Women and minorities represent less than 10% of pilots, yet were factors in four out of eight crashes (50%).

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Source?

Oh so this is the real problem, you have no deductive reasoning skills.

Well maybe just ONE of the problems.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

IM2 can troll with his racist BS like a pro, but he just can't figure out how to get a photo ID.

Must really sting that one of your champions was proven wrong if you all are resorting to these kinds of comments.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

IM2 can troll with his racist BS like a pro, but he just can't figure out how to get a photo ID.

reported

 

[IM2]

Which begs the question, who is filling out all the forms for them to get EBT and Section 8 housing?

More whites get these two things.

 

[IM2]

reported

Funny thing is that I have a drivers license. It's rather pathetic how these racists make these assumptions but never get checked by those who do the checking.

 

[scruffy]

Just out of curiosity, you didn't start with the beginning of the thread, you just zoomed in on my comments?

You might be interested to know that my undergrad degree is in aeronautical science and I was required to read, analyze and write a book report on any NTSB accident report of my choosing. So, my understanding of aviation extends beyond just what I read on the internet, This is the report I selected for my assignment: National Airlines Flight Ends in Escambia Bay

Response 82

"The NTSB’s official accident database and final probable cause reports for each fatal U.S. commercial airline crash since 2000.
Core source for U.S. airline crash causation is:
National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) Final Accident Reports

For each accident, the NTSB publishes:

• Probable cause
• Contributing factors
• Crew identities
• Aircraft data
• Maintenance findings
• CVR summaries
• Docket materials

You can verify directly from:
Home
(Search by flight number in the Aviation Accident Database)

1. Alaska Airlines 261 (2000)
   NTSB Report DCA00MA023 – Probable cause: jackscrew lubrication failure.
2. American Airlines 587 (2001)
   NTSB Report DCA02MA001 – Probable cause: excessive rudder inputs by first officer.
3. Air Midwest 5481 (2003)
   NTSB Report DCA03MA022 – Improper elevator rigging + improper weight & balance.
4. Colgan 9446 (2003)
   NTSB Report NYC03MA183 – Elevator trim cable mis-rigging + checklist failure.
5. Comair 5191 (2006)
   NTSB Report DCA06MA064 – Wrong runway departure.
6. Colgan 3407 (2009)
   NTSB Report DCA09MA027 – Captain’s inappropriate response to stall warning.
7. Asiana 214 (2013)
   NTSB Report DCA13MA120 – Unstable approach, automation mismanagement.
8. Reagan 2025 Mid-Air
   NTSB docket DCA25MA108 – Airspace management + helicopter visual separation issues.

• FAA records
• Official airline press releases
• Major media (Reuters, AP, BBC)
• NTSB public dockets

Importantly:
None of those reports cite gender, race, or DEI policy as causal factors."

I can tell you for sure we won't get any confidence from 9 data points.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Some of us read, but people like DonGlock and Dorian aren't in that number. I mean, you have got to be mentally retarded when you post overt racism, then whine about somebody being racist because they oppose the overt racist mess we see in here. Whites on the right believe they are so entitled that they get to spew racism, and everybody else is just supposed to accept it. That's not how things work in the 21st century.

But let me get back to reading, it is painfully apparent that many MAGATS are just as illiterate in disliking reading just as much as their moron leader. Because if they could read:

The Brennan Center for Justice published a report called “The Truth About Voter Fraud.” This paper dispels the many inaccurate claims made about fraud in our elections. The study found that most claims of voter fraud are just not true. Furthermore, it found that many things that are not fraud are called that for political purposes. Here is what the study says about voter ID:

“The most common example of the harm wrought by imprecise and inflated claims of ‘voter fraud’ is the call for in-person photo identification requirements. Such photo ID laws are effective only in preventing individuals from impersonating other voters at the polls — an occurrence more rare than getting struck by lightning.

By throwing all sorts of election anomalies under the ‘voter fraud’ umbrella, however, advocates for such laws artificially inflate the apparent need for these restrictions and undermine the urgency of other reforms.

Moreover, as with all restrictions on voters, photo identification requirements have a predictable detrimental impact on eligible citizens. Such laws are only potentially worthwhile if they clearly prevent more problems than they create. If policymakers distinguished real voter fraud from the more common election irregularities erroneously labeled as voter fraud, it would become apparent that the limited benefits of laws like photo ID requirements are simply not worth the cost.”

https://www.brennancenter.org/media/179/download/Report_Truth-About-Voter-Fraud.pdf?inline=1

Racist says what?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Funny thing is that I have a drivers license. It's rather pathetic how these racists make these assumptions but never get checked by those who do the checking.

Most of us have a drivers license or some other form of valid ID.

I had a library card since age 7 or 8 approximately. The astounding inability to conduct simple online research by the majority of those commenting in this thread leads me to wonder if they've ever had a library card.

