Will we torture again?

[JakeStarkey]

Those who approve torture are similar in approving racism; they are simply not moral people.

Don't children play with such children. They may marry one another, and then the grandchildren will not be shining little lights of you. I am so grateful for the decent, goodly parents I had.

 

[Vigilante]

 

[georgephillip]

Apologists speak up:
"'Every charge here is off-base,' former Deputy CIA Director John McLaughlin told NPR on Tuesday, who said that senators had thrown CIA officers 'under the bus.' (They deserve it. The agency farmed out its dirty business to contractors, who earned more than $80 million developing and teaching torture techniques, and experimenting on subjects.)

“'I think the report overemphasizes the degree to which there was something you would call brutality,' said McLaughlin. 'We may have made a few terrorists uncomfortable for a short period of time in order to get information we felt was essential to protecting the United States.'”

"He also told host Audie Cornish that 'Torture is an ethical concept, but it’s also a legal concept. And we went to the Department of Justice at least four times to make sure that what we were doing was not torture in a legal sense, and that it was consistent with the U.S. Constitution.'”

CIA apologists apos predictable pushback on the Senate torture report - LA Times

 

[S.J.]

I guess Jake would rather see this again.

 

[deltex1]

"Can we now say with confidence that our government will not use torture again and that Americans in the future will rise up to prevent it from doing so? In light of the reaction to the Senate Intelligence Committee’s report, I fear that we can’t." Dionne Will we torture again The Salt Lake Tribune

Too many of our citizens do not understand that acting like AQ or the Gestapo or ISIS ISIL whatever makes us no different than AQ or the Gestapo or ISIS ISIL.

You keep posting and we have no choice.

 

[georgephillip]

Time to send these whores to gitmo.

 

[Antares]

Time to send these whores to gitmo.

Punk we'll send you to gitmo.

 

[georgephillip]

Punk we'll send you to gitmo.

Scary...

No mint?

 

[deltex1]

"Can we now say with confidence that our government will not use torture again and that Americans in the future will rise up to prevent it from doing so? In light of the reaction to the Senate Intelligence Committee’s report, I fear that we can’t." Dionne Will we torture again The Salt Lake Tribune

Too many of our citizens do not understand that acting like AQ or the Gestapo or ISIS ISIL whatever makes us no different than AQ or the Gestapo or ISIS ISIL.

When the situation demands extreme measures, let us pray the pussies are not in charge.

 

[Antares]

Punk we'll send you to gitmo.

Scary...

No mint?

No mint, maybe your family will miss you?


She'd remarry quickly, you aren't worth much.

 

[Pop23]

"Can we now say with confidence that our government will not use torture again and that Americans in the future will rise up to prevent it from doing so? In light of the reaction to the Senate Intelligence Committee’s report, I fear that we can’t." Dionne Will we torture again The Salt Lake Tribune

Too many of our citizens do not understand that acting like AQ or the Gestapo or ISIS ISIL whatever makes us no different than AQ or the Gestapo or ISIS ISIL.

Can you say with confidence that the folks you want to protect will:

Stop promoting child rape?

Stop beheading civilians?

Stop torturing civilians?

Get those answers first Bozo

 

[georgephillip]

Can you say with confidence that the folks you want to protect will:

Stop promoting child rape?

Stop beheading civilians?

Stop torturing civilians?

Which of the CIA torture victims were convicted of any of the crimes you mentioned, or any others, for that matter?

 

[Neil N. Blowme]

Ignore the lying leftist trash.

 

[Kondor3]

Those who approve torture are similar in approving racism; they are simply not moral people...

Let's get this straight...

Hypothetical scenario:

You're the King of the United States.

A terrorist has planted a suitcase-sized nuclear bomb in the City of Chicago.

The nuke is known to be on a timer with 12 hours left until detonation.

We captured the terrorist two days ago.

All of the 'legal' interrogation techniques that we've tried so far have not forced the terrorist to tell us where in the City of Chicago that the nuke has been planted.

The only shot we have at getting to the bomb in-time is to try torture of one kind or another... starting slow and becoming progressively more brutal.

The chief of the interrogation team kicks the request upstairs through his chain-of-command, requesting permission to use torture.

The buck stops on your desk - the top of the interrogator's chain-of-command comes to you for that permission.

Do you give it?

Or do you let the City of Chicago vaporize, along with several million Americans?

Do you give your permission to use torture at that point, in such a scenario?

Yes or No, please.

If you dare.

Nothing fancy... no protesting that such a thing would never happen... no answering a question with a question.

Yes or No, please.

Would you authorize the use of torture under such circumstances?

 

[Neil N. Blowme]

Nothing we did is torture.

 

[georgephillip]

Punk we'll send you to gitmo.

Scary...

No mint?

No mint, maybe your family will miss you?


She'd remarry quickly, you aren't worth much.

How much are you worth?

 

[deltex1]

Torture is reading jakes posts.

 

[georgephillip]

"The report adds nauseating new details to the already substantial record of the CIA’s enthusiastic descent into savagery after capturing its first terror suspects, post-9/11.

"There’s the image of the CIA’s first fully documented torture victim, Abu Zubaydah, becoming 'completely unresponsive, with bubbles rising through his open, full mouth' after a session of repeated near-drownings on the waterboard.

"There are descriptions of sleep deprivation that 'involved keeping detainees awake for up to 180 hours, usually standing or in stress positions, at times with their hands shackled above their heads.'

"The report identifies 26 detainees, out of the CIA’s 119 in total, who the agency itself determined should never have been held at all.

"That unfortunate group includes 'Abu Hudhaifa, who was subjected to ice water baths and 66 hours of standing sleep deprivation before being released because the CIA discovered he was likely not the person he was believed to be,' and 'Nazir Ali, an ‘intellectually challenged’ individual whose taped crying was used as leverage against his family member.'”

For CIA Truth about Torture Was an Existential Threat - The Intercept

 

[Pop23]

Can you say with confidence that the folks you want to protect will:

Stop promoting child rape?

Stop beheading civilians?

Stop torturing civilians?

Which of the CIA torture victims were convicted of any of the crimes you mentioned, or any others, for that matter?

Oh, got it, so the German soldiers in WWII were murdered cause they never physically killed the Jews.

You slow or what?

 

[georgephillip]

Oh, got it, so the German soldiers in WWII were murdered cause they never physically killed the Jews.

You slow or what?

Ever heard of Nuremberg?