded by an exploding shell and put out of action), but that she knows how to throw grenades and shoot. She's less than five feet tall. It's not one's size that counts; it's guts, heart, and dedication. As one female musician wrote, we can get into small places. Nowadays, many warfare activities involve understanding technology, being precise, and pressing buttons, as in flying a fighter jet. Even if a grunt on the ground, women have endurance. Women go through the hardships of pregnancy and childbirth, whereas some men faint even being in the same room with a woman giving birth, even if it giving birth to his own child.

Two WWII stories I've read about: a married couple in the resistance got into a firefight with Nazis. The wife was badly wounded. She told her husband to shoot her so she died and get the hell out there. This was written by her husband, who lived to marry again and have children and was published in Sunday Parade magazine. The second, from the BBC, is the story of three teenage Dutch girls who arranged dates in the forest with nazi officers. These officers never walked out of the forest. I have heard this process referred to as "discrete personnel removal."

It is the size......she was one woman with a rifle...she didn't have to carry heavy equipment for weeks.....and she was in an urban environment......

You can pretend that women can do the same things as men and come up with a very rare example ....the reality is that women cannot keep up with men in combat......

 

[2aguy]

OP, did you serve?

Yep......went through Infantry training at Fort Benning Georgia........I know the training, I know the standards.....there were smaller men who had a difficult time with the road marches carrying standard equipment.....

 

[2aguy]

When we told people that allowing women to be in the military, in particular the combat arms, that it would end up changing the physical fitness standards required to be a soldier, and marine, you told us that wouldn't happen.....

It is about to happen....

Left wingers in our government can't stand the fact that women cannot meet the physical fitness standards....so now they want to change them...

We told you this would happen.....now that they know women can't meet the same standard, how long before they lower the standards?

Our enemies are laughing....

The United States Army is reportedly considering doing away with its new “gender-neutral physical test” after test results showed that the majority of women failed while approximately 90 percent of men passed. Officials are reportedly considering having different evaluation categories for men and women due to the physiological differences between the two.

“Research showed that the Army Combat Fitness Test [ACFT], which is the same for male and female soldiers, was leading to lower results for women with a knock-on effect for promotions,” The Telegraph reported. “An early Pentagon study showed that women were failing the ACFT at a rate of 65 per cent, while only 10 percent of men did.”


A report from last fall found that 54 percent of women failed the test while only 7 percent of men failed it.

The report said that Congress, which is controlled by the Democrats, stopped the new program from being implemented and the Army is reviewing whether it is fair. Congress does not want the test as it is current constructed to factor into opportunities for advancement, the report said.

U.S. Army Considers Reversing ‘Gender-Neutral Physical Test’ After Majority Of Women Fail To Keep Up With Men: Report | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

Lowlife who hasn’t served says what?

Shit head, I served...did you?