Or ever even visited a library.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

It is you that is comical.
50% of accidents since DEI.

And it is you who have just demonstrated your gullibility if you honestly believe that 50% of accidents in the last 26 years are because of DEI.

I bet you can't even come up with a grammatically correct as well as valid sentence indicating how this is true.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I’m not too impressed by AI cut and paste jobs. Especially when they miss one of the commercial jet crashes specifically mentioned in the OP article.

Would you not prefer an independent and unbiased investigation into the matter instead of someone who simply takes the conclusions drawn by another party, accepts them as true and then attempts to disprove them?

 

[DonGlock26]

What you aren't impressed by doesn't matter one bit. Newsvine has told your punk racist ass that she graduated in aeronautics and you have not. So you are neither qualified to question or challenge her knowledge no matter how much you think that your pasty white skin makes you superior

AI slop is AI slop.

 

[DonGlock26]

Would you not prefer an independent and unbiased investigation into the matter instead of someone who simply takes the conclusions drawn by another party, accepts them as true and then attempts to disprove them?

I'd prefer it, if you simply admitted that you cut and pasted AI slop instead of evading the admission for pages of posts.

 

[DonGlock26]

Oh so this is the real problem, you have no deductive reasoning skills.

Well maybe just ONE of the problems.

No source?

 

[DonGlock26]

Atlas Air was a cargo flight not a passenger flight.

And furthermore, the pilot in command was a white male. Because he was the captain, he's ultimately responsible for what happens with that aircraft, not that I like blaming any of the flight crew when a plane crashes unless they intentionally crashed the plane.

This guy tried although he wasn't successful and only served a few months in jail even though he put the lives of everyone on that flight in jeopardy:

View attachment 1222299

https://abcnews.com/US/former-alaska-airlines-pilot-shut-engines-midflight-avoid/story

Atlas Air was a commercial flight as the OP stated. Have you read the OP?

Have you read the NTSB report?

The NTSB determines that the probable cause of this accident was the inappropriate
response by the first officer as the pilot flying to an inadvertent activation of the go-around mode,
which led to his spatial disorientation and nose-down control inputs that placed the airplane in a
steep descent from which the crew did not recover. Contributing to the accident was the captain’s
failure to adequately monitor the airplane’s flightpath and assume positive control of the airplane
to effectively intervene. Also contributing were systemic deficiencies in the aviation industry’s
selection and performance measurement practices, which failed to address the first officer’s
aptitude-related deficiencies and maladaptive stress response.

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAR2002.pdf

 

[DonGlock26]

What I get is that even though I have explained to you, multiple times now that a commercial flight covers BOTH passenger and cargo flights but ONLY passenger flights carry people (passengers), you're still trying to prove something that can't be proven. Or to put it another way, you're still trying to prove something that the data simply does not support. You & Dan Huff thought you knew what you were talking about but utterly failed in proving what he set out to prove.

Your article was SPECIFIC to PASSENGER flights:
"Three million Americans will BOARD a plane today assuming the pilot earned that seat through merit. They shouldn’t."

No one BOARDS a CARGO flight. Therefore, your inclusion of crash statistics of cargo jets is not PROPER because you're combining data on different types of events.

And this AFTER you've been told repeatedly that the NTSB does not include demographic data as causal because it's not, while you have been shown all of the factors that are causal.

So that only leaves one conclusion.

His study was of commercial aircraft crashes as he stated in the OP. Did you miss that?

 

[DonGlock26]

No one BOARDS a CARGO flight.

You've never heard of jumpseating?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

You've never heard of jumpseating?

Riding jump seat doesn't make them a PASSENGER.

And you still have not demonstrated that you understand the difference between a commercial PASSENGER flight and a commercial CARGO flight.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

No source?

What do you think the results of my research are?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

AI slop is AI slop.

You're being stupid.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I'd prefer it, if you simply admitted that you cut and pasted AI slop instead of evading the admission for pages of posts.

Well instead of constantly complaining about how I obtained my results why don't you enlighten us on how you would obtain a list of

1. U.S.
2. commercial
3. passenger
4. airline flights that resulted in
5. Fatalities
a. onboard OR
b. on the ground
7. that are attributed to pilot error
a. primarily OR
b. in part

I even made it EASY for you to do so by telling you (AGAIN) which flights you have to consider.

You can Google for a list, or use Gemini or one of the other "helpers" to get the list. Because if you are unable to do that then you are in position to question my results.

I've had the misfortune of having had to work with people like you, who can't do my work themselves yet constantly find things to criticize about it that have no bearing whatever on the quality or veracity of the data and reports I turn in.

Why is it so hard for you to believe that Black people and female pilots ARE NOT responsible for many of things you fear?

Also do you have a permit to conceal carry your Glock 26? Because I suspect your understanding of our gun laws is as dismal as your understanding of how commercial aviation crashes are investigated and the difference between passenger vs cargo flights.